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Re: Farmaajo is a repeat of Abdiqasim

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The Ilkoyar have no shame. They boast about listing after married women which is not surprising as MSB used to do this to his rivals wives.
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Re: Farmaajo is a repeat of Abdiqasim

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AbdiWahab252 wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:01 pm The Ilkoyar have no shame. They boast about listing after married women which is not surprising as MSB used to do this to his rivals wives.
Abdiwahab, look back on my views about Culusoow, the Cayr economics intellectual. I can't stand the guy's views (every single article I read by him has been negative from Abdullahi Yusuf to Sheekh Sharif to Hassan Sheekh to Farmaajo), but I absolutely admire the guy. One of my great uncles went to college with him in dibadaha and he said Culusoow was the smartest guy in their group. He was shy and not the first to talk, and my great uncle and the other two Marehan guys in the 7 person group always bandied around Culusoow and protected him And pushed him to speak for all of the scholarship students. The guy is a frigging genius.

I relay that to say HG iyo inaga walaalo baan nahay. Bad politics aside as a result of so many unfortunate steps, even the story of Abdiqaasim is a reflection of how close we are.

100% say Abdiqaasim is the son of Salaad Boy (which he is officially), look at Sahal's ridiculous question maxuu Cabdiqaasim Mareexaan usoo dhawaystay.

When Salaad Boy divorced Cabdiqaasim's mom (who was Cayr), BOTH of his parents got married to Marehan.

When the divorce happened, Cabdiqaasim's mother was married by Xaaji Xaashi Jaamac Geri (reer Nuur diini) as his 3rd wife and as a result of the whole "who does the baby belong to" controversy settled by the Cumar Maxmuud/Cabdi Ciise guy, Mareexaan gave a reer Diini girl to Salaad Boy (she was reer Dalal Diini like Farmaajo).

So Sahal's question is ridiculous when you realize Marehan were an intricate part of Cabdiqaasim's life both from the later children of his Cayr dad (their mom was Marehan) and the later children of his Cayr mom (their dad was Marehan).

When rer Dalal killed Salaad Boy, Cabdiqaasim was adopted by his mother's husband (Xaaji Xaashi Jaamac) who was the preeminent leader of Marehan. Forget that he may have been Cabdiqaasim's dad, but at that point he was legally his step-father and according to all Marehan Xaaji Xaashi was extremely fond of Cabdiqaasim. When Siad Barre wanted to marry Dalaayad, Cabdiqaasim was sitting to the right of Xaaji Xaashi as his step son (and Dalaayad's official 'step brother"). So Cabdiqaasim was a very intimate family relation if Siyaad Barre through his one time step-sister Dalaayad (and one time unofficial real sister :mrgreen: )

So my tongue in cheek statement about Dalaayad being Cabdiqaasim's sister aside, she was STILL his sister officially ("step sister"), because Dalayaad's father (Xaaji Xaashi) married Cabdiqaasim's mother so Dalaayad's youngest half-brothers were the half-brothers of Cabdiqaasim.

All things aside, Cabdiqaasim and Siyaad Barre were still step-brothers in law officially through Dalaayad Xaaji Xaashi.

Look at me personally, I told you before I am directly closer to Caydiid than you are. My mom's mom has reer Cilmi Wardheere as her reer abti. If you know Habar Gidir well you can trace my extended family well but my mom's cousins are the children of Dheh Dhoore Cadde (Saleebaan/reer Faatax) who helped convince my great grandma become the wife of Caydiid's grandfather.

I have met reer Cilmi Wardheere who treat me better than anyone has ever treated me in my entire life yet, as both Marehan and Habar Gidir know, my family was on the front lines of leading wars against Habar Gidir and reer Cilmi Wardheere was on the front lines of leading wars against Marehan in the civil war. Do you know how many HG lives my own uncle and dad saved as well as abtiyaal releasing them from captivity in 1991 and then telling them to leave and get out only to have to them be captured again fighting us? You have no idea wallahi. My abtiyaal reer Cilmi Wardheere baa reer abti u ahaa and Saleebaan/rer Faatax baa xidid u ahaa, and my dad and uncles Cayr/reer Ayaanle baa reer ayeeyo u ahaa.

Anyways I just rehash that to say Cabdiqaasim waa wiilkayaga :mrgreen:
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Re: Farmaajo is a repeat of Abdiqasim

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Basically my point is Marehan in general aad bay u jecel yihiin Cabdiqaasim and they always have loved him, and Cabdiqaasim, despite the saga surrounding his birth, has always felt that love and even remorse from Marehan (remorse for Marehan committing unjust killing of Salaad Boy) which is why any xumaan from Cabdiqaasim may have been extinguished long time ago---to answer Sahal's stupid and tone deaf question.
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It was an open secret that Caydiid was quite fond of the Marehan and spent vast resources ensuring that those captured were not harmed and given safe passage. Yet he is demonized by those he spared. If Caydiid was not in charge and it were more right wing elements, the war would have taken a different turn.

My Darood relatives were totally out of control in 1991. We nearly warred with our fellow HAG to protect them only for them to start celebrating the Darood comeback later in the year. They were asking for us to give them the names and addresses of our kin so that they could save them when MSB returned. We weren’t sure if they would save or kill them based on how much emotion they displayed. They were militant Jebertists. They felt crushed when they heard of the USCs victory that ended the possibility of the regimes return. We got them out of Xamar. To this date they are never in contact except when it involves them having to use our connections related to a properties they left behind or when they come to Xamar to seek medical care.
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Re: Farmaajo is a repeat of Abdiqasim

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AbdiWahab252 wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:14 pm Voltage

It was an open secret that Caydiid was quite fond of the Marehan and spent vast resources ensuring that those captured were not harmed and given safe passage. Yet he is demonized by those he spared. If Caydiid was not in charge and it were more right wing elements, the war would have taken a different turn.

My Darood relatives were totally out of control in 1991. We nearly warred with our fellow HAG to protect them only for them to start celebrating the Darood comeback later in the year. They were asking for us to give them the names and addresses of our kin so that they could save them when MSB returned. We weren’t sure if they would save or kill them based on how much emotion they displayed. They were militant Jebertists. They felt crushed when they heard of the USCs victory that ended the possibility of the regimes return. We got them out of Xamar. To this date they are never in contact except when it involves them having to use our connections related to a properties they left behind or when they come to Xamar to seek medical care.

My first cousin on my Dad’s side was gunned down by Caydiids guys in 1991 in Xamar. He has zero to do with politics. My maternal uncle AUN killed defending Baardheere 91. Bottom line? Allah chooses everyone’s time to die and today 2019 is no time for past grievances, so let’s move on and build a real nation. That being said I won’t let you come here with your revisionist romanticizations. USC militia was a drugged militia with arms from mustaxiil, Ethiopia and narcotics. I severely doubt Ethiopian officers in Mustaxiil were giving lessons on how Officers should deal with the civilian population.
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Re: Farmaajo is a repeat of Abdiqasim

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Murax

Don’t try to rehabilitate a mad mans regime that destroyed a nation. The Barre regime committed widespread human rights abuses against civilians including innocent relatives of mine before we were even USC. SNA regulars had fire squads that killed 3 of my 6 uncles along with 60 Sacad men in one village in one afternoon in 1989. We had no choice but to support the USC after that.

You just want to start the narrative at the point when the civil war was brought home to regime loyalists
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We all know how the akhdam behave with a lick of power. This is why I am frustrated with Somaliland for just sitting here and even more frustrated with hawiye who act like a gashanti when they get power.
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Re: Farmaajo is a repeat of Abdiqasim

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Murax and Abdiwahab,

Everybody has their narrative. For example, even before getting to Murax's post, I cracked a wry smile at AW's blatant USC romanticism. In an earlier time I would have been completely shocked by what I would have viewed as his "chutzpah" having personal and familial testimonies about USC conduct, but that was the narrow minded me. I understand and accept now that AW is entitled to his narrative which can be just as factual as anyone else's. There are a hundred different realities for a hundred different people.

In general, what's dead has died and what's past has gone. Let's move on and think of the future.
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this thread has answered alot of my questions on Abdisqasims connections with Mx. so the man who adopted him is haji hashi the father of dalaayad? what i still dont believe is that he was his father. haji hashi married her out of reconciliation (after her husband was killed by another mx for colaad reasons) since he was the most wealthy mx.

wallah mx waa genuine clan dad ee HG iyo eelaay ku dhex talaaleen aa u soo baxey
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Re: Farmaajo is a repeat of Abdiqasim

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sahal80 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:49 am this thread has answered alot of my questions on Abdisqasims connections with Mx. so the man who adopted him is haji hashi the father of dalaayad? what i still dont believe is that he was his father. haji hashi married her out of reconciliation (after her husband was killed by another mx for colaad reasons) since he was the most wealthy mx.

wallah mx waa genuine clan dad ee HG iyo eelaay ku dhex talaaleen aa u soo baxey
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Are you talking about Lafta Gareen? Aflagaadada jooji sxb :lol: Ku lahaa dad ku talaaleen. Mareexaan don't "plan" anything. Gaal dil gartiisana sii so Sahal give us our gar, Marehan is known for being great xidid :lol:

As for Cabdiqaasim, yup sxb which is why I wish you would have asked the question instead of basically implying Cabdiqaasim waa caaq for being close to Marehan. One little jiri killed Salaad Boy, but what did Marehan do as a result? Especially when you realize Salaad Boy was killed IN Caabudwaaq, IN the middle of Mareexaan...the shame and embarrassment Marehan felt was compounded. Marehan responded by giving mag worth 10 men and then the preeminent leader of the clan adopted Salaad Boy's son, bringing him to his mother, and taking the responsibility to raise and educate him. Who can say Xaaji Xaashi failed in his responsibility? And Xaaji Xaashi wasn't just important to Marehan, but one of the most important men in Somalia Italiana; a man with name, presitige, and maal, among the first batch of Consiglios with Addan Cadde anx Muuse Boqor, on first name basis with the Italian UN Administrator, a governor, and being mentioned so many times in news papers in 1951 of all times.

And Xaaji Xaashi long after his death was still opening doors for Cabdiqaasim when Siad Barre came to power in 1969, Cabdiqaasim was the longest, closest, and safest minister. Siad Barre considered Cabdiqaasim basically amaano from his father-in-law.

So sure Salad Boy was killed by one jiri who happened to be Marehan, but Cabdiqaasim's entire life as a result of that was made possible by Marehan; from his childhood to isagoo oday ah, Marehan was making amends to him for the unjust killing of Salaad Boy.

So why would Cabdiqaasim have any hate for Marehan when Marehan AS A CLAN has shown nothing but libin (chivalry) in how they amended the actions of the rogue jiri who did that unjust action?
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Re: Farmaajo is a repeat of Abdiqasim

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Voltage wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:07 pm
sahal80 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:49 am this thread has answered alot of my questions on Abdisqasims connections with Mx. so the man who adopted him is haji hashi the father of dalaayad? what i still dont believe is that he was his father. haji hashi married her out of reconciliation (after her husband was killed by another mx for colaad reasons) since he was the most wealthy mx.

wallah mx waa genuine clan dad ee HG iyo eelaay ku dhex talaaleen aa u soo baxey
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Are you talking about Lafta Gareen? Aflagaadada jooji sxb :lol: Ku lahaa dad ku talaaleen. Mareexaan don't "plan" anything. Gaal dil gartiisana sii so Sahal give us our gar, Marehan is known for being great xidid :lol:

As for Cabdiqaasim, yup sxb which is why I wish you would have asked the question instead of basically implying Cabdiqaasim waa caaq for being close to Marehan. One little jiri killed Salaad Boy, but what did Marehan do as a result? Especially when you realize Salaad Boy was killed IN Caabudwaaq, IN the middle of Mareexaan...the shame and embarrassment Marehan felt was compounded. Marehan responded by giving mag worth 10 men and then the preeminent leader of the clan adopted Salaad Boy's son, bringing him to his mother, and taking the responsibility to raise and educate him. Who can say Xaaji Xaashi failed in his responsibility? And Xaaji Xaashi wasn't just important to Marehan, but one of the most important men in Somalia Italiana; a man with name, presitige, and maal, among the first batch of Consiglios with Addan Cadde anx Muuse Boqor, on first name basis with the Italian UN Administrator, a governor, and being mentioned so many times in news papers in 1951 of all times.

And Xaaji Xaashi long after his death was still opening doors for Cabdiqaasim when Siad Barre came to power in 1969, Cabdiqaasim was the longest, closest, and safest minister. Siad Barre considered Cabdiqaasim basically amaano from his father-in-law.

So sure Salad Boy was killed by one jiri who happened to be Marehan, but Cabdiqaasim's entire life as a result of that was made possible by Marehan; from his childhood to isagoo oday ah, Marehan was making amends to him for the unjust killing of Salaad Boy.

So why would Cabdiqaasim have any hate for Marehan when Marehan AS A CLAN has shown nothing but libin (chivalry) in how they amended the actions of the rogue jiri who did that unjust action?
lol sxb i knew abdiqasim story for atleast 4 years even my version was closer to the truth you mxs guys each had a version like Eegalhawk talking about Salaad boy divorcing his wife and then marrrying a mx and finally you made some details about haji hsshi. in this way it goes along what i heard of a mx adopting him out of reconciliation and that he grew up with his mx half brothers and sisters and that he was made a minister as sime kind of moral componsation and i heard siyaad barre saying this to him(the ceyr guy agrees with me here) but what i didnt know was the man who adopted him was xaaji xaashi the father of dalaayd xaaji xaashi Wow! this meas it was she who appointed him as step brother so know i see walaalaha was not really a ceyr and mx coalition but abdiqasim being both their sons!

i heard abdiqasim organized a meeting in a house in guriceel between mx and ceyr to contribute troops for recapturing kismaayo.
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Re: Farmaajo is a repeat of Abdiqasim

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sahal80 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:43 pm
Voltage wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:07 pm
sahal80 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:49 am this thread has answered alot of my questions on Abdisqasims connections with Mx. so the man who adopted him is haji hashi the father of dalaayad? what i still dont believe is that he was his father. haji hashi married her out of reconciliation (after her husband was killed by another mx for colaad reasons) since he was the most wealthy mx.

wallah mx waa genuine clan dad ee HG iyo eelaay ku dhex talaaleen aa u soo baxey
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Are you talking about Lafta Gareen? Aflagaadada jooji sxb :lol: Ku lahaa dad ku talaaleen. Mareexaan don't "plan" anything. Gaal dil gartiisana sii so Sahal give us our gar, Marehan is known for being great xidid :lol:

As for Cabdiqaasim, yup sxb which is why I wish you would have asked the question instead of basically implying Cabdiqaasim waa caaq for being close to Marehan. One little jiri killed Salaad Boy, but what did Marehan do as a result? Especially when you realize Salaad Boy was killed IN Caabudwaaq, IN the middle of Mareexaan...the shame and embarrassment Marehan felt was compounded. Marehan responded by giving mag worth 10 men and then the preeminent leader of the clan adopted Salaad Boy's son, bringing him to his mother, and taking the responsibility to raise and educate him. Who can say Xaaji Xaashi failed in his responsibility? And Xaaji Xaashi wasn't just important to Marehan, but one of the most important men in Somalia Italiana; a man with name, presitige, and maal, among the first batch of Consiglios with Addan Cadde anx Muuse Boqor, on first name basis with the Italian UN Administrator, a governor, and being mentioned so many times in news papers in 1951 of all times.

And Xaaji Xaashi long after his death was still opening doors for Cabdiqaasim when Siad Barre came to power in 1969, Cabdiqaasim was the longest, closest, and safest minister. Siad Barre considered Cabdiqaasim basically amaano from his father-in-law.

So sure Salad Boy was killed by one jiri who happened to be Marehan, but Cabdiqaasim's entire life as a result of that was made possible by Marehan; from his childhood to isagoo oday ah, Marehan was making amends to him for the unjust killing of Salaad Boy.

So why would Cabdiqaasim have any hate for Marehan when Marehan AS A CLAN has shown nothing but libin (chivalry) in how they amended the actions of the rogue jiri who did that unjust action?
lol sxb i knew abdiqasim story for atleast 4 years even my version was closer to the truth you mxs guys each had a version like Eegalhawk talking about Salaad boy divorcing his wife and then marrrying a mx and finally you made some details about haji hsshi. in this way it goes along what i heard of a mx adopting him out of reconciliation and that he grew up with his mx half brothers and sisters and that he was made a minister as sime kind of moral componsation and i heard siyaad barre saying this to him(the ceyr guy agrees with me here) but what i didnt know was the man who adopted him was xaaji xaashi the father of dalaayd xaaji xaashi Wow! this meas it was she who appointed him as step brother so know i see walaalaha was not really a ceyr and mx coalition but abdiqasim being both their sons!

i heard abdiqasim organized a meeting in a house in guriceel between mx and ceyr to contribute troops for recapturing kismaayo.
sahal80 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:43 pmlol sxb i knew abdiqasim story for atleast 4 years even my version was closer to the truth you mxs guys each had a version like Eegalhawk talking about Salaad boy divorcing his wife and then marrrying a mx and finally you made some details about haji hsshi. in this way it goes along what i heard of a mx adopting him out of reconciliation and that he grew up with his mx half brothers and sisters and that he was made a minister as sime kind of moral componsation and i heard siyaad barre saying this to him(the ceyr guy agrees with me here) but what i didnt know was the man who adopted him was xaaji xaashi the father of dalaayd xaaji xaashi Wow! this meas it was she who appointed him as step brother so know i see walaalaha was not really a ceyr and mx coalition but abdiqasim being both their sons!

i heard abdiqasim organized a meeting in a house in guriceel between mx and ceyr to contribute troops for recapturing kismaayo.
Laa ilaaha ilaha laah, do you not know shit about Somalia? :lol: Maybe I shouldn't use the word "shit," but perhaps introduce you to facts you may not be aware of like the facts about Cabdiqaasim's adoption that took you from insinuating he was a caaq for being friendly towards Marehan to recognizing that Cabdiqaasim IS a son of both Marehan and Cayr (I am not talking about the rumor, but through adoption, investment, extended family Marehan always considered Abdiqaasim close).

Now let me introduce you to JVA.

First of all do not lie about the mansab and character of President Cabdiqaasim. Ku lahaa guri ku yaalo Guriceel...when did he do this and how and who participated? What a joke! That cheap tabloid is more expected from a resentful Majeerteen than you. Cabdiqaasim never for a day participated in the civil war. The man left the country and did not come back until Carta in 2001. He wasn't even welcome by HG who all proclaimed Caydiid their ayatollah and neither did Cabdiqaasim even want to participate in that. Like Eagle, said, may Allah give him a long life. The man has the character of Gold.

The founding of the JVA in 1998 has to do with 3 THINGS that all colesced at the same time.

1. The formation of Puntland in 1998 and Abdullahi Yusuf's sixir whisperings that finally broke the relationship between Morgan and Marehan (SNF)

2. The Ethiopian invasion of Gedo in 1996 and then their pull out in late 1997, started the worst fighting between SNF and Al Itihad for control of Gedo. Keep in mind SNF was Marehan and al Itihad was primarily Marehan...it was the worst inter-clan fighting you could imagine which totally preoccupied and decimated Marehans.

3. The Banana War in Lower Shabelle was starting (Abdiwahab can tell you more about ) which was a proxy war between Cayr and Sacad for control of Shabeelada Hoose. You probably only woke up to Indhacade and Cayr controlling Shabeelada Hoose, but you don't know since1993 Sacad and SNA (pre-SRRC) was in control of Marka and Lower Shabelle with Hussein Caydiid, Caato, and Cabdirashiid Ilqeyte controlling the banana trade for Sacad

SO TO DO WITH KISMAAYO

Ever since Morgan rode south from Baardheere to remove Cumar Jees from Kismaayo, Marehan was the strongest backbone of his position in southern Somalia.

Again, going by the xidid thing, Morgan was our son to us. We never even viewed him as a different clan. Morgan was also a member of the Marehan SNF and never for a day label himself Majeerteen SSDF.

Since the day Morgan took over Kismaayo, Abdullahi Wagad (Marehan) was Governer of Kismaayo and Col Afgabdeedle (Marehan) was his army commander.

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Ok this will take me ages, but BASICALLY;

When 1998 turned;

1. Marehan were in their worst inter-clan war (brutal SNF vs. Al Itihad war in Gedo immediately following the pull out from Ethiopia where Al Itihad blamed SNF for inviting them). No Marehan likes to remember this time. It was wiil iyo adeer shooting at each other. If you think Shabaab is horrible, this was the precursor to Shabaab.

2. Marehan which had been a backbone of Morgan
became preoccupied and depleted the same time Puntland was formed expressly as Abdullahi Yusuf's gorgorton for moving towards national position. With his Majerten cousin Morgan officially in control in Kismaayo (though Morgan's main support base for being in power in the south for years was not due to Majerten but Marehan ), Abdullahi Yusuf made Morgan become Majerten again especially with a weak and delepeted Marehan that in his estimation was no longer relevant to him (oh did Morgan regret this decision)

3. Morgan started removing Marehan from all their posts like Governor and Port Commisisoner in Kismaayo until finally all the Marehan militias seeing what was up vacated the city in February 1998 under the orders of Col Afgabdeedle. They all camped in Madhamaato near Kismaayo and sent word to Marehan, IT WAS TIME TO REMOVE MORGAN.

3. While that was going on in Darodia, the HG started the banana wars where Cayr ( who have always been the footsoldiers and most of the HG dead) finally put their foot down to realize it was Sacad that was making all the money. AT THAT TIME no one knew Cayr could defeat Sacad.

4. Barre Hiiraale's UNCLE ALI SHIRE (not the younger Cabdi Shire the Ambassador that everyone seems to now know) but CALI SHIRE (Allah yarxama) who was a rich businessman and starting from the 1960's was an MP and well connected guy, decided that Marehan while occupied between SNF and Al Itihad war HAD TO SIGN A PEACE TREATY with Hussein Caydiid and SNA where they could help each other effectively control the Lower Shabelle ( with Sacad defeating Cayr) and Lower Jubba (Marehan defeating Kablalax).

So you see Sahal, the starting of JVA WAS NOT EVEN BETWEEN MAREHAN AND CAYR BUT MAREHAN AND SACAD.

5. Things changed in the summer of 1998 when Puntland was officially declared and the Ethiopians saw a chance to install their leadership from northeast to south. The Ethiopians started the talks that woukd bring together the pro-Ethiopia SNA of Hussein Caydiid, RRA (except Xaabsade) and the new Puntland of Cabdullahi Yusuf.
6. The alarmed Marehan then started secret talks with the Cayr businessman DAYLAAF, who bitterly wanted to replace the Sacad businessman ILQEYTE for control of the banana farms in Lower Shabelle. Daylaaf brought in XASSAN QALAAD as his representative and AW-DHIMBIL co-signed as the political representative signifying through him Cayr were aware.

THAT'S HOW THE ALLIANCE BETWEEN MAREHAN AND SACAD BECAME MAREHAN AND CAYR.

7. By the end of 1999, for the the first time both Marehan and Cayr who lost the most lives in the Hawiye v Darod wars were officially in control over Marka and Kismaayo, having removed the two guys (Hussein Caydiid and Morgan) who used them to get what they want.

8. Cabdiqaasim would became president years later at which time the JVA would officially form so Marehan could eat with the Cayr who now officially just happened to find themselves President (Cabdiqaasim).

So you see Sahal, Cabdiqaasim had nothing to do with the JVA or civil war maneuverings. Marehan had to defend themselves so I am not embarrassed to relay our civil war actions, but as an individual Cabdiqaasim's mansab and character would never allow him to participate in what you insulted him with. Ku lahaa guri buu heblaayo iskugu yeeray.
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Re: Farmaajo is a repeat of Abdiqasim

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These are some old news articles mostly alluding to Col Afgabdeedle after he moved out of Kismaayo in 1998 after Abdullahi Yusuf during the formation of Puntland got to Morgan who started acting funny. Col Afgabdeedle who was the head of the SNF militias in Kismaayo since 1993 sent word out we needed to remove Morgan in 1998 which Cali Shire responded to. Ilahaay ha u naxariisto Col Afgabdeedle (Marehan/reer Hersi). :up:



November 5, 1998

Somalia: SNF militia shell Kismaayo, advance towards town's airport
The two warring sides in the Kismaayo [southern Somalia] fighting, which has been going on for the past few days, yesterday clashed on the outskirts of the town and engaged in a gun battle before retreating to their positions. Latest reports indicate that no heavy fighting took place in Kismaayo despite this brief clash.In another development, SNF [Somali National Front, a Marehan clan militia] forces currently based at a place called Madhamaato [on the outskirts of Kismaayo]

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November 9, 1998

Somalia: Up to 65 said killed in Kismaayo fighting
Fierce fighting is reported once again to have taken place yesterday between the militias of the SNF [Somali National Front] and the SPM [Somali Patriotic Movement] led by Gen [Muhammad Sa'id Hirsi] Morgan.It is reported that the fighting was started by Gen Morgan's group to push back the SNF militia, who are closing in on Kismaayo [southern Somalia]. There were exchanges of heavy artillery fire, which continued for hours.An SNF spokesman said they had entered...

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July 9, 1998

Somalia: SNF faction discusses security in Gedo, relations with Al-Itihad group
Dr Museh Shaykh Umar Amin, chairman of the SNF [Somali National Front] intellectuals, has released a press statement following a meeting with his executive committee at the organization's Mogadishu office early this week.The SNF meeting headed by Dr Museh Shaykh discussed security and living conditions in Gedo region [southwest Somalia] and a meeting scheduled to take place between Al-Itihad and the SNF on 15th July. In conclusion the meeting passed the following

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July 10, 1998

Somalia: Pakistani delegation tours Islamist militia group's bases
Ittihad [an Islamic militia group] has hosted a party in Gedo region [southwestern Somalia] for a visiting Pakistani delegation led by Shaykh Umar Mowlana Khan. The delegation yesterday toured Buulo Haawo town.The delegation is in the country to tour the Ittihad militia bases in the region. Reports from Buulo Hawo say the delegation was welcomed by Shaykh Isma'il Haji Mustafa, a prominent member of the Ittihad group.The delegation will also visit Luuq, Baardheere and Buur...

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Poor Ogaadeen who tried to defend Morgan in 1998, Marehan just ran them over :-O

November 1, 1998

Somalia: Somali National Front militia advances towards Kismaayo
SNF [Somali National Front] militia captured Buulagaduud village [southern Somalia] yesterday. The SNF militia, which had for some time been preparing to launch a major attack on Kismaayo town [southern Somalia], overran an Ogaden clan militia base meant to defend Kismaayo from attacks.The Marehan clan militia [the SNF] were prepared to launch a decisive offensive on Kismaayo, which is controlled by Gen Muhammad Sa'id Hirsi, alias Morgan. The militia, which in the past had

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Re: Farmaajo is a repeat of Abdiqasim

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These are screen images from an old video tape, so quality is low. I am not going to upload the video due some of the content. The video was recorded in Goobweyn, 1998

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