sahal80 wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:18 am
Murax wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:10 am
I don’t blame Xassan Sh for doing what he did. I was not a fan of Xassan Sh. A great PM like Cabdiwali Sh, he interfered in his job. But you can’t say he was qabiliste in the slightest. He told Mudulood stand down on HiirShabeele, so we don’t look like we’re empowering ourselves using shaati dawlad.
Farmaajo, similarly pushed Maxamed Oomar (Cawlyahan) for Jubbaland and told MX same thing.
kkk you are comparing Hirshabelle with the Kablalah state of JL that is also a kenyan buffer zone? i dont think in my life i will see mx leading JL.
Murax, no one needs naflacaari based on self aggrandising do you have documents to support your jealousy driven Theory?
in JL, FGS was backing mx in 2013 against a second pro kablalah state they were saying back then "we dont wanna another PL in the south" until hassan sh neutralized JL like madoobe getting appointed as a Governor untill....and then when they became allies he threw Barre Hiiraale under the bus
you are under OG for 13 years!
Mx were also badly divided and disorganized i remember when IGAD sent a fact finding delegation to Kismaayo they met southren mxs like awlibaax as one of saxiixayaasha JL this was the biggest factor in legitimizing Madoobe
now lets talk about Hirshabelle
Damjadiid Hiraabs wanted a second Hiraab State similar to the the second Kablalah State in JL they gave us fake capital like buaale wich is buuloburde. its librated but back then was completely under blockade now you have macawisleey who freed the dirt roads and countryside between jalalaqsi and buulaburde and the dirt road that connects it to maxaas. secondly the place that was holding shirka was jowhar so they wanted the admin to stay in Jowhar meantime they paid misleading visits to buuloburde talking about waiting the state house to be build in there. this tells you how they were serious. odowaa in buuloburde
https://goobjoog.com/faah-faahin-wafdi- ... e-hiiraan/
for Hirshabelle president they had 30 jir 30 million heesta the owner of hotel elite he is harti abgaal. he graduated from farah abdulkadir schools and al islah owned mogadishu university. no Hawadle leadership and real capital and they never let us pick baladweyne as the capital what the f-king non tribilism your talking about? wallahi my head exploides when i remember Hassan shs injustice against Hawadle.
all this qashinkaa la gu daray and we defeated Hiraab and damjadeed and Hassan sheekh for our unity. let alone hawadle we had control on yaryarka for a month for not attend shirka jowhar until the corrupt hassan sh gave them every thing at our expense like most parliament seats biggest injust committed by hassan sh against hawadle giving gaaljecel and gugundabe double of the hawadle seats what nin tribalism your talking about? he gave hiraab 27(Mudulood and HG) seats gaaljecel 12, gugundhabe 11 and hawadle 14!
we control bc we pay their wages but waa la duminaa dhawaan in hirshabellada cusib sida lafta gareen u dumiyay wixii sakiin iyo damjadiid dhiseen!!
he made their guys generals and safiiro gave their odayaal nice cars
YEYmT he was told " they dont represent Hiiraan until Hawadle is part of it"
here the mandate was given to IGAD who said the president is for Hawadle and the capital is Jowhar(Abgaal) this is the gentleman's agreement we are using NOW
former UN envoy revealing how hassan sh couldnt get away with his Hiraab state shit. he is just not right about the war on the galbeed side at that time wich was between westland-jijeele- and gaaljecel. we believe Damjadiid was behind it to give Bakadweybe vad image in favour of Jowhar. look now no wars in howlwadaag for 3.5 years but under hassan sh there were 4 wars between them and they all coincided with Hirshabelle formation. how thdy got started? some Gaaljecel officials appointed by odowaa was behind it. Hawadle supported jijeele resistance even under westland to keep al shabaab away and these gaaljecel guys fought the presence of non "official militias" in howlwadaag wich shows their connections with Damjadeed
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Rxm ... le&f=false
very true
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.caas ... eelle/amp/
IGAD Negotions with Hawadle(Hiiraan)
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.caas ... -igad/amp/
wax cad hadaadan saas u hayn GTFO some IGAD supported Madoobe for you not biycitting the shir! blame yourself!
your still extremely wrong. Watch who is with Sheikh Shariif tomorrow in Jowhar. 
