Dalalos
Now with your explanation I understand it better if what happened. Garaad or Ugaas are traditional elder titles that are pretty much the same but in your case obviously those who took the title had to now use the title Ugaas to differentiate. Also it did not happen in Abgaal because as I said the first Ugaas was the grand child of the Imaam at that time and was crowned by him this Ugaas title always jumps from Man to his First born grandson. Plus the current Ugaas is lucky he has not been crowned because one he is crowned, that means he will be locked in a house in Ceel Corfiid, married to four women and each time the wife reaches an age of not bearing children, she must vacate the position. Basically the Ugaas will have his entire life run by others while not having a single input in being able to make decisions for himself personally but his decisions for the clan can not be questioned LOL
The injustice within Farah Ugaas
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Re: The injustice within Farah Ugaas
Yup you got it, the traditional head changed from one group to a cousin group, the title makes no difference, they just happened to have a tradition of using the term Ugaas as leader already.Osob101 wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:28 pm Dalalos
Now with your explanation I understand it better if what happened. Garaad or Ugaas are traditional elder titles that are pretty much the same but in your case obviously those who took the title had to now use the title Ugaas to differentiate. Also it did not happen in Abgaal because as I said the first Ugaas was the grand child of the Imaam at that time and was crowned by him this Ugaas title always jumps from Man to his First born grandson. Plus the current Ugaas is lucky he has not been crowned because one he is crowned, that means he will be locked in a house in Ceel Corfiid, married to four women and each time the wife reaches an age of not bearing children, she must vacate the position. Basically the Ugaas will have his entire life run by others while not having a single input in being able to make decisions for himself personally but his decisions for the clan can not be questioned LOL
Garaad 1500s to 1800s as traditional head
Ugaas 1800s to now as traditional head
there is no hierarchical structure between the two titles, under the traditional head be it Ugaas or predecessor Garaad would be Caaqils and oday dhaqamed.
A lineage usually takes on a title even without being head of MX if it grows in power and leads in some capacity being its own polity of some sort, this is how Ugaas lineage came about even when it wasn't traditional head of MX.
titles are passed down from father to son be they The title of traditional head, or separate titles.
this all some medieval BS anyway, I don't know why a girl is into this you can't even pass on a lineage walaalo why worry about titles

Re: The injustice within Farah Ugaas
Dalalos
So your telling me the title Garaad died once the change happened. I am assuming the Ugaas is only for Marehan and not other sub clans within the family tree above Marehan which am not sure what you are after Darood. The same way the Imaam title is officially Imaam of Hiraab but since HG now have their own Ugaas and stuff have no loyalty to him while each Sub clan have Ugaas. Basically Imaam= King while the Ugaas= Prince.
As for passing on Lineage, my children are not Somali so I can and have passed on the Lineage to them since their connection to
Somali is only me. Heck I make sure they know my sub clan etc in the event they marry a non Somali and later on children descended from them run into Somali/marry from them so they can say our bla bla was Somali from this background LOL
So your telling me the title Garaad died once the change happened. I am assuming the Ugaas is only for Marehan and not other sub clans within the family tree above Marehan which am not sure what you are after Darood. The same way the Imaam title is officially Imaam of Hiraab but since HG now have their own Ugaas and stuff have no loyalty to him while each Sub clan have Ugaas. Basically Imaam= King while the Ugaas= Prince.
As for passing on Lineage, my children are not Somali so I can and have passed on the Lineage to them since their connection to
Somali is only me. Heck I make sure they know my sub clan etc in the event they marry a non Somali and later on children descended from them run into Somali/marry from them so they can say our bla bla was Somali from this background LOL
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Re: The injustice within Farah Ugaas
Somalis said, doqon markaad xishooto baqdin buu moodaawhen I say seperate traditional head from politics he thinks its an attack on his Habar wadaag Diini cousins, but it actually is empowerment of the tradition and dhaqan of MX. Besides Rer Ugaas Sharmaake are total shambles in politics, they produced PM Xiirane who was behind the Hiraale attack on Kismaayo that utterly failed, Jubaland VP Fartaag who is current Senator and a bunch of other losers, its their saving grace to exist politics and focus on dhaqanka as the Ugaas laf, most MX are looking at them in disbelief
Little boy, if it ain't clear to you and you somehow don't really taste the salt from the pepper, let me make this clear for you.
I am the first one with his qori when a afkaneefle like you ever get his buggers anywhere near nin reer Ugaas ah ama Bah-Xawaadleba
So why don't you go and scurry on out of here. We don't care to hear your opinion about what having Ugaas or not having Ugaas has to do with anything.
Reer Ugaas Shermaarke aint nowhere sitting around even caring to hear your opinion. Reer Ugaas Shermaarke halkee ku aragtaaa?
Ypu keep mumbling about the Ugaas there in Galmudug means Reer Ugaas Shermaarke have been taught a lesson nor something as if reer Ugaas Shermaarke even live in Galdlmudug.
Last time I looked rerr Ugaas Shermarke is the most migrated reer Diini clan, provided a large part of the Galti force that conquered the Jubba and are today almost all in Baardheere their principal base. Them not havig anything in Galmudug has nothing to do with having the focking Ugaas.
the Ugaas Gedo is also reer Ugaas Shermarke and that didn't stop them from an MP and a Senator.
This what mean about this kid. Waa completely subversive and when I said his lack of good faith as a motivation makes ME want to focking clap for reer Ugaas Shermaarke in the over representation.
Just shut up and go away. People like you are the opposite nof what will evet bring either Marehan or Somalis together.
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Re: The injustice within Farah Ugaas
Rer Ugaas Sharmaake exiting politics and freeing up federal representative seats will enhance the role of Ugaas and unify dhaqanka Beesha Sade as there is no conflict of interest, it will also create room for more equitable sharing among Farah Ugaas and MX, I cannot stress how important such a move is for MX.Voltage wrote: Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:17 pmSomalis said, doqon markaad xishooto baqdin buu moodaawhen I say seperate traditional head from politics he thinks its an attack on his Habar wadaag Diini cousins, but it actually is empowerment of the tradition and dhaqan of MX. Besides Rer Ugaas Sharmaake are total shambles in politics, they produced PM Xiirane who was behind the Hiraale attack on Kismaayo that utterly failed, Jubaland VP Fartaag who is current Senator and a bunch of other losers, its their saving grace to exist politics and focus on dhaqanka as the Ugaas laf, most MX are looking at them in disbelief
Little boy, if it ain't clear to you and you somehow don't really taste the salt from the pepper, let me make this clear for you.
I am the first one with his qori when a afkaneefle like you ever get his buggers anywhere near nin reer Ugaas ah ama Bah-Xawaadleba
So why don't you go and scurry on out of here. We don't care to hear your opinion about what having Ugaas or not having Ugaas has to do with anything.
Reer Ugaas Shermaarke aint nowhere sitting around even caring to hear your opinion. Reer Ugaas Shermaarke halkee ku aragtaaa?
Ypu keep mumbling about the Ugaas there in Galmudug means Reer Ugaas Shermaarke have been taught a lesson nor something as if reer Ugaas Shermaarke even live in Galdlmudug.
Last time I looked rerr Ugaas Shermarke is the most migrated reer Diini clan, provided a large part of the Galti force that conquered the Jubba and are today almost all in Baardheere their principal base. Them not havig anything in Galmudug has nothing to do with having the focking Ugaas.
the Ugaas Gedo is also reer Ugaas Shermarke and that didn't stop them from an MP and a Senator.
This what mean about this kid. Waa completely subversive and when I said his lack of good faith as a motivation makes ME want to focking clap for reer Ugaas Shermaarke in the over representation.
Just shut up and go away. People like you are the opposite nof what will evet bring either Marehan or Somalis together.
Voltage do not make a fool out of yourself again, what Qori do you have, didn't you hand your last weapons over to the enemies of MX aka Habar Gidir.

You are literally the last person to make threats at any MX, be f-king quit.
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Re: The injustice within Farah Ugaas
Adali-
You insult Marehan every single post you make. Literally every single post.
I gave you u your own medicine once. ONCE. One. Single. Time.
Yet you carry a chip on your shoulder that shouldn't even be there if you are even nin Mareexaan ah and like the sambac I have come to expect you to be, continue to show yourself to be nothing more than that movie caricature where a Napoleon Dynamite type of guy joins a mafia only to give us moments like his rifle going off during a meeting in the office because---well he is out of character in the whole movie.
Do you not realize you are a caricature? How can you so oblivious to your conduct?
You don't know how to be real. You don't know how to respect boundaries because you don't know how to set it for yourself. You can't reflect what you don't even know how to do for yourself.
You don't know how to calculate strategic assertiveness and employ deference from a position of strength. You see my friend, it takes more willpower and quite literally more effort and more self-discipline and motr confidence to hold fire even when Napoleon in you is shooting aimlessly anywhere.
I haven't responded to you on subclannish basis even once since that time. Not even once. Napoleon meanwhile has been shooting blanks nonestop.
I am not even motivated to acknowledge it once because you know why?
Because you are a doqon. Period.
You know why the Chinese love the word harmony? For the same reason humans find the more symmetrical the face the more beautiful.
In Somali, they imbibed the same algorithm based way of making sense of our world as above.
We call it MIISAAN.
And the more innately we can leverage "miisaan", the more Somalis say the person has "garasho."
All humans of all cultures and religions and races we all equate intelligence, depth, maturity, admirablr qualities to that Somalis called "garasho."
And all cultures similarly identify in their owñ languages.
In English, we call it CONSCIOUS AWARENESS.
And I have found you to be severely lacking off which is your least redeeming quality and why you are so oblivious to how irrelevant you comr across to mr sometimes.
P. s. For a guy who has shown such unexplainably obsessively compulsive "NEED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW HOW MUCH I SUPERFICIALLY HATE MAJEERTEEN" ... i just realized beyond that personal critique, how Majeerteen like mannered you are specifically how reer Cigalle like mannered you are. At least you grew up in such a household.
You don't have a whiff of Mareexaan dhaqan about you. This is not a judgement call about onr dhaqan is better than another but there is an identifiable Marehan dhaqan I can literally smell and I am very well aware of Majeerteen dhaqan nough to not only say you are a clone of it but specifically neithin Cumar Maxmuud/Cigalle is where your particular individual dhaqan has sourced from.
Very clearly your overly loud and imposed Majeerteen obsession was projection it seems.
You insult Marehan every single post you make. Literally every single post.
I gave you u your own medicine once. ONCE. One. Single. Time.
Yet you carry a chip on your shoulder that shouldn't even be there if you are even nin Mareexaan ah and like the sambac I have come to expect you to be, continue to show yourself to be nothing more than that movie caricature where a Napoleon Dynamite type of guy joins a mafia only to give us moments like his rifle going off during a meeting in the office because---well he is out of character in the whole movie.
Do you not realize you are a caricature? How can you so oblivious to your conduct?
You don't know how to be real. You don't know how to respect boundaries because you don't know how to set it for yourself. You can't reflect what you don't even know how to do for yourself.
You don't know how to calculate strategic assertiveness and employ deference from a position of strength. You see my friend, it takes more willpower and quite literally more effort and more self-discipline and motr confidence to hold fire even when Napoleon in you is shooting aimlessly anywhere.
I haven't responded to you on subclannish basis even once since that time. Not even once. Napoleon meanwhile has been shooting blanks nonestop.
I am not even motivated to acknowledge it once because you know why?
Because you are a doqon. Period.
You know why the Chinese love the word harmony? For the same reason humans find the more symmetrical the face the more beautiful.
In Somali, they imbibed the same algorithm based way of making sense of our world as above.
We call it MIISAAN.
And the more innately we can leverage "miisaan", the more Somalis say the person has "garasho."
All humans of all cultures and religions and races we all equate intelligence, depth, maturity, admirablr qualities to that Somalis called "garasho."
And all cultures similarly identify in their owñ languages.
In English, we call it CONSCIOUS AWARENESS.
And I have found you to be severely lacking off which is your least redeeming quality and why you are so oblivious to how irrelevant you comr across to mr sometimes.
P. s. For a guy who has shown such unexplainably obsessively compulsive "NEED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW HOW MUCH I SUPERFICIALLY HATE MAJEERTEEN" ... i just realized beyond that personal critique, how Majeerteen like mannered you are specifically how reer Cigalle like mannered you are. At least you grew up in such a household.
You don't have a whiff of Mareexaan dhaqan about you. This is not a judgement call about onr dhaqan is better than another but there is an identifiable Marehan dhaqan I can literally smell and I am very well aware of Majeerteen dhaqan nough to not only say you are a clone of it but specifically neithin Cumar Maxmuud/Cigalle is where your particular individual dhaqan has sourced from.
Very clearly your overly loud and imposed Majeerteen obsession was projection it seems.
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Re: The injustice within Farah Ugaas
Having another breakdown ?Voltage wrote: Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:01 am Adali-
You insult Marehan every single post you make. Literally every single post.
I gave you u your own medicine once. ONCE. One. Single. Time.
Yet you carry a chip on your shoulder that shouldn't even be there if you are even nin Mareexaan ah and like the sambac I have come to expect you to be, continue to show yourself to be nothing more than that movie caricature where a Napoleon Dynamite type of guy joins a mafia only to give us moments like his rifle going off during a meeting in the office because---well he is out of character in the whole movie.
Do you not realize you are a caricature? How can you so oblivious to your conduct?
You don't know how to be real. You don't know how to respect boundaries because you don't know how to set it for yourself. You can't reflect what you don't even know how to do for yourself.
You don't know how to calculate strategic assertiveness and employ deference from a position of strength. You see my friend, it takes more willpower and quite literally more effort and more self-discipline and motr confidence to hold fire even when Napoleon in you is shooting aimlessly anywhere.
I haven't responded to you on subclannish basis even once since that time. Not even once. Napoleon meanwhile has been shooting blanks nonestop.
I am not even motivated to acknowledge it once because you know why?
Because you are a doqon. Period.
You know why the Chinese love the word harmony? For the same reason humans find the more symmetrical the face the more beautiful.
In Somali, they imbibed the same algorithm based way of making sense of our world as above.
We call it MIISAAN.
And the more innately we can leverage "miisaan", the more Somalis say the person has "garasho."
All humans of all cultures and religions and races we all equate intelligence, depth, maturity, admirablr qualities to that Somalis called "garasho."
And all cultures similarly identify in their owñ languages.
In English, we call it CONSCIOUS AWARENESS.
And I have found you to be severely lacking off which is your least redeeming quality and why you are so oblivious to how irrelevant you comr across to mr sometimes.
P. s. For a guy who has shown such unexplainably obsessively compulsive "NEED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW HOW MUCH I SUPERFICIALLY HATE MAJEERTEEN" ... i just realized beyond that personal critique, how Majeerteen like mannered you are specifically how reer Cigalle like mannered you are. At least you grew up in such a household.
You don't have a whiff of Mareexaan dhaqan about you. This is not a judgement call about onr dhaqan is better than another but there is an identifiable Marehan dhaqan I can literally smell and I am very well aware of Majeerteen dhaqan nough to not only say you are a clone of it but specifically neithin Cumar Maxmuud/Cigalle is where your particular individual dhaqan has sourced from.
Very clearly your overly loud and imposed Majeerteen obsession was projection it seems.


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