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Re: Al Shabaab hawiye waaye iyo wixii la halmaama!
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:28 pm
by Isseayaanle
Hawiye support anything that has death and destruction and will do anything to dismantle any sense of law and order. But the worst of all is ISSAQ and MAJERTAIN. They have been keeping the status quo which is the reason we have many presidents and I’d they put their foot down the capital and AID would’ve moved and they can kill themselves. Also, Sahal is in a tough place because he sees how HAG true nature is and his hometown is buring so he tries to deflect from the situation by blaming others or saying “HAWIYE, HAWIYE, HAWIYE BROTHERHOID”. Sahal is exactly the type of person who would’ve supported the slave trade even he was in West Africa at that time. Disgusting hypocrite. May ALLAHSWT give you the hate and destruction you have for other Somalis.
Re: Al Shabaab hawiye waaye iyo wixii la halmaama!
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:49 pm
by sahal80
aniga waxaan ahay free thinker kama wado diin ahaan laakin inaan rayigeyga xorta cabiro. dad jiran baa iska soo galay markey arkaan magaca hawiye ayagoo deegaanka aan ka hadlayo ka soo jeedin iyo mid intruder ah oo samaale vs hawiye u rogaya
pointgeyga waa sheegay so im out kii ku farxi lahaa iyo kii ka xumaan lahaa i stated the Facts waxaad qarsato waa ku qarsadaan no more qaris danbe!
Al shabaab tikniko oo ceelbuur ka timid ayaa hada moqokori soo gaarey culeyska ay hiiraan kala kulmeen. are Murusade iyo Duduble marginalized in Hiiraan?
Saleebaan have chance waxaa dhiman Abgaal oo Adan yabaal iyo ruun nirgood u diyaar garooba. Al shabaab are hawiye.
Re: Al Shabaab hawiye waaye iyo wixii la halmaama!
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:13 pm
by original dervish
After the latest atrocities emotions are running high on snet.
Everyone needs to calm down and think clearly.
AS will not be defeated if like Sahal and aboowe claim AS is in this or that tribes land.
There must be a unified offensive against AS spearheaded by the govt. Every southern clan must unite to destroy AS.
AS will not be defeated piecemeal..........if they're eliminated in clan B land.....they will just relocate to clan A land.
AS must be attacked from every direction.....there must be nowhere to run and nowhere to hide.
These dreadful senseless atrocities must you used to galvanise the Govt/ clans into action.
Re: Al Shabaab hawiye waaye iyo wixii la halmaama!
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:12 pm
by Murax
The Capital first needs to be moved north of Gaalkacyo. This isn’t selfish of me, heck as a MX I’d probably be treated worse than any Hawiye, Ealay in a MJ town. That said I don’t know how any real national Government will function in Xamar.
Let Xamar be a great financial hub for Hawiye, but the legaslative capital for Somalia be somewhere else
Re: Al Shabaab hawiye waaye iyo wixii la halmaama!
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:31 pm
by nine
Murax
Why do you think areas under AS you don't hear of the usual Koonfur drama and is qabqabsi? Why do you think shacab have more respect for AS courts? Because Somalis respect xoog and brute force not hadal to tame them (but they will rarely admit it out shame).
Re: Al Shabaab hawiye waaye iyo wixii la halmaama!
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:44 pm
by Murax
nine wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:31 pm
Murax
Why do you think areas under AS you don't hear of the usual Koonfur drama and is qabqabsi? Why do you think shacab have more respect for AS courts? Because Somalis respect xoog and brute force not hadal to tame them (but they will rarely admit it out shame).
Agree 1000%
Infact you could even say it’s the same in the entire Eastern part of the world i.e Middle East, Africa. I laugh when 68 IQ Somali politicians, shacab talk about ‘Dastuur’ ‘Demoqraadiyad’ ‘Federaalisami’ who are they lying to
Re: Al Shabaab hawiye waaye iyo wixii la halmaama!
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:02 am
by Phinks
Murax wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:12 pm
The Capital first needs to be moved north of Gaalkacyo. This isn’t selfish of me, heck as a MX I’d probably be treated worse than any Hawiye, Ealay in a MJ town. That said I don’t know how any real national Government will function in Xamar.
Let Xamar be a great financial hub for Hawiye, but the legaslative capital for Somalia be somewhere else
Puntland does not discriminate against any clan, we're a civilised people alhamdulillah. Even Dabcasar says MJ is the only mild tempered clan, we Kaftan without getting emotional.
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSRPrvnVj/
MX are not discriminated anywhere in Puntland, they own businesses and have been integrating into Puntland the last two decades, this is fear mongering. They also share towns in Doolo with MJ with zero strife or issue, intermarriage is high, same case in Mudug.
Calm down mate.
Re: Al Shabaab hawiye waaye iyo wixii la halmaama!
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:16 am
by Murax
Phinks wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:02 am
Murax wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:12 pm
The Capital first needs to be moved north of Gaalkacyo. This isn’t selfish of me, heck as a MX I’d probably be treated worse than any Hawiye, Ealay in a MJ town. That said I don’t know how any real national Government will function in Xamar.
Let Xamar be a great financial hub for Hawiye, but the legaslative capital for Somalia be somewhere else
Puntland does not discriminate against any clan, we're a civilised people alhamdulillah. Even Dabcasar says MJ is the only mild tempered clan, we Kaftan without getting emotional.
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSRPrvnVj/
MX are not discriminated anywhere in Puntland, they own businesses and have been integrating into Puntland the last two decades, this is fear mongering. They also share towns in Doolo with MJ with zero strife or issue, intermarriage is high, same case in Mudug.
Calm down mate.
Lol I know bro I just didn’t want anyone thinking it’s because of Qabil why I’m mentioning Garowe or somewhere similar. My Dad was there for 3 months, had great treatment. Not one bullet went off.
Koonfur in general is cursed
Re: Al Shabaab hawiye waaye iyo wixii la halmaama!
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:20 am
by original dervish
It's not cursed at all.
The moryaanism that grew up during the 1990s has been codified into southern politics.
The biggest isbaaro in Mogadishu is Villa Somalia
Re: Al Shabaab hawiye waaye iyo wixii la halmaama!
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 10:30 am
by Ghiklo
Murax wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:16 am
Phinks wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:02 am
Murax wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:12 pm
The Capital first needs to be moved north of Gaalkacyo. This isn’t selfish of me, heck as a MX I’d probably be treated worse than any Hawiye, Ealay in a MJ town. That said I don’t know how any real national Government will function in Xamar.
Let Xamar be a great financial hub for Hawiye, but the legaslative capital for Somalia be somewhere else
Lol I know bro I just didn’t want anyone thinking it’s because of Qabil why I’m mentioning Garowe or somewhere similar. My Dad was there for 3 months, had great treatment. Not one bullet went off.
Koonfur in general is cursed
Gaalkacyo makes the most sense geographically and tribally.
Garowe is so safe because of the harsh climate/landscape around it. If you aren't native to Garowe and the locals kick you out you will die. The locals know all the oases in Nugaal so this isn't a problem for the natives.
Re: Al Shabaab hawiye waaye iyo wixii la halmaama!
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 10:54 am
by barbarossa
The reason why koonfur appears to be more conflict-prone, in frequency/intensity, at least, than other parts of the country, has got nothing to do with it being cursed or that somehow Nature has furnished folks in other skinny-inhabited regions with an innate appreciation for peaceful coexistence. No, it is nothing like that; it is just that there is a lot more at stake in the South, and given the sheer multitude of clans often involved in this Hanger Games type contest, it should scarcely come as surprise that the cycle of violence remains, comparatively, ever more constant.
Re: Al Shabaab hawiye waaye iyo wixii la halmaama!
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:56 pm
by Khalid Ali
barbarossa wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 10:54 am
The reason why koonfur appears to be more conflict-prone, in frequency/intensity, at least, than other parts of the country, has got nothing to do with it being cursed or that somehow Nature has furnished folks in other skinny-inhabited regions with an innate appreciation for peaceful coexistence. No, it is nothing like that; it is just that there is a lot more at stake in the South, and given the sheer multitude of clans often involved in this Hanger Games type contest, it should scarcely come as surprise that the cycle of violence remains, comparatively, ever more constant.
How come then it was peaceful pre 1991 how come it was even peaceful pre afweyne in the sixties. This idea that is multi clan is just bulshit the problem is one clan and their division and that clan is hawiye There are only digil Mirifle in the south the rest are point five and two darood subclans yaa baas eeg so raaca and Ogaden became relevant in politics in the south just recently from the darood it was just marexaan and marexaan seems to get along with hawiye so I don’t see a conflict there
Re: Al Shabaab hawiye waaye iyo wixii la halmaama!
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:17 pm
by original dervish
Decades of moryaanism has changed the culture.
A moryaan in a suit is still a moryaan.
Re: Al Shabaab hawiye waaye iyo wixii la halmaama!
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 11:18 pm
by MrSinister
original dervish wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:17 pm
Decades of moryaanism has changed the culture.
A moryaan in a suit is still a moryaan.
The hutus in Rwanda who make up 85% of the population realized they needed tutsi leadership and today Rwanda is thriving. The Hutu’s in Somalia are still waving machetes
Re: Al Shabaab hawiye waaye iyo wixii la halmaama!
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 4:06 am
by original dervish
To be fair to them.....its only a minority.
They are the first ones to suffer as has been clearly demonstrated.
