Deni politically defeated

[paperino]

Thanks for telling us you’re Al Shabaab. I hope the home office pays you a visit I doubt it.

Sirdoonka would be interested in Khalid or the one assuming his username.

1. They were doqon before, the average abgaal is typical xoolo ,

2. After too much cay from us and many power misuse from the dooro club. They have realised how doqon they were for a long time.

Looma baahna 60 jalaato cunaya oo ciyaalka xaafadaan ahay odhanaya markay talo faro ka haado. Hada atleast 60 jir koodu macawis buu soo qaatay si uu goofkiisa u xoraysto. Very positive. Qabyaaladiina waa barteen weliba si funny ah. Taasna waa an other positive. Hore u socdaan leeyahay.

That's a terrible comment coming from an adult.

[Nomand]

Nomand thanks a lot for responding. Final question: What do you think of the ABG-MJ alliance? Is it dead? And how will this disastrous Hutu lead government effect normal Somali clans like Dir, Raxawayne and marehan? Will their condition worsen or be the same. My observation is business as usual except this time: More Hutu on Hutu violence, Idoors and majertein kids drowning in Libya coast and the rise of alshaydaan because of clans getting weapons from the government such as Macawisley.

There was never a mj abgaal alliance. Abgaal and mj are not neighbours. However there was a political alliance between mj political elite and some abgaal politicians.

However during culusow first term he named 2 back to back marehan PM's. Then after that he named a MJ PM. So one can say culusow was never a fan of puntland or MJ but chose MJ as the last resort when he knew marehan PM's won't be weak or allow stealing public funds.

As for the security it will effect the people in mogadishu more then anyone else. The situation in mogadishu is very dire everyday a sarkaal or nisa agent is shot dead. Isbaaro are back. Giving weapons to the mooriyaan macawisley has 3 points

1) it is well documented culusow saying somalia does not need a national army

2) somalia is a poor country and the army take up the bulk of the government resources. Culusow wants to steal it but he needs to get rid of the army first hence this so called macawisleey offence against al shabaab which further cements point 1

3) the macawisleey will fail they will sell their guns to Al shabaab or hawiye will fight within each other over Land but by then culusow stole the money ment for government salaries and has paid off the xalane mafia, so he does not care.

[Zak77]

Sinisiter I thought u was smarter then that
What power does hassan culusow have what real physicial power does he have this reminds me of failmaajo who said he owns the Berbera port and the dp world manager said we are signing the papers here in berbera so who ever owns berbera. Must come here. Do you really think if hassan sheikh says no to the USA to come to berbera it can have any impact but if somaliland said no to the USA u can’t come to berbera then USA can’t come to berbera even if they have the approval of the bunker president of amisom . The same way somaliland told china to fuck off we don’t need or want ur money our relationship with taiwan is on principle u know having a millatary base some where u need the government that is actually in control of that part of the world
To be on ur side it’s not like being a paper govt. only u can’t buy shit with that

Have you watched Hassans recent interview? This is the problem with isaaq before they reach xamar they pass through garowes whispers. go watch HSMs interview on Villa Somalia Page, he made it very clear that he would not interfere with Somaliland development (or any region for that matter) because development in Somaliland; IS STILL development and should not be politicised. Those were the words from his own mouth go watch his interview on Villa som page that took place just yesterday (Sat 17th September). Isaaq and MJ have flattered themselves too much, HSM is not worried for you guys or your endeavors atm because he has Hawiye land to free and Somalia as a whole from Shabaab, and from recent events, you can see how alshabaab are getting hit in hiiraan and just today Galmudug is waging a war on Shabaab to free its remaining occupied deegaans. SL will rejoin Somalia just not now because there's bigger fish to fry, serious talks will be opened later own on Somaliland terms as per HSMS words.

As for PL once the south is freed PL will have to automatically submit to Mogadishu. The days of hoping Hawiye bite each other's hands are over MPS and senators are headed to their lands to free them. Do you really think PL will have the power to act how it likes by the time Somalia is freed from Shabaab and MPs have come back to share on a national level after months of gruesome wars? Let me thin it down Hawiye MPs and leaders. The way shabaab was physically uprooted (By the time the nation is freed from the terrorist) is what would happen to the state. Oh, and if you think Ethiopia will be at our aid laugh at yourself twice and then a third time because the horn of Africa has officially changed. PL will have to submit to xamar like all other states in the future once alshabaab is defeated and let's` hope the physical route isn't used but Knowing PL I fear for them. If the correct calculations aren't made in this time period hada iga qor PL has darker days ahead of it.

Once shabaab is freed from Somalia expect a great political reform in Somalia be it powersharing, resource allocation or power, the days of maala awaal are gone the horn has changed.

[Zak77]

Sinisiter I thought u was smarter then that
What power does hassan culusow have what real physicial power does he have this reminds me of failmaajo who said he owns the Berbera port and the dp world manager said we are signing the papers here in berbera so who ever owns berbera. Must come here. Do you really think if hassan sheikh says no to the USA to come to berbera it can have any impact but if somaliland said no to the USA u can’t come to berbera then USA can’t come to berbera even if they have the approval of the bunker president of amisom . The same way somaliland told china to fuck off we don’t need or want ur money our relationship with taiwan is on principle u know having a millatary base some where u need the government that is actually in control of that part of the world
To be on ur side it’s not like being a paper govt. only u can’t buy shit with that

Have you watched Hassans recent interview? This is the problem with isaaq before they reach xamar they pass through garowes whispers. go watch HSMs interview on Villa Somalia Page, he made it very clear that he would not interfere with Somaliland development (or any region for that matter) because development in Somaliland; IS STILL development and should not be politicised. Those were the words from his own mouth go watch his interview on Villa som page that took place just yesterday (Sat 17th September). Isaaq and MJ have flattered themselves too much, HSM is not worried for you guys or your endeavors atm because he has Hawiye land to free and Somalia as a whole from Shabaab, and from recent events, you can see how alshabaab are getting hit in hiiraan and just today Galmudug is waging a war on Shabaab to free its remaining occupied deegaans. SL will rejoin Somalia just not now because there's bigger fish to fry, serious talks will be opened later own on Somaliland terms as per HSMS words.

As for PL once the south is freed PL will have to automatically submit to Mogadishu. The days of hoping Hawiye bite each other's hands are over MPS and senators are headed to their lands to free them. Do you really think PL will have the power to act how it likes by the time Somalia is freed from Shabaab and MPs have come back to share on a national level after months of gruesome wars? Let me thin it down Hawiye MPs and leaders. The way shabaab was physically uprooted (By the time the nation is freed from the terrorist) is what would happen to the state. Oh, and if you think Ethiopia will be at our aid laugh at yourself twice and then a third time because the horn of Africa has officially changed. PL will have to submit to xamar like all other states in the future once alshabaab is defeated and let's` hope the physical route isn't used but Knowing PL I fear for them. If the correct calculations aren't made in this time period hada iga qor PL has darker days ahead of it.

Once shabaab is freed from Somalia expect a great political reform in Somalia be it powersharing, resource allocation or power, the days of maala awaal are gone the horn has changed.

[Khalid Ali]

Somaliland will never rejoin somalia ever again and the talksnwirh somalia are dead talks aren’t going to happen atleast not in foreseeable future somaliland havenstopped these talks long time ago. The only way talks can happen is if we have re assurance from the international community as mediators that they will mediate between us and the walanweyns thats the only way

As for puntland. Hassan sheikh needs puntland because puntland has more territory under its control they need it He can’t ignore them the international community needs that hassan sheikh is good with pl that’s why he visited them

[paperino]

Somaliland will never rejoin somalia ever again and the talksnwirh somalia are dead talks aren’t going to happen atleast not in foreseeable future somaliland havenstopped these talks long time ago. The only way talks can happen is if we have re assurance from the international community as mediators that they will mediate between us and the walanweyns thats the only way

As for puntland. Hassan sheikh needs puntland because puntland has more territory under its control they need it He can’t ignore them the international community needs that hassan sheikh is good with pl that’s why he visited them

At this time, it isn't a priority nor is Somalia desperate to bring WG to the fold. If WG was prosperous & produced oil, gold, diamonds, etc--then Somalia would be forced to bring it back to the fold by any means. WG isn't going anywhere.

[Isseayaanle]

I see Hutus here thinking their more powerful than the AVG Somalia clan. Do they not realize without xamar they can’t do anything? Walahi these people are something else. But I give 1 more year or less till they go to their original Hutu on Hutu violence.

[Zak77]

I see Hutus here thinking their more powerful than the AVG Somalia clan. Do they not realize without xamar they can’t do anything? Walahi these people are something else. But I give 1 more year or less till they go to their original Hutu on Hutu violence.

You wish. Hawiye turub baray. "https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.p ... &width=500"

[Isseayaanle]

I see Hutus here thinking their more powerful than the AVG Somalia clan. Do they not realize without xamar they can’t do anything? Walahi these people are something else. But I give 1 more year or less till they go to their original Hutu on Hutu violence.

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[Khalid Ali]

Somaliland will never rejoin somalia ever again and the talksnwirh somalia are dead talks aren’t going to happen atleast not in foreseeable future somaliland havenstopped these talks long time ago. The only way talks can happen is if we have re assurance from the international community as mediators that they will mediate between us and the walanweyns thats the only way

As for puntland. Hassan sheikh needs puntland because puntland has more territory under its control they need it He can’t ignore them the international community needs that hassan sheikh is good with pl that’s why he visited them

At this time, it isn't a priority nor is Somalia desperate to bring WG to the fold. If WG was prosperous & produced oil, gold, diamonds, etc--then Somalia would be forced to bring it back to the fold by any means. WG isn't going anywhere.

Somalia would be forced by who exactly to do what and against who Somalia can’t even function as a normal country for decades it’s the only country that has no army no police no institutions if today amisom decides to lease hsm will be beheaded by shabaab it will fall down like a house of cards and the bunker will be a shabaab bunker for the forseable future

[noer]

Sinisiter I thought u was smarter then that
What power does hassan culusow have what real physicial power does he have this reminds me of failmaajo who said he owns the Berbera port and the dp world manager said we are signing the papers here in berbera so who ever owns berbera. Must come here. Do you really think if hassan sheikh says no to the USA to come to berbera it can have any impact but if somaliland said no to the USA u can’t come to berbera then USA can’t come to berbera even if they have the approval of the bunker president of amisom . The same way somaliland told china to fuck off we don’t need or want ur money our relationship with taiwan is on principle u know having a millatary base some where u need the government that is actually in control of that part of the world
To be on ur side it’s not like being a paper govt. only u can’t buy shit with that

Have you watched Hassans recent interview? This is the problem with isaaq before they reach xamar they pass through garowes whispers. go watch HSMs interview on Villa Somalia Page, he made it very clear that he would not interfere with Somaliland development (or any region for that matter) because development in Somaliland; IS STILL development and should not be politicised. Those were the words from his own mouth go watch his interview on Villa som page that took place just yesterday (Sat 17th September). Isaaq and MJ have flattered themselves too much, HSM is not worried for you guys or your endeavors atm because he has Hawiye land to free and Somalia as a whole from Shabaab, and from recent events, you can see how alshabaab are getting hit in hiiraan and just today Galmudug is waging a war on Shabaab to free its remaining occupied deegaans. SL will rejoin Somalia just not now because there's bigger fish to fry, serious talks will be opened later own on Somaliland terms as per HSMS words.

As for PL once the south is freed PL will have to automatically submit to Mogadishu. The days of hoping Hawiye bite each other's hands are over MPS and senators are headed to their lands to free them. Do you really think PL will have the power to act how it likes by the time Somalia is freed from Shabaab and MPs have come back to share on a national level after months of gruesome wars? Let me thin it down Hawiye MPs and leaders. The way shabaab was physically uprooted (By the time the nation is freed from the terrorist) is what would happen to the state. Oh, and if you think Ethiopia will be at our aid laugh at yourself twice and then a third time because the horn of Africa has officially changed. PL will have to submit to xamar like all other states in the future once alshabaab is defeated and let's` hope the physical route isn't used but Knowing PL I fear for them. If the correct calculations aren't made in this time period hada iga qor PL has darker days ahead of it.

Once shabaab is freed from Somalia expect a great political reform in Somalia be it powersharing, resource allocation or power, the days of maala awaal are gone the horn has changed.

me tink khalid ali is closer to truth here. gurgurte thinks he needs magertenland. sland ain't talking to him. we don't even control the fake idoor MPs who pretend to be Dir in the ex italian colony. nothing he can do or say when it come to sland. if i was gurgurte i would laser focus on freeing al shabab held areas. but understand nothing you can do in magertenalnd 'cept letting the stealth secessionists deal wit their ISIL al shabab branches

[Zak77]

Somaliland will never rejoin somalia ever again and the talksnwirh somalia are dead talks aren’t going to happen atleast not in foreseeable future somaliland havenstopped these talks long time ago. The only way talks can happen is if we have re assurance from the international community as mediators that they will mediate between us and the walanweyns thats the only way

As for puntland. Hassan sheikh needs puntland because puntland has more territory under its control they need it He can’t ignore them the international community needs that hassan sheikh is good with pl that’s why he visited them

At this time, it isn't a priority nor is Somalia desperate to bring WG to the fold. If WG was prosperous & produced oil, gold, diamonds, etc--then Somalia would be forced to bring it back to the fold by any means. WG isn't going anywhere.

Somalia would be forced by who exactly to do what and against who Somalia can’t even function as a normal country for decades it’s the only country that has no army no police no institutions if today amisom decides to lease hsm will be beheaded by shabaab it will fall down like a house of cards and the bunker will be a shabaab bunker for the forseable future

I love how uninformed Non southerners are they think everything is what their corrupt leaders spew them. I cant wait for the day these northern regions transcend into political crisis once the truth onsets upon them. Hawiye are freeing their lands are you freeing yourself from Kacaan remnants? 30years with peace and what exactly do you have to show for it? No independence, political mayhem, lies the list goes on. I dont hate anyone or intentionally dislike any somali region but the sad truth is everywhere of the somali peninsula have been lying to themselves but I only see hawiye waking upto the true reality of their situation and trying to fix it.

[Khalid Ali]

How are we lying to our selves
We created our country govt state institutions and told walanweyns to fuck that we don’t need them any more how is that lying we know we are not fully diplomatically recognised but we have diplomatic ties with several countries our passport is recognised by several country’s we receive some minimum aid nee are all a country de facto republic how is any of that a lie mise waxad leedahay hanaga tegina we can’t live with out yaal u have five African countries helping u defeated shabaab for over 14 years and u haven’t come close to defeat then it was just a few weeks ago they detonated their biggest attack in xamar u have no institutions no physical control over ur territory i think you are over optimistic u will defeat them
Our recognition is in the hands of other the western establishments the Arabs that hate us more then u hate me. We know how our difficult position we are in but we are getting there eventually we will get what we want

[noer]

How are we lying to our selves
We created our country govt state institutions and told walanweyns to fuck that we don’t need them any more how is that lying we know we are not fully diplomatically recognised but we have diplomatic ties with several countries our passport is recognised by several country’s we receive some minimum aid nee are all a country de facto republic how is any of that a lie mise waxad leedahay hanaga tegina we can’t live with out yaal u have five African countries helping u defeated shabaab for over 14 years and u haven’t come close to defeat then it was just a few weeks ago they detonated their biggest attack in xamar u have no institutions no physical control over ur territory i think you are over optimistic u will defeat them
Our recognition is in the hands of other the western establishments the Arabs that hate us more then u hate me. We know how our difficult position we are in but we are getting there eventually we will get what we want

he is lying to himself too. he tink gurgurte cares about freeing hawiyaland from ISIL or ATMIS. but he is rite. about sland leaders lying. we can't just ignore what happens in the ex italian colony. we can't let our enemies take over our neighbor. unless we want the ex italian colony to be even more hostile towards us. niggas need to be smart. like kenya occupation of jubaland.

like u said rite now. the only thing that unites the ex italian colony is hatred of sland. that shouldnt be the case. if we were smart. they would be divided into our enemies or friends. n we could use our allies against our enemies