The process of uniting PL and somaliland begins

[mahor]

Whats wrong with the status quo? the situation seems stable to me. Reer sool have put down their arms, warsengali are happy with their lot in puntland, and both states core territories seem to be prospering too. I understand that things can quickly turn bad but the two administrations need a working relationship, and both work to suppress any forces that seek to undo the relative peace and stability.

[mahoka]

I’m in. Why not. Isaaq are reer magaal. We can be the fourth Habar, habar majerteen

There is a reason why reer burco and reer gaalkacyo have something in common. Indha adayd iyo aftahanimo. We are the decedents of queen araweelo. Legend says when the queen araweelo castrated all men , she spared the one with the biggest diick, his name was AJI . And he is the father of harti and iidoor. Right after she gave birth to these two sons. Queen arawalo killed AJI. The orphans were raised by two Arab sheikhs , sheekh isaxaaq and Dauud (aka daarod) . And that's how we separated each an other. Only me knows this story. I have learned from a very old sheekh. Jokes aside this is an example of how to create new identities out of the blue .

Nigga stop sucking off darod just cuz your wife is darod.

[mahoka]

I know you isaaqs and MJ Average people can't see this coming , but it's going to happen sooner than you think. In the coming decades You will see active political organizations campaigning for this in all regions of puntland and Somaliland. And guess what they are going to win if they are allowed to participate the elections.

ustad. nobody in sland wants somaliland on equal footing wit a tribal province. somaliland is 1 of 5 constituent nations in the hypothetical greater somali republic. magertenland is just a tribal province within 1 of the 5 constiuent nations.

ur dream is is like somalia the ex italian colony aspiring to form a union with guban region of somaliland. no offense to ustad right wing. no offense to isse musse n bi'idle. but guban is the dryest region of somaliland. xis n 'el afweyn would be analogous to bosaso n burtinle

if i'm the ex italian colony, i want berbera, hargeisa, erigabo, las anot, n borame from somailand. if i'm somaliland, i want the ex italian colony's jubaland, hirshabele or jubaland. no offense to osman mahamud, omar mahamud or bi'idle n isse muse

People make difference. Go Compare Israel to Congo. Both puntland and somaliland climate is dry arid climate. Except few pockets. The unification brings sustainable stability and development. Don't pass your problems to your future offspring. We must solve our problems right now. We only have these 4 options

1. They give up and remove our eastern people from their Constitution
2. We give up and let their harti go
3. We declare a real war on them , I am not talking about few skirmishes but a real destructive one , with a clear winner . And be permanent enemies for life.
4. We both compromise and put the whole shit together. Create a new progressive society and hopefully be the founding fathers of real Somali unity in the future.

Some one has to pay the price of the first 3 options. We have nothing to loose if we take Last option.

Best thing to do is a conference with Mogadishu gov and international stakeholders, we give up our darod minorities in eastern sool and eastern sanaag and Somalia gives us recognition, it’s a win win situation for all.

[theyuusuf143]

ustad. nobody in sland wants somaliland on equal footing wit a tribal province. somaliland is 1 of 5 constituent nations in the hypothetical greater somali republic. magertenland is just a tribal province within 1 of the 5 constiuent nations.

ur dream is is like somalia the ex italian colony aspiring to form a union with guban region of somaliland. no offense to ustad right wing. no offense to isse musse n bi'idle. but guban is the dryest region of somaliland. xis n 'el afweyn would be analogous to bosaso n burtinle

if i'm the ex italian colony, i want berbera, hargeisa, erigabo, las anot, n borame from somailand. if i'm somaliland, i want the ex italian colony's jubaland, hirshabele or jubaland. no offense to osman mahamud, omar mahamud or bi'idle n isse muse

People make difference. Go Compare Israel to Congo. Both puntland and somaliland climate is dry arid climate. Except few pockets. The unification brings sustainable stability and development. Don't pass your problems to your future offspring. We must solve our problems right now. We only have these 4 options

1. They give up and remove our eastern people from their Constitution
2. We give up and let their harti go
3. We declare a real war on them , I am not talking about few skirmishes but a real destructive one , with a clear winner . And be permanent enemies for life.
4. We both compromise and put the whole shit together. Create a new progressive society and hopefully be the founding fathers of real Somali unity in the future.

Some one has to pay the price of the first 3 options. We have nothing to loose if we take Last option.

Best thing to do is a conference with Mogadishu gov and international stakeholders, we give up our darod minorities in eastern sool and eastern sanaag and Somalia gives us recognition, it’s a win win situation for all.

Not bad at all. Muhiimadu waa inuun wax lagu heshiiyo hadaan si fiican loo kala adkaanayn

[theyuusuf143]

Whats wrong with the status quo? the situation seems stable to me. Reer sool have put down their arms, warsengali are happy with their lot in puntland, and both states core territories seem to be prospering too. I understand that things can quickly turn bad but the two administrations need a working relationship, and both work to suppress any forces that seek to undo the relative peace and stability.

Nothing is stable , any new hero wannabe president can pull the trigger any time he wants . We have a whole generation of puntland presidents swearing that they gonna bring sool and sanaag. We have an other millions of somalilanders hailing their army to reach the border. An other millions in puntland feel the pressure of being attacked. So they are in high alert. Each year we both spend no less than 50% of our meager resources on security. The people we are both claiming are suffering too , they don't receive many basic needs because of This dispute. They are confused too and don't know who is right and who is wrong.

Illeen belaayo exit leh waaba laga fakadaaye they can't even go their own way. Anaga iyo majeerteen bay Ku dhex waraareen. Dhulbahante cirraa kasoo baxday. Marku yaabay tusbax buu qaatoo masaajidku galay. Masaajidkiina qoom argagixiso ahba u hor fadhiistay oo habeenba mid dilaya. Argagixisada lafteedu waxay Ka faa,iidaysanaysa xidhiidh xumada Ka dhex jirta shacabka iyo maamulka. Waxaas oo isku huursan baa jira hadaan la xalina anaguna waanu isla hadhayna khayr kayana already Ka hadhnayba. Dadkii somalida indha u ahaa baanu nahay wax kumaanan heshiin Kari waayine hagrasha jirta.

[mahor]

Whats wrong with the status quo? the situation seems stable to me. Reer sool have put down their arms, warsengali are happy with their lot in puntland, and both states core territories seem to be prospering too. I understand that things can quickly turn bad but the two administrations need a working relationship, and both work to suppress any forces that seek to undo the relative peace and stability.

Nothing is stable , any new hero wannabe president can pull the trigger any time he wants . We have a whole generation of puntland presidents swearing that they gonna bring sool and sanaag.

We have an other millions of somalilanders hailing their army to reach the border. An other millions in puntland feel the pressure of being attacked. So they are in high alert. Each year we both spend no less than 50% of our meager resources on security. The people we are both claiming are suffering too , they don't receive many basic needs because of This dispute. They are confused too and don't know who is right and who is wrong.

Puntland leaders saying they'll take back sool is just empty talk, it's a political scheme that they utilize to get themselves voted in. The reality is they couldnt give a hoot about these lands, and considering they only give a shit about money or xamar, 1) these dont produce much and would only be a drain on their coffers, 2) they already have their western harti representation in parliament.

Secondly dont take online trolling from landers too seriously, the average person wouldnt want their kid to die in these scorched land for groups that either oppose your governance or will flip flop the next day.

[Isseayaanle]

ustad. nobody in sland wants somaliland on equal footing wit a tribal province. somaliland is 1 of 5 constituent nations in the hypothetical greater somali republic. magertenland is just a tribal province within 1 of the 5 constiuent nations.

ur dream is is like somalia the ex italian colony aspiring to form a union with guban region of somaliland. no offense to ustad right wing. no offense to isse musse n bi'idle. but guban is the dryest region of somaliland. xis n 'el afweyn would be analogous to bosaso n burtinle

if i'm the ex italian colony, i want berbera, hargeisa, erigabo, las anot, n borame from somailand. if i'm somaliland, i want the ex italian colony's jubaland, hirshabele or jubaland. no offense to osman mahamud, omar mahamud or bi'idle n isse muse

People make difference. Go Compare Israel to Congo. Both puntland and somaliland climate is dry arid climate. Except few pockets. The unification brings sustainable stability and development. Don't pass your problems to your future offspring. We must solve our problems right now. We only have these 4 options

1. They give up and remove our eastern people from their Constitution
2. We give up and let their harti go
3. We declare a real war on them , I am not talking about few skirmishes but a real destructive one , with a clear winner . And be permanent enemies for life.
4. We both compromise and put the whole shit together. Create a new progressive society and hopefully be the founding fathers of real Somali unity in the future.

Some one has to pay the price of the first 3 options. We have nothing to loose if we take Last option.

Best thing to do is a conference with Mogadishu gov and international stakeholders, we give up our darod minorities in eastern sool and eastern sanaag and Somalia gives us recognition, it’s a win win situation for all.

Don’t forget Awdal warriors because they want nothing to do with you. And you fear them that’s why Djabouti and the triangle project made a deal decades ago to squeeze them. Langaab!

[Khalid Ali]

ustad. nobody in sland wants somaliland on equal footing wit a tribal province. somaliland is 1 of 5 constituent nations in the hypothetical greater somali republic. magertenland is just a tribal province within 1 of the 5 constiuent nations.

ur dream is is like somalia the ex italian colony aspiring to form a union with guban region of somaliland. no offense to ustad right wing. no offense to isse musse n bi'idle. but guban is the dryest region of somaliland. xis n 'el afweyn would be analogous to bosaso n burtinle

if i'm the ex italian colony, i want berbera, hargeisa, erigabo, las anot, n borame from somailand. if i'm somaliland, i want the ex italian colony's jubaland, hirshabele or jubaland. no offense to osman mahamud, omar mahamud or bi'idle n isse muse

People make difference. Go Compare Israel to Congo. Both puntland and somaliland climate is dry arid climate. Except few pockets. The unification brings sustainable stability and development. Don't pass your problems to your future offspring. We must solve our problems right now. We only have these 4 options

1. They give up and remove our eastern people from their Constitution
2. We give up and let their harti go
3. We declare a real war on them , I am not talking about few skirmishes but a real destructive one , with a clear winner . And be permanent enemies for life.
4. We both compromise and put the whole shit together. Create a new progressive society and hopefully be the founding fathers of real Somali unity in the future.

Some one has to pay the price of the first 3 options. We have nothing to loose if we take Last option.

Best thing to do is a conference with Mogadishu gov and international stakeholders, we give up our darod minorities in eastern sool and eastern sanaag and Somalia gives us recognition, it’s a win win situation for all.

I don’t think hawiye really cares much for eastern sool and eastern sanaag. Not even marexaan care about it
This deal would have worked if hawiye actually cared for more darood inside Italian Somalia it’s only majeerteenia that cares for it the vast majority of dhulbahante are on the side of somaliland it’s just the wasakhgali who oppose somaliland
There is actually even no incentive for dhulbahante to be sharing a country with Italian Somalia they will never be chooosen for the top sea there in the bunker The prime
Minister position will either go for majeerteenia marexaaan even Ogaden who have one degmo inside Somalia have secured the premier position. It’s not actually in the interest of dhulbahante to be thrown inside Somalia. And I don’t think hawiye really cares for them or want them to be part of them . Hawiye wants isaaqs to be part of Somalia and that’s why there can’t be fundamental understanding I think darood ba ka dhow when dealing with Somalia and Somaliland issue they have more balls and dare and are bold to adresss the issue. We should stick to our boundaries we inherited from our great queen Elisabeth may she rest in peace salute . Always stick to ur guns we should occupy garowe and for us to leave nu gaal somalia should allow a Somaliland embassy in Mogadishu that’s the only way the same way anwar Sadat got back the sinai when Israel occupied sinai and got it only back when Egypt recognise the existence of the state of Israel the one and only Jewish state inn the world . Only then should we leave nu gaal

[Isseayaanle]

People make difference. Go Compare Israel to Congo. Both puntland and somaliland climate is dry arid climate. Except few pockets. The unification brings sustainable stability and development. Don't pass your problems to your future offspring. We must solve our problems right now. We only have these 4 options

1. They give up and remove our eastern people from their Constitution
2. We give up and let their harti go
3. We declare a real war on them , I am not talking about few skirmishes but a real destructive one , with a clear winner . And be permanent enemies for life.
4. We both compromise and put the whole shit together. Create a new progressive society and hopefully be the founding fathers of real Somali unity in the future.

Some one has to pay the price of the first 3 options. We have nothing to loose if we take Last option.

Best thing to do is a conference with Mogadishu gov and international stakeholders, we give up our darod minorities in eastern sool and eastern sanaag and Somalia gives us recognition, it’s a win win situation for all.

I don’t think hawiye really cares much for eastern sool and eastern sanaag. Not even marexaan care about it
This deal would have worked if hawiye actually cared for more darood inside Italian Somalia it’s only majeerteenia that cares for it the vast majority of dhulbahante are on the side of somaliland it’s just the wasakhgali who oppose somaliland
There is actually even no incentive for dhulbahante to be sharing a country with Italian Somalia they will never be chooosen for the top sea there in the bunker The prime
Minister position will either go for majeerteenia marexaaan even Ogaden who have one degmo inside Somalia have secured the premier position. It’s not actually in the interest of dhulbahante to be thrown inside Somalia. And I don’t think hawiye really cares for them or want them to be part of them . Hawiye wants isaaqs to be part of Somalia and that’s why there can’t be fundamental understanding I think darood ba ka dhow when dealing with Somalia and Somaliland issue they have more balls and dare and are bold to adresss the issue. We should stick to our boundaries we inherited from our great queen Elisabeth may she rest in peace salute . Always stick to ur guns we should occupy garowe and for us to leave nu gaal somalia should allow a Somaliland embassy in Mogadishu that’s the only way the same way anwar Sadat got back the sinai when Israel occupied sinai and got it only back when Egypt recognise the existence of the state of Israel the one and only Jewish state inn the world . Only then should we leave nu gaal

And this thinking is the reason why the triangle project has NOT been recognized and will never be. Hutus, Daarod, Awdal and southerners Somalis don’t care about this project and only Habar awal/Jeclo do NOT even Graxaajis. Imagine calling the people you want to share a country Waskhgali. Idoors are only panicking now because they realized: Their beloved hutu friends said Fuckoff and Daarods want nothing to do with them as well as Awdal. Also, Maxmud Saleeban have too much pride to subject themselves for Idoors. Best option is to do confederation or suffer with hutus like the rest of us.

[Khalid Ali]

We don’t need other Somalis
Somaliland is based on the principles of the Sadat Nation
And wasakhtallis don’t really care much for them either I am only interested in the land I will ship all the wasakhgalis to bosaaso for all I care they are only three percent of somaliland popoulation and what makes u think I care for Mogadishu and hawiye as long as hawiye stay in their land I have no issue with them or care for their bunker wish them all the best luck in life garxajis awal jeclo Arab ayub toljecle the isaaq Yemenis and the samaroon and ciise are all my concern we care only for somaliland and jabuuti those two countries we don’t care mandheerteen or other jebertis

[Isseayaanle]

We don’t need other Somalis
Somaliland is based on the principles of the Sadat Nation
And wasakhtallis don’t really care much for them either I am only interested in the land I will ship all the wasakhgalis to bosaaso for all I care they are only three percent of somaliland popoulation and what makes u think I care for Mogadishu and hawiye as long as hawiye stay in their land I have no issue with them or care for their bunker wish them all the best luck in life garxajis awal jeclo Arab ayub toljecle the isaaq Yemenis and the samaroon and ciise are all my concern we care only for somaliland and jabuuti those two countries we don’t care mandheerteen or other jebertis

You do care and it’s the reason this very threat has been created. Not only do you need Daarod and Awdal but southerners too. Too much sucking to white peoples have gotten y’all nowhere. Even Tuur and Egaal said Somaliland Best Hope is federalism with the south. Calaacal all you want.

[SunFromNorth]

We don’t need other Somalis
Somaliland is based on the principles of the Sadat Nation
And wasakhtallis don’t really care much for them either I am only interested in the land I will ship all the wasakhgalis to bosaaso for all I care they are only three percent of somaliland popoulation and what makes u think I care for Mogadishu and hawiye as long as hawiye stay in their land I have no issue with them or care for their bunker wish them all the best luck in life garxajis awal jeclo Arab ayub toljecle the isaaq Yemenis and the samaroon and ciise are all my concern we care only for somaliland and jabuuti those two countries we don’t care mandheerteen or other jebertis

You do care and it’s the reason this very threat has been created. Not only do you need Daarod and Awdal but southerners too. Too much sucking to white peoples have gotten y’all nowhere. Even Tuur and Egaal said Somaliland Best Hope is federalism with the south. Calaacal all you want.

Tuur went as far as becoming General Aideeds vicepresident in 1995 in Xamar and acting as if Somalialand was non-existing

[theyuusuf143]

Qodobkaa odhanaya hawiyhu reer waqooyiga ay doonayan waa isaaqa. Waa qodob laysku wada waafaqsanahay. Hawiye ma rabo dhulbahante, dhulbahante na ma rabo qadaadweyn markay bahashu run run tagto . Xaga koonfur nacaybka iskaga mid baanu nahay yaga laakiin lama dareemoo markay hawiyaha Ku tufayan jaakedd Ka CBB day soo xidhaan " mooryaan, hawiye futo madoobe, tuug , dawlad diid , guryahad dhacdeen soo celiya" waxaas bay Ku afrogaan.

Dhulbahante qolada keliya ee uu qadaadweyn qaawanida kula hadla waa Majeerteen, laakiin Mareexaanka way jecel yihiin. Anaguna habar gidir taanu jecel nahay. Waa history dheer. Yagu marexaan waxay isu jecel yihiin isku faqash bay ahaayen, anaguna habar gidir ta waxaanu u jecelnahay isku S tii baanu ahayn .

[Isseayaanle]

We don’t need other Somalis
Somaliland is based on the principles of the Sadat Nation
And wasakhtallis don’t really care much for them either I am only interested in the land I will ship all the wasakhgalis to bosaaso for all I care they are only three percent of somaliland popoulation and what makes u think I care for Mogadishu and hawiye as long as hawiye stay in their land I have no issue with them or care for their bunker wish them all the best luck in life garxajis awal jeclo Arab ayub toljecle the isaaq Yemenis and the samaroon and ciise are all my concern we care only for somaliland and jabuuti those two countries we don’t care mandheerteen or other jebertis

You do care and it’s the reason this very threat has been created. Not only do you need Daarod and Awdal but southerners too. Too much sucking to white peoples have gotten y’all nowhere. Even Tuur and Egaal said Somaliland Best Hope is federalism with the south. Calaacal all you want.

Tuur went as far as becoming General Aideeds vicepresident in 1995 in Xamar and acting as if Somalialand was non-existing

Exactly! They want to whitewash history.

[Isseayaanle]

Qodobkaa odhanaya hawiyhu reer waqooyiga ay doonayan waa isaaqa. Waa qodob laysku wada waafaqsanahay. Hawiye ma rabo dhulbahante, dhulbahante na ma rabo qadaadweyn markay bahashu run run tagto . Xaga koonfur nacaybka iskaga mid baanu nahay yaga laakiin lama dareemoo markay hawiyaha Ku tufayan jaakedd Ka CBB day soo xidhaan " mooryaan, hawiye futo madoobe, tuug , dawlad diid , guryahad dhacdeen soo celiya" waxaas bay Ku afrogaan.

Dhulbahante qolada keliya ee uu qadaadweyn qaawanida kula hadla waa Majeerteen, laakiin Mareexaanka way jecel yihiin. Anaguna habar gidir taanu jecel nahay. Waa history dheer. Yagu marexaan waxay isu jecel yihiin isku faqash bay ahaayen, anaguna habar gidir ta waxaanu u jecelnahay isku S tii baanu ahayn .

Nigga stop beating around the bush and admit that the truth is the only reason Hutus and Idoors pretend to like each other is fear of Daarod. With regards of Hutu recognition of Somaliland, they won’t do it because they benefit from the status quo and they want nothing to distrupt that.