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skywalker25 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:18 am
BestP wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:02 am General Duufle

Do not misquote me Iidoor mongrel.

I said almost a third of iidoor population dwell in Ethiopia. I can backup my estimation with a close study of iidoor clan structure.For instance, the dominant iidoor groups are from Ethiopia .The Laangaab Habar Xabuusho are the only tiny iidoors in Hawd.



1.Largest HY sub clan (Xirsi Cisman)
2.Largest Arab sub clan (Haashim)
3.Largest Ciidagale sub clans (Dhamal and Abokor Muse)
4.Largest Sacad Muuse sub clan (Cabdalle Siciid)

All the above sub clans reside in Ethiopia which means almost a third of iidoors are Ethiopians.Go liberate your folks and help them to join Somaliland and I will then take your argument serious.

With regard to the hatred, Iidoors are the pot calling the kettle black! Ogaden don't hate on the Somali.They don't intend to weaken Somalia through secession like the ignoble iidoors.They don't discriminate against other Somali sections but iidoor displaced Raahwayn,call names other Somalis out of deep-seated aversion.

As a perpetrators of terror and division among the Somali, Iidoor planted shabaab in the south to sacrifice innocent Somali blood for their skewed Itiraaf ambitions.Simply put Iidoors are despicable haters of the Somali people.

To put the nail in the coffin, idoor poets trespassed all limits by calling Raahwayn clan swines !
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You are a dumb cagdheer. You cannot compare yourself to man who wants to stay in his house and be vigilant (iidoor)to a rented prostitute who's always ready for the highest bidder, that does self harm every ones in awhile. We different us. You are low class street hooker not even high class. I'm working with people to further my interests. You are no different to your ancestors, just dumb. They were happy to be slaves and you are happy to be a slave today. Tell your reason again? Don't bother it doesn't change anything.
My ancestors were feared and respected by your British masters.My ancestors were known for their unmatched bravery in the battlefield as they lead the great Somali expansion to south. They indeed bequeathed us a vast territory adorned with rich noble history.

On the other hand, the Iidoors are known as Gaalo stooges ,the darling of the British who idolized the late queen Elizabeth.Without a doubt Iidoors are regarded as least noble Somali clan alive.

Dufan-jeceshu waa waatay kufriga,deris ahaayeen e

Read the description of the ignoble Iidoor by one of your beloved 'mujahids'
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Leeleeshe gaaladu haddaanay kugu lamaanaanin
Adba ilama aad loolateen, oo lilaahiya e
Libna iga wallaad haysteen ,labanna maasheen e "

Cilmi Carab (Dhulbaante,Jaamac Siyaad)

"Hadaan gaalku noo dilin, Isaaq deleb ma maaleen dheh "
INA DAGE (Ogaaden ,Rer Cabdille,Rer Warfaa)


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n yet idoor still occupies ex cagderland villages. sure italy jelped u take back a few. ur missing whole lot. whatever idoor is, idoor is ur conqueror
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Noer

Your beloved colonizer respected and feared Ogaden bravery.Meanwhile, the British protected Isaaq clans were subject to ridicule and dehuminizing treatment like carrying the whiteman on their shoulders in both Berbera and Shiikh. :lol:
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"Waxa Ogaadeenku ahaa jilib ka mid ah qoyska Daaroodka ah. Qoyskaas oo hormuud u ahaa markii ay Soomaalidu u soo hayaamaysay dhanka Koonfureed ee Jubbooyinka. Goobtaas oo berigii dambe noqotay maxmiyad ingiriis, Ogaadeenku se ay diideen inay aqoonsadaan sheegashadii Ingiriisku dhulkaas maamul ahaan u sheeganayay.

Waxa ay (Ogaadeenku) ku tilmaannaayeen Musliminiin xagjir ah. Waxa kale oo ay caan ku ahaayeen dagaalyahannimadooda iyo dareenka joogta ah ay ka qabeen Yurubiyaanka.

Xamaasadda iyo hab-dhaqankooda reer guuraannimo, iyo qaabka ay u dagaallamaan ee ku dhisan weerarrada kadiska ah iyo durba dib u gurashada ka sii kadisan, waxa ay intaasoo dhan oo is biirsadayi ka dhigayeen Ogaadeenka, geesi halis leh. Aqoonta ay u leeyihiin dhulkooda lama-degaanka ah, iyo sida ay u yihiin dad u lugayn kara masaafo fog, iyaga oo sahay yar wata, ayaa keenaysay inay Ingiriiska iyo maamulkiisaba ku noqdaan laf dhuun gashay."
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"Ogaden, of whom the Aulihan were a part, as one of the most formidable fighting tribes in Africa because of their mobility with their ponies, remarkable endurance, and the skill with which they wielded their spears."
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BestP wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:18 pm Noer

Your beloved colonizer respected and feared Ogaden bravery.Meanwhile, the British protected Isaaq clans were subject to ridicule and dehuminizing treatment like carrying the whiteman on their shoulders in both Berbera and Shiikh. :lol:
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"Waxa Ogaadeenku ahaa jilib ka mid ah qoyska Daaroodka ah. Qoyskaas oo hormuud u ahaa markii ay Soomaalidu u soo hayaamaysay dhanka Koonfureed ee Jubbooyinka. Goobtaas oo berigii dambe noqotay maxmiyad ingiriis, Ogaadeenku se ay diideen inay aqoonsadaan sheegashadii Ingiriisku dhulkaas maamul ahaan u sheeganayay.

Waxa ay (Ogaadeenku) ku tilmaannaayeen Musliminiin xagjir ah. Waxa kale oo ay caan ku ahaayeen dagaalyahannimadooda iyo dareenka joogta ah ay ka qabeen Yurubiyaanka.

Xamaasadda iyo hab-dhaqankooda reer guuraannimo, iyo qaabka ay u dagaallamaan ee ku dhisan weerarrada kadiska ah iyo durba dib u gurashada ka sii kadisan, waxa ay intaasoo dhan oo is biirsadayi ka dhigayeen Ogaadeenka, geesi halis leh. Aqoonta ay u leeyihiin dhulkooda lama-degaanka ah, iyo sida ay u yihiin dad u lugayn kara masaafo fog, iyaga oo sahay yar wata, ayaa keenaysay inay Ingiriiska iyo maamulkiisaba ku noqdaan laf dhuun gashay."
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"Ogaden, of whom the Aulihan were a part, as one of the most formidable fighting tribes in Africa because of their mobility with their ponies, remarkable endurance, and the skill with which they wielded their spears."



doctored pic. cagder changed the caption. changed seyla' to berber


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jabutawi. the stealth cagder obsessed wit idoor while pretending to be issa :ufdup: i'm just showing the lengths cagder would go to avenge what i did to him in the hawd. the issa tribe are good people. idoor n issa got no beefs


but seriously. do you wanna compare cagder primitives' history to idoor?


i heard idoor civilized idoor. taught 'em how to read n write. the kur'an. the so called mad mullah relied more on dolbahanta n some idoors more than the cagder. the mullah's daughter was cursing the men of her tribe as arsi oromo forced marriage

this nigga wants to compare idoor history to cagder who just left prehistory


michael mariano. good idoor man. who reverted to islam later in life. here is what he said about cagder chiefs begging to be subjugated by emperor Haile Selasie

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83 of the top cagder tribal chiefs :snoop: telling the ww2 victors that cagderland fervently want to be subjects of haile selasie
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Damn.....you guys going at it. :ohhh:
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Ogaden resisted the colonial British both in Galbeed and Koonfur while Iidoors were seemingly happy to be colonial subjects :lol:

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Meanwhile , Idoor poet(Barkhad Cas) lamented about the BRITISH ADOONSI on his tribesman.

Awawgay ninkii adoonsaday
ninkii aabahay indhaha tiray

ninkii anigana i iibsaday
hadaan arkayoonan ka aarsan karayn
hadaanan Aadanow unuunka jarayn
aan ooyee albaabka ii xidha.

Isagoo ENGLAND joogabuu i diloo
ushuu soo fidshaa i iimaysoo
waataa aramidii i oofa tirtaye
itaal dari aan la eedaadoo
aan ooyee albaabka ii xidha.



And not forget, the Iidoors were kept in human Zoos

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Le pays. - Tous les Somalis du Jardin d’Acclimatation proviennent de cette partie de la côte africaine qui se trouve exactement au-dessus d’Aden, ils appartiennent aux tribus Habr-Auel, Habr-Junis, Habr-Gerhadjis, Habr-Toldjaleh, Dolbohanta, etc. Mais les Somalis, en général, occupent un territoire beaucoup plus vaste, car ils sont répandus sur toute la surface de cette pointe nord-est du continent africain, qui touche, d’un côté au golfe d’Aden, et de l’autre à l’océan Indien.
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Gruppe schöner Negerinnen aus Somaliland
Translated: Group clean female niggers out Somaliland.
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emperor selassie teaching proper manners to rer abdulle


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are my eyes decieving me or does he look like he just beat the sh** out of a few cagder kids wit his royal scepter or that stick in his hand? cagderti qawananjirtay o xidhay shadh iyo cagagab u idoor ka ibiyay :pac: niggas is so impressed wit how they dressed up for his ethopian majesty

n then the cagder elders



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this is almost as bad as governor iley crying over meles corpse




iley: cagder dhamanten wahanu nahay meles :mindblown: stockholm syndrome
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The weak British protected Iidoor clans were kept in Human Zoos :lol:
Le pays. - Tous les Somalis du Jardin d’Acclimatation proviennent de cette partie de la côte africaine qui se trouve exactement au-dessus d’Aden, ils appartiennent aux tribus Habr-Auel, Habr-Junis, Habr-Gerhadjis, Habr-Toldjaleh, etc. Mais les Somalis, en général, occupent un territoire beaucoup plus vaste, car ils sont répandus sur toute la surface de cette pointe nord-est du continent africain, qui touche, d’un côté au golfe d’Aden, et de l’autre à l’océan Indien.


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Gruppe schöner Negerinnen aus Somaliland
Translated: Group clean female niggers out Somaliland.
Iidoor dagaal nalama galin, dab iyo baaruude
Dufan-jeceshu waatay kufriga, daris ahaayeene


Meanwhile, Ogaden Warriors butchered Habesha,Whiteman as well as the ignoble Iidoors

❞𝘽𝙞𝙨𝙝𝙞𝙞 𝙎𝙚𝙥𝙩𝙚𝙢𝙗𝙚𝙧, 1915’𝙠𝙞𝙞 𝙖𝙮𝙖𝙖 𝙍𝙚𝙚𝙧 𝘾𝙖𝙡𝙞 𝙬𝙖𝙭𝙖𝙮 𝙡𝙖𝙖𝙮𝙚𝙚𝙣 𝙗𝙤𝙦𝙤𝙡 𝙣𝙞𝙣 𝙤𝙤 𝙓𝙖𝙗𝙖𝙨𝙝𝙞 𝙖𝙝 𝙤𝙤 𝙜𝙞𝙗𝙞𝙧-𝙙𝙤𝙤𝙣 𝙖𝙝𝙖𝙮𝙙. 𝙒𝙖𝙭𝙖𝙮 𝙠𝙖 𝙠𝙤𝙤𝙗𝙣𝙖𝙖𝙮𝙚𝙚𝙣 140 𝙣𝙞𝙣, 𝙬𝙖𝙭𝙖𝙖 𝙨𝙚 𝙠𝙖 𝙗𝙖𝙙𝙗𝙖𝙖𝙙𝙙𝙖𝙮 40 𝙣𝙞𝙣 𝙤𝙤 𝙦𝙪𝙙𝙝 𝙖𝙝. 𝙏𝙖𝙛𝙖𝙧𝙞 𝙖𝙮𝙖𝙖 𝙙𝙖𝙗𝙖𝙙𝙚𝙚𝙙 𝙙𝙞𝙮𝙖𝙖𝙧𝙨𝙖𝙙𝙖𝙮 𝙠𝙪𝙢𝙖𝙣𝙖𝙖𝙣 𝙘𝙞𝙞𝙙𝙖𝙣𝙠𝙞𝙞𝙨𝙞𝙞 𝙖𝙝 𝙨𝙞 𝙪𝙪 𝙍𝙚𝙚𝙧 𝘾𝙖𝙡𝙞 𝙪𝙜𝙖 𝙨𝙤𝙤 𝙖𝙖𝙧𝙤 𝙜𝙪𝙩𝙤. 𝙄𝙣𝙜𝙞𝙧𝙞𝙞𝙨𝙠𝙞𝙞 𝘽𝙚𝙧𝙗𝙚𝙧𝙖 𝙟𝙤𝙤𝙜𝙖𝙮𝙣𝙖 𝙬𝙖𝙭𝙖𝙮 𝙙𝙞𝙮𝙖𝙖𝙧 𝙜𝙖𝙧𝙚𝙚𝙮𝙚𝙚𝙣 𝙘𝙞𝙞𝙙𝙖𝙣𝙠𝙤𝙤𝙙𝙞𝙞 𝙧𝙪𝙠𝙪𝙪𝙗𝙡𝙚𝙮𝙙𝙖 𝙖𝙝𝙖𝙖, 𝙨𝙞 𝙍𝙚𝙚𝙧 𝘾𝙖𝙡𝙞 𝙟𝙞𝙙𝙜𝙤𝙤𝙮𝙤 𝙡𝙤𝙤𝙜𝙪 𝙙𝙝𝙞𝙜𝙤 𝙭𝙖𝙙𝙠𝙖 𝙈𝙖𝙭𝙢𝙞𝙮𝙖𝙙𝙙𝙖 𝘽𝙧𝙞𝙩𝙞𝙨𝙝 𝙎𝙤𝙢𝙖𝙡𝙞𝙡𝙖𝙣𝙙, 𝙝𝙖𝙙𝙙𝙞𝙞 𝙖𝙮 𝙙𝙝𝙖𝙣𝙠𝙖𝙖𝙨 𝙙𝙞𝙗-𝙪-𝙜𝙪𝙧𝙪𝙨𝙝𝙤 𝙪 𝙖𝙖𝙙𝙖𝙖𝙣❞.
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theyuusuf143 wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:19 am
balwarama wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:49 am
theyuusuf143 wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:21 am Sharmake ruled both berbera and zeilac. He was pretty much in control of the whole somaliland coast and it's trade routes.

In peacetime you where relying on them to trade your commodities. In wartime you were under their mercy. They even pushed you beyond the River shabeelle. The fact that you can pass their territory shows you how effective sharmaarke was to create peaceful atmosphere for trading . It's not because habaryonis feared you .

1. Sharmaarke Saalax was not Habaryoonis Chief
2. He was a Habaryoonis, lone wolf hustler who for however or reason, made personal connections with and gained the trust of the Sharif of Mokha
3. He had no influence, outside Zeila
4. Berbera up to Bulohar was a Habar Awal, nomads area of influence
5. The Edoor were able to defeat us in early 20th century because the English armed them with modern weapons which we did not have at the time
He was rich powerful man , I didn't say he was cheif of habaryonis , in fact we Isaaqs don't give much importance to clan leaders, even today our traditional leaders are clowns. Cumaamada hunguriga nala galee ma cisayno. I repeat sharmake ruled both zeila and berbera even Djibouti. And I think he defenitly had influence in maydh because he was muse carre , his own raas owns there. I still don't understand what are you trying to achieve here ?

Did the ogaaden were nomadic yes they were. Who controled somaliland ports and trade , of course isaaq , siiba sharmaarke . Even the book you posted confirms that. Waar waad naga dhaadheerayden , naagihiinuna wada iman oo kale bay bay ahayen, taasaa runee . Ogaadenaw ilbaxnimo buuga idiinkuma taal :lol:
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theyuusuf143 wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:41 am
balwarama wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:53 am This is what Lt C.J.Cruttenden wrote about Ogaden, Caravans in Berbera. 1848

The kafilas from the banks of the " Webbe " Shebeyli, from
the small province of Gananeh to the south of the above river,
and from Ogahden, pass through the country of the Habev
Gerhajis on their way to Berbera. Excepting the slave-
kafila from Abyssinia, these are the most valuable caravans of
the season, bringing ivory from the Galla triVjes of Sidama,
south of the Webbe Gananeh, ostrich feathers, myrrh, and
frankincense. They frequently exceed 2000 camels in number,
and are well guarded by the men of Ogahden, who may always
be recognised amidst the crowd at Berbera, by the red colour
of their robes, produced, as they all declare, by the fine red dust
peculiar to their country
I don't really understand what kind of validation you are looking for. It says the cagdheer were the second most important customers of Berbera after Abyssinians. Even today 2023 it's still the same.
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GacankaCadmeed wrote: Sat Jan 28, 2023 4:23 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:41 am
balwarama wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:53 am This is what Lt C.J.Cruttenden wrote about Ogaden, Caravans in Berbera. 1848

The kafilas from the banks of the " Webbe " Shebeyli, from
the small province of Gananeh to the south of the above river,
and from Ogahden, pass through the country of the Habev
Gerhajis on their way to Berbera. Excepting the slave-
kafila from Abyssinia, these are the most valuable caravans of
the season, bringing ivory from the Galla triVjes of Sidama,
south of the Webbe Gananeh, ostrich feathers, myrrh, and
frankincense. They frequently exceed 2000 camels in number,
and are well guarded by the men of Ogahden, who may always
be recognised amidst the crowd at Berbera, by the red colour
of their robes, produced, as they all declare, by the fine red dust
peculiar to their country
I don't really understand what kind of validation you are looking for. It says the cagdheer were the second most important customers of Berbera after Abyssinians. Even today 2023 it's still the same.
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