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Why didn't Deni do this before he ran for president of Somalia? munaafiq weeye deni and in the words of CBB, "loo joojin maayo"
Somalia will move forward, let those who want to isolate themselves do so.
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Mrsinister

One man's villain is another man's hero.

I oppose HSM for corruption and nepotism, you decided to go against that saying it is his right, now you are going against HSM for acting as President of Somalia, you seem to be against his presidential powers.

From my perspective you reasoning is illegitimate, but the key difference between us is I would not go out of my way to dismiss you reasoning to now oppose HSM, I would say better late than never.
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eliteSomali wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 1:35 am Why didn't Deni do this before he ran for president of Somalia? munaafiq weeye deni and in the words of CBB, "loo joojin maayo"
Somalia will move forward, let those who want to isolate themselves do so.
Aad iyo aad. Deni is acting like a kid nac nac lo diiday. :lol:
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AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:14 am
eliteSomali wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 1:35 am Why didn't Deni do this before he ran for president of Somalia? munaafiq weeye deni and in the words of CBB, "loo joojin maayo"
Somalia will move forward, let those who want to isolate themselves do so.
Aad iyo aad. Deni is acting like a kid nac nac lo diiday. :lol:
"Hangaraarac lug uma dhutiyo". Somalia will move forward just fine without PL or anyone else who wishes to act like a dhoocil yar looking for attention. The agenda should remain the same. Get rid of Alshabab and develop the country.

Now we will know if HSM has truly learned from the past. No cajoling or appeasing spoilers. Let them be and get busy with your agendas.

This could be a blessing in disguise!
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theyuusuf143 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 12:40 am These dhabayaco secessionists are more threat to Somalia than alshabaab. Somali peaple should support us against them.

XILDHIBAAN SHAADH iyo Yuusuf isku hadal ekaa.Waa wiil iyo adeerkii oo sida caruurta u wada sheekeeya :lol: :lol:

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Madaxweyne xasan shiikh waanu u hambalyayn , laakiin waxaanu leenahay reer ahaan nagu sii daa iriir baa laysku keen yidhaahdaa ummaduna waa irir iyo daarood, daroodna waa na xiijiyay guryahayagii iyo dadkayagii buu laayay hawiyow maanta noo hiili oo nasiida"
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BestP wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:12 am
theyuusuf143 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 12:40 am These dhabayaco secessionists are more threat to Somalia than alshabaab. Somali peaple should support us against them.

XILDHIBAAN SHAADH iyo Yuusuf isku hadal ekaa.Waa wiil iyo adeerkii oo sida caruurta u wada sheekeeya :lol: :lol:

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Madaxweyne xasan shiikh waanu u hambalyayn , laakiin waxaanu leenahay reer ahaan nagu sii daa iriir baa laysku keen yidhaahdaa ummaduna waa irir iyo daarood, daroodna waa na xiijiyay guryahayagii iyo dadkayagii buu laayay hawiyow maanta noo hiili oo nasiida"
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Here is the English translation. Until the constitution is finished, Puntland will continue to be autonomous state and deal directly with the international community. No more uselsss meetings in Mogadishu with people who are not interested in moving the country foreword.

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mahoka wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:36 am
BestP wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:12 am
theyuusuf143 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 12:40 am These dhabayaco secessionists are more threat to Somalia than alshabaab. Somali peaple should support us against them.

XILDHIBAAN SHAADH iyo Yuusuf isku hadal ekaa.Waa wiil iyo adeerkii oo sida caruurta u wada sheekeeya :lol: :lol:

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Madaxweyne xasan shiikh waanu u hambalyayn , laakiin waxaanu leenahay reer ahaan nagu sii daa iriir baa laysku keen yidhaahdaa ummaduna waa irir iyo daarood, daroodna waa na xiijiyay guryahayagii iyo dadkayagii buu laayay hawiyow maanta noo hiili oo nasiida"
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Yusuf speaks for hj not isaaq
Who asks you who speaks for us? Is Yusuf not Isaaq or HJ not Isaaq?

You made a topic about that fat pig from jabouti praising him. Let me tell you, we would never - as HJ- pimp our women.
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skywalker25 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:59 am
mahoka wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:36 am
BestP wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:12 am


XILDHIBAAN SHAADH iyo Yuusuf isku hadal ekaa.Waa wiil iyo adeerkii oo sida caruurta u wada sheekeeya :lol: :lol:

"
Madaxweyne xasan shiikh waanu u hambalyayn , laakiin waxaanu leenahay reer ahaan nagu sii daa iriir baa laysku keen yidhaahdaa ummaduna waa irir iyo daarood, daroodna waa na xiijiyay guryahayagii iyo dadkayagii buu laayay hawiyow maanta noo hiili oo nasiida"
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Yusuf speaks for hj not isaaq
Who asks you who speaks for us? Is Yusuf not Isaaq or HJ not Isaaq?

You made a topic about that fat pig from jabouti praising him. Let me tell you, we would never - as HJ- pimp our women.

I want hj to speak for themselves, HA to speak for themselves

Your cousin Yusuf is embarrassing isaaq by one min begging hawiye to help us against darod and the next claiming we are dir, I got no issues if he doesn’t include us in those equations. I have yet to see you call our your cousin yusuf for the embarrassing statements he makes - he is always invoking irir against tiny poor weak darod - cajiib, you try to come after me for calling out such statements which is waali caadiya.
Can you tell me why Somaliland needs the help of Somalis against the tiny state of puntland, can you tell me why you are fine with these statements?


As for pimping our women I assume you are talking about IOG wife, she is reer Djibouti, SM tribe lives in 3 countries. Ciise is our neighbours and we got no issues with them, your dhulo neighbours who you breed with has so much hate for you it’s funny while my neighbours samaroon and ciise doesn’t give me any trouble.
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I fully support PL going it's own way, as the situation is now xal umaha umada PL sida hada video aan fiirsaday odayashi as aasay PL wuxu yiri sidan dan ma aha wa inan xal helna oo dawlada dhexe iyo madaxda PL la dhexgalo oo cida khalad ka leh la cadeeyo hadi Deni Khaldan yahay eeda la saaro
Hadi FG khalad ka leedahay oo ila hada 3 dex madaxweyne dastuurka dhamays tirin madaxdi PL khilaf ku wadan 20 sano wa in aynu go'ona
Aniga waxan leeyahay PL gaar ha u baxdo oo waqti dame hadi la isku so hiloobo ba la isku so noqon
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mahoka wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:33 am
skywalker25 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:59 am
mahoka wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:36 am
Yusuf speaks for hj not isaaq
Who asks you who speaks for us? Is Yusuf not Isaaq or HJ not Isaaq?

You made a topic about that fat pig from jabouti praising him. Let me tell you, we would never - as HJ- pimp our women.

I want hj to speak for themselves, HA to speak for themselves

Your cousin Yusuf is embarrassing isaaq by one min begging hawiye to help us against darod and the next claiming we are dir, I got no issues if he doesn’t include us in those equations. I have yet to see you call our your cousin yusuf for the embarrassing statements he makes - he is always invoking irir against tiny poor weak darod - cajiib, you try to come after me for calling out such statements which is waali caadiya.
Can you tell me why Somaliland needs the help of Somalis against the tiny state of puntland, can you tell me why you are fine with these statements?
You know nothing about the horn politics , so shut up please and learn quietly . What do you know about hawiye ? What's more embarrassing than claiming ahlu bayt when you are black , DNA proves that you are not carab, and you don't even speak Arabic. Being Dir gives us leverage in politics , economy and security. Being ahlu bayt is fairytale and it contributes nothing to our existence.

If hawiye approve for the creation of daarood state inside somaliland , and they provide financial and military assistance , do you know that means a long war for me in multiple fronts. Rag dhiigood baad nabad hargeisa Ku joogta laxyey . What's wrong with approaching hawiye to secure a deal of non aggression from them.

Orodoo xinahaaga iska marso. Xaal aduun meel laysla marayaba war uma hayside. Qiso ruushka Ka dhacday , mar ay dadku roodhida jari waayeen , bay naagtii Tsar Ka ama boqorku waxay tidhi " oo may Cake gaba cunaan " Naagtaas baad la caqli tahay. :lol:
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theyuusuf143 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:17 am
mahoka wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:33 am
skywalker25 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:59 am

Who asks you who speaks for us? Is Yusuf not Isaaq or HJ not Isaaq?

You made a topic about that fat pig from jabouti praising him. Let me tell you, we would never - as HJ- pimp our women.

I want hj to speak for themselves, HA to speak for themselves

Your cousin Yusuf is embarrassing isaaq by one min begging hawiye to help us against darod and the next claiming we are dir, I got no issues if he doesn’t include us in those equations. I have yet to see you call our your cousin yusuf for the embarrassing statements he makes - he is always invoking irir against tiny poor weak darod - cajiib, you try to come after me for calling out such statements which is waali caadiya.
Can you tell me why Somaliland needs the help of Somalis against the tiny state of puntland, can you tell me why you are fine with these statements?
You know nothing about the horn politics , so shut up please and learn quietly . What do you know about hawiye ? What's more embarrassing than claiming ahlu bayt when you are black black, DNA proves that you are not carab, and you don't even speak Arabic. Being Dir gives us leverage in politics , economy and security. Being ahlu bayt is fairytale and it contributes nothing to our existence.

If hawiye approve for the creation of daarood state inside somaliland , and they provide financial and military assistance , do you know that means a long war for me in multiple fronts. Rag dhiigood nabad hargeisa Ku joogta laxyey . What's wrong with approaching hawiye to secure a deal of non aggression from them.

Orodoo xinahaaga iska marso. Xaal aduun meel laysla marayaba war uma hayside. Qiso ruushka Ka dhacday , mar ay dadku roodhida jari waayeen , bay naagtii Tsar Ka ama boqorku waxay tidhi " oo may Cake gaba " cunaan. Naagtaas baad la caqli tahay. :lol:

I'm not going to change who I am for political convenience. We are not like those nigerians who change names to fit in. Thats weak and a disgrace. We are Isaaq no more no less. No Hawiye or Darood or anything happening elsewhere will change this. We dont need no Hawiye and they don't need us. Lets keep our feet on the ground sir.
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skywalker25 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:21 am
theyuusuf143 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:17 am
mahoka wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:33 am


I want hj to speak for themselves, HA to speak for themselves

Your cousin Yusuf is embarrassing isaaq by one min begging hawiye to help us against darod and the next claiming we are dir, I got no issues if he doesn’t include us in those equations. I have yet to see you call our your cousin yusuf for the embarrassing statements he makes - he is always invoking irir against tiny poor weak darod - cajiib, you try to come after me for calling out such statements which is waali caadiya.
Can you tell me why Somaliland needs the help of Somalis against the tiny state of puntland, can you tell me why you are fine with these statements?
You know nothing about the horn politics , so shut up please and learn quietly . What do you know about hawiye ? What's more embarrassing than claiming ahlu bayt when you are black black, DNA proves that you are not carab, and you don't even speak Arabic. Being Dir gives us leverage in politics , economy and security. Being ahlu bayt is fairytale and it contributes nothing to our existence.

If hawiye approve for the creation of daarood state inside somaliland , and they provide financial and military assistance , do you know that means a long war for me in multiple fronts. Rag dhiigood nabad hargeisa Ku joogta laxyey . What's wrong with approaching hawiye to secure a deal of non aggression from them.

Orodoo xinahaaga iska marso. Xaal aduun meel laysla marayaba war uma hayside. Qiso ruushka Ka dhacday , mar ay dadku roodhida jari waayeen , bay naagtii Tsar Ka ama boqorku waxay tidhi " oo may Cake gaba " cunaan. Naagtaas baad la caqli tahay. :lol:

I'm not going to change who I am for political convenience. We are not like those nigerians who change names to fit in. Thats weak and a disgrace. We are Isaaq no more no less. No Hawiye or Darood or anything happening elsewhere will change this. We dont need no Hawiye and they don't need us. Lets keep our feet on the ground sir.

I didn't change anything , I stick to what I am backed by science . You are the ones who changed their whole Identity just to be related to the prophets family , you did that to seem noble and go to janno. I don't subscribe to that bullshit any more.
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Isaaaq have always said they are of imam Ali
In Richard Burtons book it says that emir sharmarke saleh Bashe wrote his abtitisi down to imam Ali for Richard to see that he is true ahlu bait and this is true and this was 1800s. The whole dir claim is freaking recent prior to 2000 arts isaaq had nothing to do with dir

As for hawiye. Hawiye are our political opponents not sure what they can do for us they and their darood brothers view somaliland the same hawiye calanka bluega uun ba lo qaada wat niikiinayaan. Hawiye wax isugu kaya jiro majirto and they don’t need us and we don’t need them
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Khalid Ali wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 12:26 pm Isaaaq have always said they are of imam Ali
In Richard Burtons book it says that emir sharmarke saleh Bashe wrote his abtitisi down to imam Ali for Richard to see that he is true ahlu bait and this is true and this was 1800s. The whole dir claim is freaking recent prior to 2000 arts isaaq had nothing to do with dir
Prove that scientifically . my ayeeyo who never lies , told me when I was child that humans can turn into hyenas "qori ismaris" you can pass bullshit to your offspring. But if you can't prove scientifically, and your DNA doesn't match the DNA of the of other proved Hassan and husseens , or generally quraysh , then your claim is fairytale. The whole Somali carab lineage is bogus.
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