There is no Marehan/Harti fighting in Las Anod. There is Dhulbahante in control over Las Anod never having lost it.

[Gubbet]

You want to push your spoiler?

Recall that on Somalispot, you claimed you are Marehan/Rer Dalal and your maternal side is Dhulbahante.

Well, the sub-clan background of both the single biggest contributing "businessman" as well as the committee chairman of the "working group" deputized to provision the material and logistical "package" delivered to Las Anod on behal of "Caabudwaaq & Galdogob" are both specifically "Rer Dalal" within Marehan and in general that sub-clan is the "liason" of Marehan for any participation in "war activities" which involve Harti or north of Gaalkacyo. They are the most hawkishly protective of any Marehan relationship with SSC in general.

And you happened to, once again, identify your maternal side is Dhulbahante.

It would be "odd" for a Reer Dalal to be speaking as you did even referencing rather ridiculously KDF crimes against Gedo without any comprehension on my part as to the basic relevance or link to Las Anod----but that a Rer Dalal with "Dhulbahante" uterine origins would do so takes odd to "outlandish" even "bizarre."

However, like I clearly projected out loud once before---I think it is more possible ---significantly even more probable that "Marehan" is your uterine origins and your paternal heritage is from a long , ntimately close but seriously estranged from neighbor of Marehan.

All your commentary decidedly and purposely inputted in this topic as a "spoiler" can simply be linked to the definition of the word "green-eyed."

It is manipulative resentment. Stop it. The fact that you even display it is unhealthy.

[Hulkujir]

They are close to u because they were the lackeys of afweyne despite being harti. That is what mahoka is saying and they were also the biggest failmaajo supporters cbbb

Dhulbahante who are against SL support every president in Xamar, you attempt there failed, and I get you want to make this an Isaaq taking on the big bad Darood but its not realistic mate, don't sprint before you can walk.

Politics aside blood is thicker than water, and the closest to Dhulbahante by isir and by ood is Ogaden and MJ, today is no different to the days of Ali Dhuux, if iidoor want to claim they are fighting Darood you have to physically be picking a fight with all the 5 sons of Darood not just Kablalax.

[Gubbet]

I should also say about the OD reference;

I do not care about OD. He neither has any effect or relavance to what I think about thousands of other human beings in Las Anod whose cause I support and feel a tremendous sense of responsibility for aiding and materializing and he does not effect what I choose to think, say, or do about it.

It is profoundly unlikeable that you even bring that into argumentation surrounding the serious and real gravity of what is Las Anod situation.

It is so unlikeable the disposition that found that relevant so as to make me even feel dismissive of the maturity underlying the basic caliber of that person.

This nonsense with you has bored me.

Good bye.

[Hulkujir]

You want to push your spoiler?

Recall that on Somalispot, you claimed you are Marehan/Rer Dalal and your maternal side is Dhulbahante.

Well, the sub-clan background of both the single biggest contributing "businessman" as well as the committee chairman of the "working group" deputized to provision the material and logistical "package" delivered to Las Anod on behal of "Caabudwaaq & Galdogob" are both specifically "Rer Dalal" within Marehan and in general that sub-clan is the "liason" of Marehan for any participation in "war activities" which involve Harti or north of Gaalkacyo. They are the most hawkishly protective of any Marehan relationship with SSC in general.

And you happened to, once again, identify your maternal side is Dhulbahante.

It would be "odd" for a Reer Dalal to be speaking as you did even referencing rather ridiculously KDF crimes against Gedo without any comprehension on my part as to the basic relevance or link to Las Anod----but that a Rer Dalal with "Dhulbahante" uterine origins would do so takes odd to "outlandish" even "bizarre."

However, like I clearly projected out loud once before---I think it is more possible ---significantly even more probable that "Marehan" is your uterine origins and your paternal heritage is from a long , ntimately close but seriously estranged from neighbor of Marehan.

All your commentary decidedly and purposely inputted in this topic as a "spoiler" can simply be linked to the definition of the word "green-eyed."

It is manipulative resentment. Stop it. The fact that you even display it is unhealthy.

supporting peace and stability instead of qabiil war is first call I would make, but if it has to come to qabiil war its insane to skip past Kablalax and go straight to Darood, making iidoor out be underdogs fighting with valor against all Darood, miss me with that, its a fair fight between the 3 habros and Kablalax.

[Hulkujir]

I should also say about the OD reference;

I do not care about OD. He neither has any effect or relavance to what I think about thousands of other human beings in Las Anod whose cause I support and feel a tremendous sense of responsibility for aiding and materializing and he does not effect what I choose to think, say, or do about it.

It is profoundly unlikeable that you even bring that into argumentation surrounding the serious and real gravity of what is Las Anod situation.

It is so unlikeable the disposition that found that relevant so as to make me even feel dismissive of the maturity underlying the basic caliber of that person.

This nonsense with you has bored me.

Good bye.

Are you alright bro

this is online discussion forum you seem to take things personally, I disagree with you but I support your right to your stance and it has its place in discussion, its not even a contentious disagreement.

[original dervish]

I really don't know why folk are tying themselves in knots justifying their stance on the SSC war.

We are fighting an irrir alliance , Djibouti, SL and tacit support of HSM.

We are essentially alone......but its ok.
The iidoor militias are suffering catastrophic casualties.
The SSC liberation forces have complete control of Lascaanood.

Tyrant Bixi has been reduced to shelling the town from 7km away.

[Gubbet]

There needs to be a clarification about this fact.

1. Dhulbahante has not asked for Darod fighters. No one has gone to Boqor Burhan in Bari. No one has gone to Caabudwaaq as some have hinted.

2. People go on Sahan when they are in dire straits---such as after suffering a setback or pressure that cannot be overcome alone. And they only go to call to attention when others are not aware of their circumstance.

A. Dhulbahante has not lost Las Anod. They have not even ceded an inch. They are the ones who have won the clashes so far. They have moved out of Las Anod and gained ground.

B. Every single pair of Somali eyes are not only aware of this situation but are following it in real time. No group of people are watching this even with the level of sustained focus and attention to detail as Darod.

3. Essentially Dhulbahante are winning a war that is important for them to win AS "Dhulbahante." They faced Muuse's attack. They stopped it. They overpowered it. They have chased it even back.

4.;Dhulbahante has not asked for fighters from any community. They were most closest to asking and Darod was most closest to sending BEFORE the first clash BEFORE Dhulbahante established he could take on Muuse.


4.5. However, and within perfectly understandable and even acceptable circumstances, Dhulbahante needed logistical support. He is not short on that as I have shown with the Marehan and Layl Kase support sent just two days ago with all kinds of similarl I am sure Harti and Majeerteen are providing him.

5. Fighting a DEFENSIVE WAR is not just about victory in the "moment." That is not even more than half of the "victory." The other half is DETERRENCE. You must be victorious on the battle field in such a way to establish a deterrence for the future.

6. Some of the most emotionally invested people in the Darod story at this time with the results of the battlefields so far are responding to the strategic threat posed by Dhulbahante instituting that "DETERRENCE." I would even argue this is emotionally unpalatable and existentially threatening for some.

7. Dhulbahante has been challenged. He has spectacularly prosecuted that challenge in such a way that so far leaves no doubt about the relevance of the "deterrence" he has implicated himself in putting down.

8. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT AND VITAL FOR HIM TO DO SO SINGULARLY AND INDEPENDENTLY.

9. If the circumstances change, Darod are all watching this intimately and all of them instinctively will "feel" it if their physical intervention is warranted.

10. Make 0 mistake ---the US "shelling" warning that just comes on the rolling 5th day is a "military" assessment that Dhulbahante is the "predicted" winner in the conflict and will even be "ascendent" over his affairs having "birthed" himself the forming "detterrance." They have reached the point to be confident about how this will all end before it has already ended and are establishing future relations with the new power over the disputed area. Wallahi.

P.S. 1 or two or individuals of non-Dhulbahante origins capable of being locals, extended family,etc who have been identified as fighting is also irrelevant to larger point about "community entities" not sharing any of the 100% ownership and credit Dhulbahante has implicated himself on the battlefield and ownership over his affairs.

Dhulbahante has established his DETERRENCE. Job well done.

[original dervish]

The iidoors have been cleansed from Tukaraq.
They are now holed up in Goojacaade.......like the caged rats they are.

[Gubbet]

Niyahow Gar Naqsi is something so serious I absolutely cannot and should not be allowed to speak for Dhullo. This is something that requires a Dhullo engagement.

What I will say is wallahi as God is my witness, I hold 0 malice, even any negative "feeling" towards Isaaq even as I write my support for Dhulbahante overcoming to preservere in this conflict IN Las Anod.

The worst possible conflict to observe is one where the strength of one's support for one side overcoming to persevere in it is as strong as one's sympathies for the other side in their implication in the conflict.

Wa arrin run ahaantii cajiib ah. I don't think I have ever observed such a "cajiib"moment as this in Somali politics apart from the moment the TFG in Mogadishu moment turned into "Ethiopia vs [primarily] Cayr".

Even the people who were most pro-TFG whether they supported Abdullahi Yusuf or wanted a government to set roots or were against the ICU and wanted them defeated---virtually all understand the moment had become "heavy" when it optically turned into "Ethio tanks vs Cayr/Somali clan."

Even Abdullahi Yusuf shut his mouth. He knew this was a godob moment.

Geedi was the single exception and to this day an entire clan cannot bear to look at him.

Whatever you have intended from the Somaliland side, the moment has turned into this.

It is the heaviness of the moment that must cause Muuse to deescalate and even stop.

It is the opposite of everything meant by why he would even continue in it.

Stop.

Stop.

Stop. Disengage.

Whatever happens afterwards will happen but you must accept you no longer have influence to compel it.

Stop now so where you have to walk from is not even longer and further than where you are now.

Ismilaahi raxmaani raxiim. This was a week into the war.

[Gubbet]

There needs to be a clarification about this fact.

1. Dhulbahante has not asked for Darod fighters. No one has gone to Boqor Burhan in Bari. No one has gone to Caabudwaaq as some have hinted.

2. People go on Sahan when they are in dire straits---such as after suffering a setback or pressure that cannot be overcome alone. And they only go to call to attention when others are not aware of their circumstance.

A. Dhulbahante has not lost Las Anod. They have not even ceded an inch. They are the ones who have won the clashes so far. They have moved out of Las Anod and gained ground.

B. Every single pair of Somali eyes are not only aware of this situation but are following it in real time. No group of people are watching this even with the level of sustained focus and attention to detail as Darod.

3. Essentially Dhulbahante are winning a war that is important for them to win AS "Dhulbahante." They faced Muuse's attack. They stopped it. They overpowered it. They have chased it even back.

4.;Dhulbahante has not asked for fighters from any community. They were most closest to asking and Darod was most closest to sending BEFORE the first clash BEFORE Dhulbahante established he could take on Muuse.


4.5. However, and within perfectly understandable and even acceptable circumstances, Dhulbahante needed logistical support. He is not short on that as I have shown with the Marehan and Layl Kase support sent just two days ago with all kinds of similarl I am sure Harti and Majeerteen are providing him.

5. Fighting a DEFENSIVE WAR is not just about victory in the "moment." That is not even more than half of the "victory." The other half is DETERRENCE. You must be victorious on the battle field in such a way to establish a deterrence for the future.

6. Some of the most emotionally invested people in the Darod story at this time with the results of the battlefields so far are responding to the strategic threat posed by Dhulbahante instituting that "DETERRENCE." I would even argue this is emotionally unpalatable and existentially threatening for some.

7. Dhulbahante has been challenged. He has spectacularly prosecuted that challenge in such a way that so far leaves no doubt about the relevance of the "deterrence" he has implicated himself in putting down.

8. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT AND VITAL FOR HIM TO DO SO SINGULARLY AND INDEPENDENTLY.

9. If the circumstances change, Darod are all watching this intimately and all of them instinctively will "feel" it if their physical intervention is warranted.

10. Make 0 mistake ---the US "shelling" warning that just comes on the rolling 5th day is a "military" assessment that Dhulbahante is the "predicted" winner in the conflict and will even be "ascendent" over his affairs having "birthed" himself the forming "detterrance." They have reached the point to be confident about how this will all end before it has already ended and are establishing future relations with the new power over the disputed area. Wallahi.

P.S. 1 or two or individuals of non-Dhulbahante origins capable of being locals, extended family,etc who have been identified as fighting is also irrelevant to larger point about "community entities" not sharing any of the 100% ownership and credit Dhulbahante has implicated himself on the battlefield and ownership over his affairs.

February 9th, 2023.

[skywalker25]

They have just gone from having one good sponsor in Somaliland to a bad sponsor in Puntland. What else has a changed? No Khatumo state or free Dhulbahbte. Thars keeping in mind it was they who chose Somaliland over Puntland to begin with.

[original dervish]

They have just gone from having one good sponsor in Somaliland to a bad sponsor in Puntland. What else has a changed? No Khatumo state or free Dhulbahbte. Thars keeping in mind it was they who chose Somaliland over Puntland to begin with.

You got some front showing calamitous forehead in this thread. It's like you want to deepen and intensify your personal shame and HJ humiliation.

There are still dozens of your HJ remains dotted around the Badiye. These are the cowards that fled at the first sight of Dhulbahante hordes bearing down on them. They were slaughtered as they abandoned all their heavy artillery and weaponry. The hyenas and crows long stripped their HJ carcasses of flesh. All that remains are sun baked skeletons . Some of the badiye kids have even made flutes out of the shin bones of HJ skeletons.

Furthermore, we still have hundreds and hundreds of HJ pows, including scores of your senior commanders, from Generals , Brigadiers and colonels down to ncos. We burned multiple villages and chased the population out of their grazing.lands.

A year on and we still waiting for you huge HJ counterattack........spoiler alert...it ain't coming.

[Gubbet]

Acuudi bilaah I absolutely regret bringing back up this topic or any of nature that contributes to Somali hostility and conflict. Xasbunalaah wa nicmal wakiil, ilaahay baan ka magan galay colaad sharteeda. Lesson well learned. Tis the last colaad topic I ever bring up sideedaba.

[Gubbet]

Og, you have seen me in how many topics concerning conflict involving my own clan. For instance, the colaad between my clan and HG in central regions is so pervasive and yielding that for the 3rd decade running the fire burns even more destructively where preteen boys sleeping in a makeshift bush masarasa are direct targets for slaughter by men who could be their grandfathers. Yet sxb have you ever seen me dehumanize a single HG. Without casting aspersions, I could see how Skywalker's predictable malaf malaf response degrading Dh could be triggering, but walaaloow your comments are beyond the pale.

[nextplaya]

Good title for this thread. Las Anod never left the hands of Dhulbahante factions who are often in disagreement, sometimes affiliated with Puntland and sometimes Somaliland. Dahir Rayale liberated them from Las Anod by applying that knowledge. Muse still doesn't understand this point.