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Gubbet wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:07 am Cliffs from Video;

• Beled Hawa is an important market for a 3-way border (Somalia, Ethiopia, Kenya)
  
• Beled Hawa is a cheaper source for essential foodstuffs like salt, sugar, etc
  
• Buyers from a wide region in southern Ethiopia-N Kenya are linked to venders in Beled-Hawa furnishing these supplies
  
• Beled Hawa uses Berbera and Bosaso ports to import these foodstuffs because they cost less than Mogadishu port due to insecurity and checkpoints
  
• Berber/Bosaso-Beled Hawa = $8 X; Mogadishu-Beled Hawa = $13 X

He posted a video I would use as evidence for the exact statement of mine he quoted, but the way he used it leads me to believe he was under the impression it is the inverse

You do this all the time man.

And FYi, I have said more than once Marehan even in Gedo used Berbera Port and even explained that Hargeisa and Somaliland is closer to Beled-Xawa than say "Mudug."

Beled Hawa to Galkacyo = 690 kms

Beled Hawa to Hargeisa = 610 kms

And keep in mind once you pass Dolo Bay Ethiopia, you hit real.good Ethiopian paved road unto Hargeisa

skywalker25 wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:32 am

Gubbet wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:45 am Another irony is how many times have I said that "iririzing" Berbera port is one of the dumbest business mistakes Isaaq can make seeing as since Cruttenden's observations in 1840's to now, almost 200 years of modern recorded trade in our hands---"Marehan" is one of the singularly and uniquely most important business clients of Isaaq regarding use of Berbera Port.

Gubbet wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:25 pm
Cruttenden akhri oo Ingiriiski akhri, nimankaa Harti Bender Qaasim ayeey awalba ilaashanaayeen, Berbera lama galaan ayeey ahayd sanadka intiisa badan oo kuleeylaha ayaaba waxa u dhawaada heat stroke ku dhalin jiray, hal xili ayaa la camiri jiray iyaduna Indian Banians ba khasbay oo Mareexaan iyo Ogaadeeen xoolahooda iyo malmashooda sugayeey malmalsha siiba Mareexaan waayo tiinaan waqooyi nafi ma lahaynba, Hawiye jiritaankiisaba miidnaan aqoon warna kamiidnaan hayn inagaad akhbaar naga warsan jirteen Indian Banianska inagoo raadinaya allaw nin aan wax ogeeym ha cadaabin,

We never really switched over to Mogadishu or even Kismaayo port. Remember we are historically and cultural-dispositionally a "northern" clan under the recently gained southern exterior. We are spiritually an interior or Hawd plateau clan and frame of reference was beamed looking from north. Marehan is today servicing Nageyle to Isiolo and Borana and Samburus from the northern ports we still imagine is a few leagues walk.

And Yusuf wanted to mix business with Iririya shenanigans. Caku HJ, war Sacad Muuse faraha uga qaado arrimaha ku saabsan Berbera waliba ka reeba Muuse Biixi's reer Samatar iyo reer Liibaanka waa badawda Sacad Muuse kuwaas HJ laba daqiiqo dhiman

Berbera is not closer to Beled Xaawo than Mudug. Because that would make me closer to your Gedo tribesman than you


Gubbet, you live in a fantasy world sprinkled with a little half truths. To give you a dose of reality. Commerce does not have ideological attachment. Its purely based on profit and how much the said individual can make from the particular deal. To give you a example, and this will dismiss your whole essay above. We (HJ), WHO are isaaq and from Berbera, were using Bossaso port during the 2000's. This was because Bossaso at the time was cheaper than Berbera. How you can sit there and convince any rational person that because you tribe has some historical association with the north you would prefer Berbera makes zero sense.

As for the sly little dig waa caadi

Nolol cusub wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:34 am Hawiyes are fully familiar with the circus, but I want Isaaqa to fully understand what they are dealing with.


1. In Late 1976 the Soviet Politburo warned Barre and Haraadigiisa not to invade Ethiopia. Actually, Fidel Castro flew to Mogadishu to explicitly tell Barre that if he invaded Ethiopia his army will be decimated prompto. The Carter administration told Barre via the US ambassador that America will not allow Ethiopia to be invaded. The two superpowers both warned him that he will lose and that his army will be decimated if he invaded their friend. Few months later Barre's led Somali army was threatening Addis Ababa. Diplomats in Moscow and Washington were both laughing their assess off, "Didn't Castro warn this guy?". The result: Somalia never recovers from such stupidity.

2. Another gem. In early April 1992, Haraadiga Barre attacks Mogadishu, a city of two million inhabitants, with 2000 malnourished "brave" clansmen. The week before Barre gave an interview to the BBC and insisted he was returning to Mogadishu. At Bar Ubax and Cafes across Mogadishu everyone was cracking up. Two weeks later he was in Nigeria.

This is the circus or the problem depending how you look at it. It never changes, always pushing the envelop.

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