Deni 'Qurux' sends Kaptan Ayub, who coined sobriquet 'Bahane,' to welcome Roble 'Bahane.'

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Re: Deni 'Qurux' sends Kaptan Ayub, who coined sobriquet 'Bahane,' to welcome Roble 'Bahane.'

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Gubbet wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:14 pm Everybody knows there is no pleasing MX.


Beesha is not very mucaarad and rebellious compared to other qabiils it comes with its pros and cons. Farmajo did the bare minimum for MX and had no tangible mucaaradnimo. If you go back in time MSB invested little in Gedo. Why would he do that when he has to use resources to appease and suppress other different mucaarad qabiils?
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That tells me you have a lot to learn about Marehan.

Their behavior under Siad and Farmaajo was UNNATURAL and only because it was sons.

MAREHAN IS THE LEAST---THE LEAST---SOMALI SOCIAL GROUP AMENABLE TO AUTHORITY, DICTATE, OR ORDER.

Do you know where "Bwana, Somali no goid, each man his own Sultan" came from?

From MAREHAN, by a Ugandan conscript fighting in today's Gedo as part of the King's African Rifles in the Marehan offensive.

Do you know where Gerald Hanley got his quote about Somali the most merciles, the bravest, the most independent, blah blah?

From MAREHAN after witnessing a Marehan dubat employed with the post-Italian defeat Dubats walk for tens of miles with his gut hanging out to be sewn up and walk away.

The history of Marehan is their existence in their land in Doollo for 80 years outside of any control. It is the Marehan Union as the only tribal party to win seats in colonialism as a rebellion against Italian regulation,it is their only exception as a disclaimer in the 1933 Italian census where they said the estimates do not really reflect Marehan because they couldn't count them which because Marehan said subjects are counted, it is 1991 and destroying the Djibouti conference, it is 2006 and Marrehan being the only clan whose chief refused to sign the Embagathi 4.5 government.

It is a LIE that Marehan is not "mucaarad" or "rebellious." Marehan is NOTHING but mucaarad and rebellious.

The ahistorical false perception comes from the fact 30 out of 60 years of modern Somalia, they ruled and almost 2/3 of the rest no one ruled or even exercised any basic level of authority.

As for the rest 1/3 of 1/2 they were nominally under different rule, in 1959 they were implicated in the worst election violence Somalia has yet seen where candidates were stabbed to death and in 1964 they were implicated in the second worst election violence Somalia has seen which effectively cut Dusamareb station from Dusamareb district to virtually become modern Caabudwaaq district, and in 1969 they engineered the coup that destroyed rule not under their control to begin with.

Marrehan is the LEAST amenable or accepting of authority of any Somali group.

Even to this very term, they are implicated in a STAND OFF with authority turning back flights and decommissioning political offices .
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Just two examples, the starting of the present system in 2004 and the beginning of all the modern systems in 1956

2004 and Embagathi;

In the end, Affey says the Marehan clan was the only Somali group to not sign off on Embagathi, but because their Ugas had said "Duca qaata oo kac idinku diiwaangashada" it was interpreted correctly the Ugas was saying by his authority, the clan was relinquishing the right to protest the registration of the Marehan MP list without his signature.

So he refused to sign and therefore endorse, but had withdrawn the privilege to contest their registration without his endorsement.

And thus, Ugas Cumar Ugas Hersi of Marehan, the Ugas Guud of Sade, was the only Somali traditional chief who did not endorse Embagathi.

Cajiib!

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Re: Deni 'Qurux' sends Kaptan Ayub, who coined sobriquet 'Bahane,' to welcome Roble 'Bahane.'

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1956 and Legislativa Somalia Italiana
Gubbet wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:45 pm Let's go back to 1956 elections and the Partito Union Merehan or the Marehan Union Party (at first Partito Unione Giovanni Merehan or the Marehan Union Youth Party
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Probably the single most underestimated or least understood aspect about Marehan is ironically the single most underestimated or ignored aspect about the Somali people and culture since the development of a State and focus on developed world concept of State economy----namely livestock.

Somalia doesn't produce or manufacture; there is only really something resembling a service industry providing communication and remittance process. Those entities are themselves are very saturated and ad hoc, even Dahabshiil, for example, barely generates enough revenue for profit after expenses are subtracted.

Somali wealth, then and as the same today, is livestock---this is the hard currency form of measuring assets and equity in Somalia.

And looking at historical + modern UNDP estimates as well as World Bank, Marehan, per capita relative to other Somali sub-clans, are very rich, even wealthy in livestock, particularly camels.

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This is how" Marehan financed the huge Galti migration in the early 20th century which would have been impossible in the entire earth without huge financing how ever the culture measures it.

Marehan of Lugh Ferrandi District (which is about 60-70% of Gedo Region today) made the Marehan Union Party or Unione Merehan---because of livestock interests.

The Italians---eho were brought back under UN Trusteeship to "prepare" Somalia for independence---declared that Marehan control of the livestock industry in the Jubba Valley was an "extreme monopoly."

They wanted to break it up and the election came on the heels of this huge issue between Marehan and the Trusteeship.

HDM was the political opposition---but it became a crisis after the SYL Party failed to declare a position on the issue.

Marehan was SYL constituency so obviously they were not going to declare in favor of the proposition---but they didn't declare against it for fear of losing votes among other clans in the region.

Because Marehan was already counted SYL and because they had no other options (irony of the SYL monopoly as a single party for all Samaale and HDM for all DM), the SYL took the Marehan for granted when they made the political position.

So the Marehan of Lugh-Ferrandi said "ok, Mr. Double Speak---we will see about that."

They took the extraordinary step of its time to declare a Marehan Union Party and face against BOTH SYL AND HDM.

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And the Marehan Union party won which was followed by the Italians dropping the heavy handed proposition---of politically interfering in the natural Somali based free market livestock business in southern Somalia.

Which was followed by Marehan of Lugh-Ferrandi dissolving Unione Merehan and going back to caucus with SYL.

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Re: Deni 'Qurux' sends Kaptan Ayub, who coined sobriquet 'Bahane,' to welcome Roble 'Bahane.'

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Qurux…kulaha ….sus 🤮
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Re: Deni 'Qurux' sends Kaptan Ayub, who coined sobriquet 'Bahane,' to welcome Roble 'Bahane.'

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Imika labadinan nin eeh Marexaan eeh waweyn, Gubbet and Murax ma waxad isku haysatan Deni wa qurux , iyo deni maha Qurux . anoo ta la yaaban ayu murax ka si daray oo yidhi hadu deni qurux yahay culusow na wa qurux , hahahaha


Aaad baan topican ugu qoslay hahahaha
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Re: Deni 'Qurux' sends Kaptan Ayub, who coined sobriquet 'Bahane,' to welcome Roble 'Bahane.'

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This topic has really nothing to do with Deni 'Qurux.' He is just a sarcastic operant (foil).

The topic is about Rooble 'Baahane' and more importantly Culusoow and the whole 'Badbaado Dhuuso.'

Do keep up, Smile and Khalid. :)
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Re: Deni 'Qurux' sends Kaptan Ayub, who coined sobriquet 'Bahane,' to welcome Roble 'Bahane.'

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Khalid Ali wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:27 pm Imika labadinan nin eeh Marexaan eeh waweyn, Gubbet and Murax ma waxad isku haysatan Deni wa qurux , iyo deni maha Qurux . anoo ta la yaaban ayu murax ka si daray oo yidhi hadu deni qurux yahay culusow na wa qurux , hahahaha


Aaad baan topican ugu qoslay hahahaha

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Markaan waaye si kale aan u qanciyo Gubbet ninkaan Deni inu qurun yahay baan kalimadaas isticmaalay
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Gubbet and other ilkoyars, do you miss Hassan Ali Kheyre and would you support him being Somalia's president at the next (s)election?
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