[/quote]Gurey
This can get you arrested in America
In fact, we can all be arrested for participating in this thread. The only person they would forgive is Xoogsade24 obviously Cyber Jihadists it is time for action.
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[quote="gurey25"]I dont know how things are these days but i recall praying subax prayer with 2 guys who claimed to be returing from jihad in chechniya. they were openly talking about it, and they looked the part too.
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Gurey
This can get you arrested in America In fact, we can all be arrested for participating in this thread. The only person they would forgive is Xoogsade24 obviously
[/quote]Gurey
This can get you arrested in America
In fact, we can all be arrested for participating in this thread. The only person they would forgive is Xoogsade24 obviously 
Mohawk
Do you remember when Dalmar the crazy Kiwi spilled the names of the members of the different Islamic movements in Somalia on these pages, and how it became a serious litigation issue? Then if you remember that post, let us not lump all these organizations together, and ask ourselves why are these Muslim organisations divided into many sects and operate differently from each other? Doesn’t this indicate they have major differences and hatred towards each other? And whose interpretation of Sharia Laws would be adopted? The strongest among them is the so called "Islamic Courts" led by Dahir Aweys. The later never accepted the last Nairobi established regime due to the bad blood between his group and the former Puntland regime, and in part is due for his support and solidarity with his tribal cousin Abdiqasim Salat who was unseated by Af Biijo. Like Afbiijo and the warlords, he is a blood thirsty maniac whose only intention since he was a colonel during the Afweeyne era is rule to Somalia. No place will be safe from his thugs. If he gets his way, he will close Mogadiscio University as his adversaries established and operate it, and he doesn't believe in Universities and teaching other than the Qura'an and his sects intrepretation of Islam.
The competing Islamic groups in Somalia are;
Harakat al-Islah
Itihaad
Ahlu Sunna wal Jama'a
Majma' 'Ulimadda Islaamka ee Soomaaliya (Shaafici scholars)
Salafiyya Jadiida
Jama'at al-Tabligh
Read this link.
By Anouar Boukhars
Somali Islamism can be traced to a common source, the Waxda al-Shabaab al-Islaami and the Jama'at al-Ahl al-Islaami (also known as the al-Ahli group). These Muslim Brotherhood-inspired groups developed in the 1960s and strove to be key players in liaising with the state and the setting of its mixed ideological agenda [1]. The rise to power of Mohamed Siad Barre in 1969, however, deprived the Islamists of their status. Al-Ahli was forced to disband and al-Wahdat and other Islamist groups went underground or fled to the oil-rich states of the Gulf to join the Somali diaspora. By the 1980s, the Somali Islamist movement had grown considerably. Nevertheless, it was the ouster of the Barre dictatorship that gave a major boost to Islamic associations and organizations.
Harakat al-Islah
Harakat al-Islah originated in the late 1970s as a loose network of affiliated underground groups [2]. Today, al-Islah publicly professes its commitment to the basic tenets of democracy and cultural pluralism. Its stated commitment to this philosophy of inclusion is enshrined in the organization's social make-up and mode of action. The organization's forward-looking views on religion and politics and attempts to reconcile the tenets of Islam with the modern notions of democracy are apparent in its internal structure, where members of its "High Council" are elected by the Majlis al-Shura for a maximum of two terms. Al-Islah's leading members include the organization's chairman, Dr. Ali Sheikh, president of Mogadishu University [3]. Prior to the demise of the Barre regime, the organization operated as a clandestine integrated structure of clusters under the leadership of Sheikh Mohamed Garyare, Dr. Ali Sheikh and Dr. Ibrahim Dusuqi.
With the overthrow of the Barre dictatorship and hence the elimination of the organization's main enemy, al-Islah came out of the shadows and was operated exclusively for the promotion of social and humanitarian activities. Al-Islah members play prominent roles in the state's educational apparatuses. Al-Islah has always been suspected by Somali and foreign security services of involvement in radicalism and association with al-Itihaad. There is much evidence, however, of a power struggle between and within al-Islah and al-Itihaad's competing ideological authorities about the relationship between religion and politics. There are also ideological differences and strong divergences on strategies, tactics and religious interpretations. Al-Islah's leaders, for example, condemn violence and takfir (declaring as an infidel) as un-Islamic and counterproductive. They have long called for building a shared future that transcends the extremism and bigotry embodied in al-Itihaad's and Takfir wal-Hijra's Salafi-Jihadist ideology [5].
Ahlu Sunna wal Jama'a
Ahlu Sunna wal Jama'a (ASWJ) is another modern Islamist group created in 1991 as an offshoot from Majma' to counter the influence of the most radical Islamist trends. The movement brings together politically motivated sheikhs whose primary goal is to unify the Sufi community under one unified leadership capable of consolidating the powers of the three primary Sufi Tariqas—the Qadiriyya, Salihiyya and Ahmadiyya—into one front whose sole mission is the rejuvenation of the "traditionalist" interpretation of Islam and the de-legitimization of the beliefs and political views of al-Ittihad and other radical Islamic movements.
Majma' 'Ulimadda Islaamka ee Soomaaliya
Majma' 'Ulimadda Islaamka ee represents, as its name denotes, an assembly of Islamic scholars who follow the Shafi'i madhhab and whose main goal is the establishment of a Sharia-based government. The organization has been led by Sheikh Ahmed Abdi Dhi'isow since the death of its founding chairman, Sheikh Mohamed Ma'alim Hassan, in 2001 [6].
There are differences of views among Majma' 'Ulimadda Islaamka ee, Ahlu Sunna wal Jama'a and Harakat al-Islah about the nature of the state, but a general consensus seems to have developed among the different factions about the need to apply a certain interpretation of Islam within a modern framework of government.
Missionary (Da'wa) Islamism
Missionary Islamists largely eschew political activism—even if their brand of activism has some political objectives and implications. The movement is represented by Salafiyya Jadiida (the new Salafis) and the most structured movement in Somalia, Jama'at al-Tabligh.
Salafiyya Jadiida
The Salafiyya Jadiida current is best exemplified by Sheikh Ali Wajis, an example of a prominent Salafi ideologue who has gone from supporting and briefly leading al-Itihaad to opposing its violent dogmatic theology. Wajis' qualified repudiation of the irrational jihadi ideology of Salafi-Jihadists and his re-examination of its theoretical position in light of a rational reassessment of Islamic rules of warfare and the prevailing realities on the ground exemplify the fractures rocking the jihadi and Islamist movements. It is also an encouraging sign of the debate occurring within the new Salafis and Salafi-Jihadist circles about the need for contextualized understanding of the issues of jihad and political violence.
Jama'at al-Tabligh
The Tabligh movement, launched in India in 1926 by the Jama'at al-Da'wa wal-Tabligh (Group for Preaching and Propagation), as an apolitical, quietist movement constitutes the largest group of religious proselytizers in Somalia. Tablighi missionaries' aggressive and dedicated peaceful and apolitical preaching tactics are part of the reason for the explosive growth of Tablighi sympathizers and supporters. This notable success in recruitment and significant increase in membership left the movement wide open to infiltration and manipulation by radical groups. Out of the 500 to 700 foreign sheikhs present in Somalia, many are from the Arab world but they also come from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Chechnya and other countries [7]. Given the size and heterogeneity of the movement, its infiltration by jihadi elements should come as no surprise. What is troubling, however, is the denial of the movement's leadership of any such infiltration despite mounting evidence of the group's involvement in murdering foreign aid workers in Somaliland. The movement, as the International Crisis Group reported, "lacks any system of screening its members for prior involvement in jihadism and so is poorly equipped to respond to allegations that some may be involved in fomenting extremism and violence" [8].
http://www.jamestown.org/terrorism/news ... id=2369999
Do you remember when Dalmar the crazy Kiwi spilled the names of the members of the different Islamic movements in Somalia on these pages, and how it became a serious litigation issue? Then if you remember that post, let us not lump all these organizations together, and ask ourselves why are these Muslim organisations divided into many sects and operate differently from each other? Doesn’t this indicate they have major differences and hatred towards each other? And whose interpretation of Sharia Laws would be adopted? The strongest among them is the so called "Islamic Courts" led by Dahir Aweys. The later never accepted the last Nairobi established regime due to the bad blood between his group and the former Puntland regime, and in part is due for his support and solidarity with his tribal cousin Abdiqasim Salat who was unseated by Af Biijo. Like Afbiijo and the warlords, he is a blood thirsty maniac whose only intention since he was a colonel during the Afweeyne era is rule to Somalia. No place will be safe from his thugs. If he gets his way, he will close Mogadiscio University as his adversaries established and operate it, and he doesn't believe in Universities and teaching other than the Qura'an and his sects intrepretation of Islam.
The competing Islamic groups in Somalia are;
Harakat al-Islah
Itihaad
Ahlu Sunna wal Jama'a
Majma' 'Ulimadda Islaamka ee Soomaaliya (Shaafici scholars)
Salafiyya Jadiida
Jama'at al-Tabligh
Read this link.
By Anouar Boukhars
Somali Islamism can be traced to a common source, the Waxda al-Shabaab al-Islaami and the Jama'at al-Ahl al-Islaami (also known as the al-Ahli group). These Muslim Brotherhood-inspired groups developed in the 1960s and strove to be key players in liaising with the state and the setting of its mixed ideological agenda [1]. The rise to power of Mohamed Siad Barre in 1969, however, deprived the Islamists of their status. Al-Ahli was forced to disband and al-Wahdat and other Islamist groups went underground or fled to the oil-rich states of the Gulf to join the Somali diaspora. By the 1980s, the Somali Islamist movement had grown considerably. Nevertheless, it was the ouster of the Barre dictatorship that gave a major boost to Islamic associations and organizations.
Harakat al-Islah
Harakat al-Islah originated in the late 1970s as a loose network of affiliated underground groups [2]. Today, al-Islah publicly professes its commitment to the basic tenets of democracy and cultural pluralism. Its stated commitment to this philosophy of inclusion is enshrined in the organization's social make-up and mode of action. The organization's forward-looking views on religion and politics and attempts to reconcile the tenets of Islam with the modern notions of democracy are apparent in its internal structure, where members of its "High Council" are elected by the Majlis al-Shura for a maximum of two terms. Al-Islah's leading members include the organization's chairman, Dr. Ali Sheikh, president of Mogadishu University [3]. Prior to the demise of the Barre regime, the organization operated as a clandestine integrated structure of clusters under the leadership of Sheikh Mohamed Garyare, Dr. Ali Sheikh and Dr. Ibrahim Dusuqi.
With the overthrow of the Barre dictatorship and hence the elimination of the organization's main enemy, al-Islah came out of the shadows and was operated exclusively for the promotion of social and humanitarian activities. Al-Islah members play prominent roles in the state's educational apparatuses. Al-Islah has always been suspected by Somali and foreign security services of involvement in radicalism and association with al-Itihaad. There is much evidence, however, of a power struggle between and within al-Islah and al-Itihaad's competing ideological authorities about the relationship between religion and politics. There are also ideological differences and strong divergences on strategies, tactics and religious interpretations. Al-Islah's leaders, for example, condemn violence and takfir (declaring as an infidel) as un-Islamic and counterproductive. They have long called for building a shared future that transcends the extremism and bigotry embodied in al-Itihaad's and Takfir wal-Hijra's Salafi-Jihadist ideology [5].
Ahlu Sunna wal Jama'a
Ahlu Sunna wal Jama'a (ASWJ) is another modern Islamist group created in 1991 as an offshoot from Majma' to counter the influence of the most radical Islamist trends. The movement brings together politically motivated sheikhs whose primary goal is to unify the Sufi community under one unified leadership capable of consolidating the powers of the three primary Sufi Tariqas—the Qadiriyya, Salihiyya and Ahmadiyya—into one front whose sole mission is the rejuvenation of the "traditionalist" interpretation of Islam and the de-legitimization of the beliefs and political views of al-Ittihad and other radical Islamic movements.
Majma' 'Ulimadda Islaamka ee Soomaaliya
Majma' 'Ulimadda Islaamka ee represents, as its name denotes, an assembly of Islamic scholars who follow the Shafi'i madhhab and whose main goal is the establishment of a Sharia-based government. The organization has been led by Sheikh Ahmed Abdi Dhi'isow since the death of its founding chairman, Sheikh Mohamed Ma'alim Hassan, in 2001 [6].
There are differences of views among Majma' 'Ulimadda Islaamka ee, Ahlu Sunna wal Jama'a and Harakat al-Islah about the nature of the state, but a general consensus seems to have developed among the different factions about the need to apply a certain interpretation of Islam within a modern framework of government.
Missionary (Da'wa) Islamism
Missionary Islamists largely eschew political activism—even if their brand of activism has some political objectives and implications. The movement is represented by Salafiyya Jadiida (the new Salafis) and the most structured movement in Somalia, Jama'at al-Tabligh.
Salafiyya Jadiida
The Salafiyya Jadiida current is best exemplified by Sheikh Ali Wajis, an example of a prominent Salafi ideologue who has gone from supporting and briefly leading al-Itihaad to opposing its violent dogmatic theology. Wajis' qualified repudiation of the irrational jihadi ideology of Salafi-Jihadists and his re-examination of its theoretical position in light of a rational reassessment of Islamic rules of warfare and the prevailing realities on the ground exemplify the fractures rocking the jihadi and Islamist movements. It is also an encouraging sign of the debate occurring within the new Salafis and Salafi-Jihadist circles about the need for contextualized understanding of the issues of jihad and political violence.
Jama'at al-Tabligh
The Tabligh movement, launched in India in 1926 by the Jama'at al-Da'wa wal-Tabligh (Group for Preaching and Propagation), as an apolitical, quietist movement constitutes the largest group of religious proselytizers in Somalia. Tablighi missionaries' aggressive and dedicated peaceful and apolitical preaching tactics are part of the reason for the explosive growth of Tablighi sympathizers and supporters. This notable success in recruitment and significant increase in membership left the movement wide open to infiltration and manipulation by radical groups. Out of the 500 to 700 foreign sheikhs present in Somalia, many are from the Arab world but they also come from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Chechnya and other countries [7]. Given the size and heterogeneity of the movement, its infiltration by jihadi elements should come as no surprise. What is troubling, however, is the denial of the movement's leadership of any such infiltration despite mounting evidence of the group's involvement in murdering foreign aid workers in Somaliland. The movement, as the International Crisis Group reported, "lacks any system of screening its members for prior involvement in jihadism and so is poorly equipped to respond to allegations that some may be involved in fomenting extremism and violence" [8].
http://www.jamestown.org/terrorism/news ... id=2369999
You know guys, despite Galol's record of Allah bashing and prophet insulting, which by the way can be due to alcohol influence as that evil piss renders one silly, is much more somali and shows sincere concern for our plight than say brother Mawhawk and Law26 for their dismissive comments when they should reserve the right to criticize for another day.
Is there anyone worse than someone who finds you dying and then stabs you some more instead of just at least walking by you if he wasn't going to help you out of your misery?
The Rebel.
Why don't you decide what sex you are first and then come participate? I saw you calling Galol dear yesterday, which is fishy for a guy to say to another man don't you think? We just live in a screwed up world where even some people don't know if they are man or a woman or want to pass as a different SEX for stu-pid reasons. Sh!T
Is there anyone worse than someone who finds you dying and then stabs you some more instead of just at least walking by you if he wasn't going to help you out of your misery?
The Rebel.
Why don't you decide what sex you are first and then come participate?
I saw you calling Galol dear yesterday, which is fishy for a guy to say to another man don't you think? We just live in a screwed up world where even some people don't know if they are man or a woman or want to pass as a different SEX for stu-pid reasons. Sh!T
Last edited by Gamadid. on Sun May 28, 2006 7:47 am, edited 1 time in total.
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The rebel
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I did not understand any of what you've said but I wear Dash-dasha and egaalp; and occasionally I wear pant and t-shirt 
Last edited by The rebel on Sun May 28, 2006 8:06 am, edited 1 time in total.
Some of us conveniently ignore what they can't deal with Sis.
PS: btw, I saw what you wrote, Editting it won't help you
What you don't understand actually is that people have the ability to sense any abnormalcy in people's behaviour. For example, more than one person thinks of you as a woman and that you are lying. You know whay is that? Males and females write differently. Occassioanly confusion does occur over who is what but soon it is cleared. Anomalies such as the ones in your character as a man don't persist unless something is seriously wrong with you. Get it??
PS: btw, I saw what you wrote, Editting it won't help you
What you don't understand actually is that people have the ability to sense any abnormalcy in people's behaviour. For example, more than one person thinks of you as a woman and that you are lying. You know whay is that? Males and females write differently. Occassioanly confusion does occur over who is what but soon it is cleared. Anomalies such as the ones in your character as a man don't persist unless something is seriously wrong with you. Get it??
My dear Sweet Gamadid Izzayak ya Habibi waya eyni weyaa qaat
Does that make me a woman now? There was a time when I thought women saying uuuf akhas ish to me meant Come on sexy beast and i rubbed my palms with anticipation. One might say that was the optimism of desperation.
But bleedin heck this one takes the biscuit and the focking cake too: If you realy think any person who says `dear' to another is somehow making sexual inuendo then may god send you to heaven express so you can dip your wick into some hurul ein becuase boy you are one desperate mothafocka.
On the positive side it is quite nice to know there are other desperadoes out there in the world. And think how lucky you are: At least you stand a chance of burying your sword into some dead ghosts in the afterlife while Ol Galol will not have a sniff of it dead or alive..
Anyway I am quite surprised you attacking law26 who is a veritble slimeball the male version of kambuli but without the wisdom and art and Mohawk who i think is Law's alter ego. I mean how many Hawiyes can they allow into Australia in one go? It is indeed an absolute rarity to see a clan member critcising his fellow clansmen unless of course you are not hawiye at all but one of those corner-shop two goat clans with unprounouncable names and you hate all mainstream motherfockers because they have all been ignoring you for centuries.
Dont worry I hate mainstreamers too focking secesionist iiidoors included. they all suck the mothafockers. May Allah kill them all with a plague of diseease-carrying Hurul eins.
Hey BTW how do you know alcohol does great things to you like getting an erection when guys say Dear to you? It sounded like you were talking from experience... I could be wrong though
Rebel
How are you my sweet dear Rebel.
Does that make me a woman now? There was a time when I thought women saying uuuf akhas ish to me meant Come on sexy beast and i rubbed my palms with anticipation. One might say that was the optimism of desperation.
But bleedin heck this one takes the biscuit and the focking cake too: If you realy think any person who says `dear' to another is somehow making sexual inuendo then may god send you to heaven express so you can dip your wick into some hurul ein becuase boy you are one desperate mothafocka.
On the positive side it is quite nice to know there are other desperadoes out there in the world. And think how lucky you are: At least you stand a chance of burying your sword into some dead ghosts in the afterlife while Ol Galol will not have a sniff of it dead or alive..
Anyway I am quite surprised you attacking law26 who is a veritble slimeball the male version of kambuli but without the wisdom and art and Mohawk who i think is Law's alter ego. I mean how many Hawiyes can they allow into Australia in one go? It is indeed an absolute rarity to see a clan member critcising his fellow clansmen unless of course you are not hawiye at all but one of those corner-shop two goat clans with unprounouncable names and you hate all mainstream motherfockers because they have all been ignoring you for centuries.
Dont worry I hate mainstreamers too focking secesionist iiidoors included. they all suck the mothafockers. May Allah kill them all with a plague of diseease-carrying Hurul eins.
Hey BTW how do you know alcohol does great things to you like getting an erection when guys say Dear to you? It sounded like you were talking from experience... I could be wrong though
Rebel
How are you my sweet dear Rebel.
[quote="Gamadid."]You know guys, despite Galol's record of Allah bashing and prophet insulting, which by the way can be due to alcohol influence as that evil piss renders one silly, is much more somali and shows sincere concern for our plight than say brother Mawhawk and Law26 for their dismissive comments when they should reserve the right to criticize for another day.
Is there anyone worse than someone who finds you dying and then stabs you some more instead of just at least walking by you if he wasn't going to help you out of your misery? [/quote]
Gamadiid
Bro are you joking? In your eyes it doesn't bother me if Galol is a better human/Somali than me, but what is the "misery" or "stabbing"? I never knew that you may get offended personally, just for calling all the warring parties in the Mogadiscio war to cease their hostilities and consider Somali lives. I heard and respect your opinions, but I find it tasteless what you insinuated above. Take care.
Law
Thanks for the information. Anyway, I will dig a post which I briefly touched of what you talked above, and it is an accurate picture of all these sects in Somalia. Though I don't know the degree of their mutual hostilities, but I can tell you some viewpoints I heard from the followers of the "Islamic Courts" were worrying, and yes some told me to consider Mogadiscio University as a secular institution and should be closed. Too many sensitive people here. We urgently need to sit and talk about peace, the gun will only cause further chaos and oppression. May Allah help the Somalis.
Rebel
Thanks, and hope you enjoy good health.
Galol
".....and Mohawk who i think is Law's alter ego. I mean how many Hawiyes can they allow into Australia in one go? It is indeed an absolute rarity to see a clan member critcising his fellow clansmen unless of course you are not hawiye at all but one of those corner-shop two goat clans with unprounouncable names and you hate all mainstream motherfockers because they have all been ignoring you for centuries."
Is there anyone worse than someone who finds you dying and then stabs you some more instead of just at least walking by you if he wasn't going to help you out of your misery? [/quote]
Gamadiid
Bro are you joking? In your eyes it doesn't bother me if Galol is a better human/Somali than me, but what is the "misery" or "stabbing"? I never knew that you may get offended personally, just for calling all the warring parties in the Mogadiscio war to cease their hostilities and consider Somali lives. I heard and respect your opinions, but I find it tasteless what you insinuated above. Take care.
Law
Thanks for the information. Anyway, I will dig a post which I briefly touched of what you talked above, and it is an accurate picture of all these sects in Somalia. Though I don't know the degree of their mutual hostilities, but I can tell you some viewpoints I heard from the followers of the "Islamic Courts" were worrying, and yes some told me to consider Mogadiscio University as a secular institution and should be closed. Too many sensitive people here. We urgently need to sit and talk about peace, the gun will only cause further chaos and oppression. May Allah help the Somalis.
Rebel
Thanks, and hope you enjoy good health.
Galol
".....and Mohawk who i think is Law's alter ego. I mean how many Hawiyes can they allow into Australia in one go? It is indeed an absolute rarity to see a clan member critcising his fellow clansmen unless of course you are not hawiye at all but one of those corner-shop two goat clans with unprounouncable names and you hate all mainstream motherfockers because they have all been ignoring you for centuries."
The rebel
Just behave like a man so others will deal with you accordingly. That is all. And if you are a female, that is even better.
Mowhawk.
You did not suggest how people will extricate themselves out of their plight but only offered your criticism. Change doesn't come unless people are willing to bring about it no matter what the cost is. If it is not today, it will be tomorrow that people will have to fight if they have to. All the parties involved in these conflicts are not perfect, however, given the record, the residents lean towards the courts because they saw what the warlords had done for the last sixteen years. You suggested negotiations, have you ever listened to Qanyare going off about somali clans including Daarood and how he insults them? The guy is ciyaalsuuq with no manners. And then Yalaxoow, God, one big reason I do not defend Hawiye is because of that guy. I mean come on, no mother gave birth to anyone more nincompoopish than that guy. You must have heard about the warlords so I won't list them. Marka saxib, Whoever can help the residents get rid of them is welcome. I am saying this knowing my parents are at risk. In fact, I spent Eighty dollars one previous night looking for them as they were separated due to the sudden eruption of violence. Despite the danger, when people get desperate, they don't care if they die, they just want an end to their situation. So critiqueing without offering any solutions, and worse yet suggesting the same warlords who got rich robbing people and killing them at their whims should be negotiated with is tantamount to indifference in my book.
But anyway, if I didn't care about your opinon, I wouldn't have bothered addressing you to begin with, so take what I said as admonition from a brother no less
Galol is an enigma, someone you would want to be a muslim, and absent his insults to God and his prophet phuh, he would just be normal and minus the Gay language that is unbecoming for an Old man. I wish he never used such terms sometimes.
Anyway, I must go now.
Yea, Law26, is he you saxib? Somehow you are the better character although you have some common thoughts with him. You are my preference over him, the guy is just bitter every time he writes as he hates everyone who is somali. Ii have never seen him show any love to others. If you embark on a mission to teach and dissuade, persuade others, you must show sincerity, love, understanding, accept your mistakes when you are at fault and be patient. He neither shows any of that. Waa constant hate hate hate, and as you know, hate begetts hate only.
Just behave like a man so others will deal with you accordingly. That is all. And if you are a female, that is even better.
Mowhawk.
You did not suggest how people will extricate themselves out of their plight but only offered your criticism. Change doesn't come unless people are willing to bring about it no matter what the cost is. If it is not today, it will be tomorrow that people will have to fight if they have to. All the parties involved in these conflicts are not perfect, however, given the record, the residents lean towards the courts because they saw what the warlords had done for the last sixteen years. You suggested negotiations, have you ever listened to Qanyare going off about somali clans including Daarood and how he insults them? The guy is ciyaalsuuq with no manners. And then Yalaxoow, God, one big reason I do not defend Hawiye is because of that guy. I mean come on, no mother gave birth to anyone more nincompoopish than that guy. You must have heard about the warlords so I won't list them. Marka saxib, Whoever can help the residents get rid of them is welcome. I am saying this knowing my parents are at risk. In fact, I spent Eighty dollars one previous night looking for them as they were separated due to the sudden eruption of violence. Despite the danger, when people get desperate, they don't care if they die, they just want an end to their situation. So critiqueing without offering any solutions, and worse yet suggesting the same warlords who got rich robbing people and killing them at their whims should be negotiated with is tantamount to indifference in my book.
But anyway, if I didn't care about your opinon, I wouldn't have bothered addressing you to begin with, so take what I said as admonition from a brother no less
Galol is an enigma, someone you would want to be a muslim, and absent his insults to God and his prophet phuh, he would just be normal and minus the Gay language that is unbecoming for an Old man. I wish he never used such terms sometimes.
Anyway, I must go now.
Yea, Law26, is he you saxib?
Somehow you are the better character although you have some common thoughts with him. You are my preference over him, the guy is just bitter every time he writes as he hates everyone who is somali. Ii have never seen him show any love to others. If you embark on a mission to teach and dissuade, persuade others, you must show sincerity, love, understanding, accept your mistakes when you are at fault and be patient. He neither shows any of that. Waa constant hate hate hate, and as you know, hate begetts hate only.-
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