ICU lost war for the first time and they lost strategic town

[Wise-Man]

Cost, even though i donÂ’t like the way you debate, I would like to response to you one more time. As you know, so far what Islamic courts have done is acceptable and admirable to anyone who has a little sympathy for those who have suffered in Mogadishu and other provinces and we canÂ’t just disregard that. Moreover, people make mistakes and no one is perfect. It is good to be optimistic and realistic at times, so i guess Islamic Courts are trying to avoid another opposition in Shebelle region since they are busy with Amxaaro and the so called Tigrinyan Interim Government. So letÂ’s just wait and see what they would do next.


Dawladsade, I think Mareexaan regions are the easiest places to conquer, because most of them are wadaado gardheer.

[DawladSade]

[quote]Dawladsade, I think Mareexaan regions are the easiest places to conquer, because most of them are wadaado gardheer.[/quote]

eedadaa la janee..war siyaasi baa meesha ku hayna

given that you are giving us an indirect compliment saying dad diiniyan baa nahay i can hardly disagree now can't i?

[Wise-Man]

^^ Waar ninku amaan jeclaaa, okay letÂ’s say Mareexaans are religious folks, but, adiga iyo Xoogsade xageen adiin raacnaa, meel hala idinkugu soo hagaago Qabqable-Qabiil or Revolutionary Gardheere???

[DawladSade]

Ilaay ay somaliya isu imanayso eena la dhisayso qaran loo midaysan yahay anigu qolodaydaan matalaa difaacoodana u taaganahay.

[Wise-Man]

So, you mean, you canÂ’t be the first one to give up the qabilism things? and waana in laguu bilaaba revolutionkaas, then after that, you will obey and be loyal to your leaders who started that uprising since they are the ones who will get the highest regard/esteem in the country. Well, good to know that, I thought inaad weli ku dhegen tihiin heestii guulwade siyaad.. Hadaba ammaan baad naga heleysaan Reer-Sadoow.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Any more news from the front? I would expect Qeybdid forces would now drive on Dhusa Mareb. Or perhaps they will bypass it and see if they can coordinate with Hawadle being supported by the Ethiopians to seize Beledweyne.

[eyes-only]

@ MAD MAC

You truely have no clue have you?

The guy will have problems staying in his birth place let alone set foot in hiiran or dhuusa mareeb. That is laughable wallaahi.

The latest by the way is that some of his militias (qeybdiid) are running away from him and joining their muslim brothers to fight the aggressors which includes Ethiopia and Puntland. To expect a sacad person to fight alongside Ethiopia and Majeerteen militias is just asking too much in my opinion. I think you may need to learn more about Somali history.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Eyes
Would you have thought it was too much for Abgal and Murosade to fight against Haber Gedir alongside Americans?

Politics can make for some strange bedfellows. Look how long Majertain and Ethiopians worked together. Even now, Isaaq and Ethiopians work together closely.

[eyes-only]

Waryaahe. They didnÂ’t fight alongside America. They opposed America. That is something all Somalis have in common. When it comes to fighting outsiders Somalis unite There might be the odd individual who only thinks about his supply of khaat but even that person is selling information or at least cussing you. DonÂ’t start going on about Abgaal and Murusade. The Americans were considered as enemy by the majority of all clans. You may say it was only habargidir that fought back but the truth is all Somalis fought back. If not militarily, it was by sharing information or supplying support.

You are right though. Clan politics is something and politics in general is unpredictable. But Qeybdiid was deserted by his own militas once they found out the people they were fighting were their own sacad clan and every other clan in Muqdisho. What makes you think people that have been facing animosities with Majeerteen and Ethiopia since the beginning of history will unite with their enemies to fight their own kinfolk? That is just not the Somali way. Plus PuntlandÂ’s decision to not recognise GalMudug is just going to change the shape of the brewing battle in that region. At the end of the day, Qeybdiid like most warlords doesnÂ’t have many friends within his own sub clan and when it comes down to it, the sacad leaders only want to make sure their warlord is left to them to deal with.

I think I read you comment in another post that the Abgaal finished off Ceydiid which made me laugh. Anyway, you donÂ’t know much about qabiil politics and history. Nothing is as you see it, that is all I will say.

[qudhac-m]

[quote="Wise-Man"]^^ Waar ninku amaan jeclaaa, okay letÂ’s say Mareexaans are religious folks, but, adiga iyo Xoogsade xageen adiin raacnaa, meel hala idinkugu soo hagaago Qabqable-Qabiil or Revolutionary Gardheere??? [/quote]


BINGO

INAAD MAJEERTEEN TAHAY WALIBA MAKHNUUDA WAAN OGAAA

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

eyes
Get off the crack. You are ignoring reality. I was in Somalia, I know what really went down. Why do you think I have so many Abgal friends even today?

[TarraQ]

Americans excell at screwing things up, lol. if they tried to be impartial and did their best not to appear as though they were siding with certain tribes, and confronted all the warlords equally, then i think they would have had more success. But no, they had to get some tribes onside and just chase caydiid around, which was a big mistake because then h.gidir could justify their actions by claiming that the americans were siding with their enemies and they had every right to fight them. Which i think was fair enough. But if they just got their sniper rifles and took out every warlord, stuck around for a while and did the same to their successors , who knows may be xamar would have become more peaceful in the early nineties.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Tarraq
As oppossed to Somalis, who always get it right the first time?

[TarraQ]

^LOL, I dont remember anytime we got anything right , but i think if there were 250 million somalis who are as rich and powerful as the americans are the world would be perfect and peaceful in every way. No one would bully no one, we are very fair and generous people. Any one that gets out of line we would quickly put them back in it . But you guys are just bloody hopeless.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

If there were 250 million Somalis who were as rich as the Americans, the entire world would be under seige. Is there anything a Somali likes to do more than fight?