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[quote="COSTA"]Ethiopians helped Omar xanshi in Hiiraan in the middle of 90 no one called
Xawaadles Ethipian stooges

Ethiopians helped Ina Masale to get rid of Itixaad and Xasan Daahir Aweys
other wise Gedo today would have been like Taliban strong hold
but no one cared

Ethiopian helped Ceydid in 1990 then they were nice neghbours
and Ceyr was glad to have Ethiopian armies

Ethiopian helped Shaati Gaduud and RRA to kick Sacad out of their town

But when Ethiopian army come to Gaalkacyo to train Puntland army every one wil mention

I see you guys have problem with Puntland not Ethiopians
and you have to undrestand ond thing Ethiopia will always be part
of Somali politics till Somalis come together and tell the truth to eachother[/quote]

and you are failing to differentiate btw past and present. .

and we all know wat Marehan did to ina masale and the war they led for 4 years to get the habash out of gedo again. cumar xashi was a man who brought the habasho, marehan was a qabil that fought them BOTH.

you cant compare that to puntland who is too scared to fight their own battles and bring them in willingly as a ppl saying "we were friends since 1978" wtf

Why Puntland say no to some one who is willing to fight a Proxy War for them

[quote="DawladSade"][quote="COSTA"]Ethiopians helped Omar xanshi in Hiiraan in the middle of 90 no one called
Xawaadles Ethipian stooges

Ethiopians helped Ina Masale to get rid of Itixaad and Xasan Daahir Aweys
other wise Gedo today would have been like Taliban strong hold
but no one cared

Ethiopian helped Ceydid in 1990 then they were nice neghbours
and Ceyr was glad to have Ethiopian armies

Ethiopian helped Shaati Gaduud and RRA to kick Sacad out of their town

But when Ethiopian army come to Gaalkacyo to train Puntland army every one wil mention

I see you guys have problem with Puntland not Ethiopians
and you have to undrestand ond thing Ethiopia will always be part
of Somali politics till Somalis come together and tell the truth to eachother[/quote]

and you are failing to differentiate btw past and present. .

and we all know wat Marehan did to ina masale and the war they led for 4 years to get the habash out of gedo again. cumar xashi was a man who brought the habasho, marehan was a qabil that fought them BOTH.

you cant compare that to puntland who is too scared to fight their own battles and bring them in willingly as a ppl saying "we were friends since 1978" wtf [/quote]\



SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE MAREEXAAN

iam glad that you mantioned that you are not scared i dont know if you remember but let me refresh your memory YOU ARE THE ONCE WHO MADE THE HAWIYE WHO THEY ARE TODAY becouse of your marathon they became bravehearts

[quote="intellex"]

YOU ARE THE ONCE WHO MADE THE HAWIYE WHO THEY ARE TODAY becouse of your marathon they became bravehearts

[/quote]





I believe that Marathon was a Faqash thing not exclusively Marexaan

That marathon was like 4x400 m relay all Daroods run at once but Mareexaan has started they were the fastest and set new Somali record

[quote]YOU ARE THE ONCE WHO MADE THE HAWIYE WHO THEY ARE TODAY becouse of your marathon they became bravehearts[/quote]


in what way? also keep in mind these points;

1. Marehan is a subclan of Darod lives more in Ethiopia then Somalia.

2. Hawiye is equivalent to Darod and they all live in southern somalia, especially around Banadir region and Mogadishu.

3. Mogadishu was located iska daa Mareehan ee not even Darod deegaan.

4. Most of the Somali arms storage facilities were in Benadir and Shebellada Hoose.

5. Most of the solderis, foot soldiers, ppl to be used for mutiny were majority Hawiye.

6. the beginning of the civil war was MAREHAN VS. MUSLIMS, meanin even Darods like majeerteen were collabrating with the Hawiye.



etc, etc etc.


and then compare when marehan settled back into his region and united for war.


1. The USC and "Kamasle hawiye" (aideed invention to include all raxanweyn, minorites, etc) were broken in Gedo and annihlated.

2. Battle of BeledHawo when Shabeel was killed and Aideed was in hidin for 3 months when he suffered near fatal injuries and 3/4 of his boys were killed.

3. The meanings of Lafa Hawiye (coined by majerten buraanbur ladies for Marehan's backbreak of aideed and hawiyes).

4. Feero Qumumah (self-explanatory)

5. The Liberation of Gaalkacyo to Dhusamareba.

6. The liberation of xaramka to Kismaayo.

then you can talk about marehan and his legacy in the civil war.

[quote] Dawlad
i'm sorry AW but sacad is irrelevent in anything going on. You are proxy use for Puntland vs. ICU.[/quote]

Exactly, like Ceyr was used in Kismaayo. Hope he would understand that and gives his support to ICU.

PS: it is really not easy to invade Puntland at the moment, because Majeerteens always used to dream to be a president and they got it. So, as long as A.Yusuf is on the power and controls Bay, Bakool, and Gedo, it would be very challenging for MJ wadaado to have any political influences in side Puntland. The only chance that would have enabled Islamic Courts to have a base in Galkacyo and other Puntland regions is Al-furkhaan court which is unable to negotiate with their own people.

[quote="COSTA"]That marathon was like 4x400 m relay all Daroods run at once but Mareexaan has started they were the fastest and set new Somali record
[/quote]


you research this point

6. the beginning of the civil war was MAREHAN VS. MUSLIMS, meanin even Darods like majeerteen were collabrating with the Hawiye. only after marehan decided to save their families and leave did the thing become Hawiye vs. Darod which we all said mac sonkor to the majeerteen.

[quote="Wise-Man"][quote] Dawlad
i'm sorry AW but sacad is irrelevent in anything going on. You are proxy use for Puntland vs. ICU.[/quote]

Exactly, like Ceyr was used in Kismaayo. Hope he would understand that and gives his support to ICU.

[/quote]

Wiseman tho I agree with that AW should understand he is proxy and join on the side of the rightous, Cayr never fought for us in Kismaayo and barre hiiraale said long time about majeerteen not wanting to admit defeat to marehans, he siad:


"maxay macna leedahay, waa "nin daad qaaday xumbo cuskey"

[quote="COSTA"]Ethiopians helped Omar xanshi in Hiiraan in the middle of 90 no one called
Xawaadles Ethipian stooges

Ethiopians helped Ina Masale to get rid of Itixaad and Xasan Daahir Aweys
other wise Gedo today would have been like Taliban strong hold
but no one cared

Ethiopian helped Ceydid in 1990 then they were nice neghbours
and Ceyr was glad to have Ethiopian armies

Ethiopian helped Shaati Gaduud and RRA to kick Sacad out of their town

But when Ethiopian army come to Gaalkacyo to train Puntland army every one wil mention

I see you guys have problem with Puntland not Ethiopians
and you have to undrestand ond thing Ethiopia will always be part
of Somali politics till Somalis come together and tell the truth to eachother[/quote]


War Ileen Costa mar mar buu khatar yahay oo runta sheegaa??



Just kidding...but you spelled the eye "Ishaad ka tuurtay".

My eaxct Sentiment.

Sir waa kaa diidey sxb not ever faqash ruled that period so the runing thing is done " exclusively " marexaan

the costa the winner is

[quote="AbdiWahab252"]So aren't the OGaden and Oromos fighting in the ICU military ETHIOPIAN ?

Why not focus on them too[/quote]

These people have their own fronts, why should they fight under ICU in Somalia? Ogaden are Somalis anyways, but otherwise you're making hollow counter claims to cover your filthy azzz.

[quote="COSTA"]Ethiopians helped Omar xanshi in Hiiraan in the middle of 90 no one called
Xawaadles Ethipian stooges

Ethiopians helped Ina Masale to get rid of Itixaad and Xasan Daahir Aweys
other wise Gedo today would have been like Taliban strong hold
but no one cared

Ethiopian helped Ceydid in 1990 then they were nice neghbours Laughing
and Ceyr was glad to have Ethiopian armies

Ethiopian helped Shaati Gaduud and RRA to kick Sacad out of their town

But when Ethiopian army come to Gaalkacyo to train Puntland army every one wil mention

I see you guys have problem with Puntland not Ethiopians
and you have to undrestand ond thing Ethiopia will always be part
of Somali politics till Somalis come together and tell the truth to eachother[/quote]

Costa: I got used to your "qabiilka ugu futo weyne posts" but its good to see you getting serious once in a while


Dowladesade: You have some nerve accusing Puntland of collaborating with xabashi while at the same time ugaaskiina uu niikiniyo tigreyga balanbale qabsatay! In the grand scheme of things in somali politics, marexaan are about as relevant as Garre so while your input is highly entertaining and sometimes borders on fantasy; it is completely unwarranted and you should be ashamed of yourself for even arguing with habar-gedir iyo majeerten who are the powerbrokers of somalia

Wallahi I am deeply saddened that our once united and powerful nation is now the battleground for a proxy war between tigrey injirleey iyo eretrian xayawaan. Its even more depressing that the two proxy entities that are vying for our support leave any patriotic somali between a rock and hard place

Nevertheless i support the government because i dont think those taliban wannabes will ever get us anything other then being blacklisted in the war on terrorism and isolated from the international community

Man fock the international community

I agree though, why condemn the Government for seeking support from Ethiopia and at the same time support the maxkamado when they are getting support from another Xabashi, Eritrea?

Whats the difference between an Ethiopian and an Eritrean?

Everyone who supports the government is labelled a kaafir, and everyone who supports the Maxaakiim is a mujaahid and wadani.

Its hypocrisy.

i'm sorry abooro and i have told you thousands of times. aside from cabdulahi the man who himself is quite irrelevent, majeerteen are as "in" or relevent to somali happenins these days as our isolated isaaq brahs. so while this time you want to get some action you have been missing for a long time and try to get back in national somali media from ur isolated deser, even the sheikh dahir aweys said when asked why puntland is goin crazy and his reply was "there is nothin of importance we are lookin in puntland, we are not even concerened with them except driving qeybdiid out of mudug". i think u know full well the future as well as the present of somalia is in Cayr and Marehan hands, if you didnt i'm sure abdiwahab is there to fill you in...bah bye my has-been irrelevent for a while now brotha


and it is evident ur handicapped adeer realizes that as the most seismic change in his cabinet was the namin of Barre Hiiraale as wasiirka gaashaandiga to start a war btw two friends cayr and marehan no doubt but barre hiiraale as always the shrewd so far decline to be sworn in to the temporary soap opera goin in baidoa..and while in the TRUE scheme of things i wouldnt even respond back to a man of your "background" let me just say YOU my friend are as relevent as your wa gosha and mushunguli ancestors