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Happy Desperado · Post by **Happy Desperado** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:50 pm

its not your parents that make you into a certain religion although they may influence you in great ways when you reach a certain age you start making your own choices but before that you are not accountable.

now as a muslim do you believe that worshiping a god but Allah is wrong? if so, then anyone who does that will not go to heaven but lets say a 5yr old goes to church because they are taken by their parents, they are still considered sinless and if they die they still go to heaven as muslims.

dhuusa_deer · Post by **dhuusa_deer** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:53 pm

[quote="Happy Desperado"]its not your parents that make you into a certain religion [/quote]

they do. we're creatures of habit and if our habitat is pious one, we tend to become religious when we get older.

Happy Desperado · Post by **Happy Desperado** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:55 pm

shocking that you would say that arent you a living example that that is not necessarily true?

dhuusa_deer · Post by **dhuusa_deer** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:58 pm

I'm special! There are oddballs, aberrant bunch in every group. I guess I'm one of 'em.

Happy Desperado · Post by **Happy Desperado** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:00 pm

it goes to show that although you may get influence from all directions the end decision is still your own

fagash_killer · Post by **fagash_killer** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:06 pm

[quote="Happy Desperado"]its not your parents that make you into a certain religion although they may influence you in great ways when you reach a certain age you start making your own choices but before that you are not accountable.

only midgaan, change their tribe, but lets move on

now as a muslim do you believe that worshiping a god but Allah is wrong? if so, then anyone who does that will not go to heaven but lets say a 5yr old goes to church because they are taken by their parents, they are still considered sinless and if they die they still go to heaven as muslims.[/quote]

good analyses, and thats why we say those who are believe in god, but dont whorsip god, are unbelievers, and thats excetly kufaar, this is what stands in the quran 22.12": He calls besides Allah upon that which does not harm him and that which does not profit him, that is the great straying.

i disagree with muslims who are calling jews and christians kufaars, while it stands in the quran 22.17": Surely those who believe and those who are Jews and the Sabeans and the Christians and the Magians and those who associate (others with Allah) -- surely Allah will decide between them on the day of resurrection; surely Allah is a witness over all things.

Happy Desperado · Post by **Happy Desperado** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:10 pm

why did you edit the quote?

fagash_killer · Post by **fagash_killer** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:13 pm

you want to know evrything dont you Laughing

, screw that man, why dont you answer it

Happy Desperado · Post by **Happy Desperado** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:18 pm

i'll take that as a compliment but i still dont understand why you did that

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