The banning of MAD MAC

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

"The Dumb thing about MAC is, he is a member of many many other Somali Websites..

I think the old man needs a straight jacket, his not ok. Seriously, you have way to much time on your hands.. & I bet you he is not like this in real life."

I am not on ANY OTHER Somali websites. Name one.

[Lil_Cutie..]

Shut up. That's what I mean by this Old man talking BulShidh all the time. Drop the act Mac.

Your username is written all over SomaliUK, whether you're still active there or not is irrelevent. The fact still stands.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

It is improbable that I am going to shut up. And whoever is on SomaliUK, it ain't me.

[Lil_Cutie..]

How Ironic "MAD MAC", he also used to bash Muslims--Just before he got banned.



& I am all for the same here.

[Padishah]

Those references you talk about Mad Mac rely on the testimony of the elderly Ibn Ishaq, as all chains of narration originate with him. In his later life, after the death of the Prophet, he moved to Iraq and this is where he 'narrated' the Hadith on which the Aisha controversy is based upon. Every single chain of narration having the '9 year old' schtick comes back to this 73 year old man in Iraq. When the evidence I presented is taken in its totality, it has more weight that what is probably the product of the failing memory of the elderly Ibn Ishaq.

As for the 'womaniser' schtick, read the DEFINITION again and tell me where this involves illicit casual affairs with the other sex. Again, there were 11 wives, Maria being the ONLY one presented as a concubine, and was freed by the Prophet. Zainab bint Khuzaimah was 60, Sawdah was 55, Umm Salamah was 53, Khadijah was 40 and their relationship was monogamous until her death, Safiyah and Raihanah were freed from slavery BEFORE they married the Prophet. All these facts point to the idea that he married these women for other than casual sex. Therefore, 'womaniser' cannot possibly apply.


Anywho, The Screw, I am now for banning Mad Mac. He continues his insults even in the face of reasoned proof! Obviously, he is not in it for the discussion, and only to inflame passions.

[Lil_Cutie..]

[quote="MAD MAC"]Welcome to MuslimHope.com


Muslims will tell you a Muslim man can have up to four wives at a time, based on Sura 4:3. Strictly speaking that is not the complete truth, as a Muslim can also have unlimited concubines and can have sex with "women their right hands possess". (Sura 23:5-6; 33:50,52; 4:24; Sura 70:29-30). Regardless, though, Mohammed recited a verse in the Qur’an (Sura 33:50) that made an exception for one individual: himself. Why is that?

[/quote]


Is this the kinda bullshidh you read? SubxanAllah!!!! I stopped right here, didn't bother reading the rest. Here are the Correct references(there is no point taking the direct verses there because it is incomplete!). Perhaps your taking the "women their right hands possess". Too another level..


Surah 23. The Believers
1. The believers must (eventually) win through,-

2. Those who humble themselves in their prayers;

3. Who avoid vain talk;

4. Who are active in deeds of charity;

5. Who abstain from sex,

6. Except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess,- for (in their case) they are free from blame


Surah 4. Women
23. Prohibited to you (For marriage) are:- Your mothers, daughters, sisters; father's sisters, Mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters; foster-mothers (Who gave you suck), foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom ye have gone in,- no prohibition if ye have not gone in;- (Those who have been) wives of your sons proceeding from your loins; and two sisters in wedlock at one and the same time, except for what is past; for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful;-

24. Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath Allah ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and Allah is All-knowing, All-wise

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

I find it interesting that when accounts demonstrate that Mohammed had sex with a fairly large number of women, they are dismissed, but yet you cling to accounts that put Mohammed in a good light.

Consider that perhaps he was so faithful to Khadijah because she controlled the bank accounts.

Now, I wasn't alive back then. But my instincts tell me, he was definately getting more than his fair share of the nookie. He was the niece he "Married"? She was reportedy a hottie.

What about the myriad of other women? And are you denying he had AT LEAST one concubine?

[#1baller]

[quote="MAD MAC"]I find it interesting that when accounts demonstrate that Mohammed had sex with a fairly large number of women, they are dismissed, but yet you cling to accounts that put Mohammed in a good light.

Consider that perhaps he was so faithful to Khadijah because she controlled the bank accounts.

Now, I wasn't alive back then. But my instincts tell me, he was definately getting more than his fair share of the nookie. He was the niece he "Married"? She was reportedy a hottie.

What about the myriad of other women? And are you denying he had AT LEAST one concubine?[/quote]

Mac,

This is why I get into these somalis here because they always get defensive when someone puts proven facts on the table. Its almost as if they're blinded by focking ignorance or lack of knowledge. They see what they wanna see even wit tha facts right under their noses

[Alluring]

[quote="#1baller"][quote="MAD MAC"]I find it interesting that when accounts demonstrate that Mohammed had sex with a fairly large number of women, they are dismissed, but yet you cling to accounts that put Mohammed in a good light.

Consider that perhaps he was so faithful to Khadijah because she controlled the bank accounts.

Now, I wasn't alive back then. But my instincts tell me, he was definately getting more than his fair share of the nookie. He was the niece he "Married"? She was reportedy a hottie.

What about the myriad of other women? And are you denying he had AT LEAST one concubine?[/quote]

Mac,

This is why I get into these somalis here because they always get defensive when someone puts proven facts on the table. Its almost as if they're blinded by focking ignorance or lack of knowledge. They see what they wanna see even wit tha facts right under their noses [/quote]

If you don't like how Somalis, are than get your ASS out of here!

[#1baller]

[quote="Alluring"][quote="#1baller"][quote="MAD MAC"]

If you don't like how Somalis, are than get your ASS out of here![/quote]

When did i say I didn't like somalis??? You prove how stupid you are with each post. Keep fueling my dislike for you biatch!!!

[neocon_2007]

[quote="MAD MAC"]I find it interesting that when accounts demonstrate that Mohammed had sex with a fairly large number of women, they are dismissed, but yet you cling to accounts that put Mohammed in a good light.

Consider that perhaps he was so faithful to Khadijah because she controlled the bank accounts.

Now, I wasn't alive back then. But my instincts tell me, he was definately getting more than his fair share of the nookie. He was the niece he "Married"? She was reportedy a hottie.

What about the myriad of other women? And are you denying he had AT LEAST one concubine?[/quote]

Concubines wtf MAD MAC keep your interpretations of whatever version of the Quran to yourself.

[Alluring]

Do you think I HONESTLY care about if you like me or not, maybe you forgot jareer but this is the internet, you are GONE when I turned my computer off.

All you do is complain about how Somalis are this and that...If you have a problem with the way we are...get your monkey ass out of here.

[biko]

Love is in the air
Everywhere I look around
Love is in the air
Every sight and every sound

[#1baller]

[quote="Alluring"]"Do you think I HONESTLY care about if you like me or not, maybe you forgot jareer but this is the internet, you are GONE when I turned my computer off."

Quit lieing biaatch!!! u do give a damn bout what i say...else you'd never respond to any of my posts or follow me around the way you do.


"All you do is complain about how Somalis are this and that...If you have a problem with the way we are...get your monkey ass out of here."

Don't get it twisted .....ya dumb a$$ prolly got mo' monkey features than I do since I'm a biracial product and you are 1000% African.

[#1baller]

[quote="neocon_2007"][quote="MAD MAC"]I find it interesting that when accounts demonstrate that Mohammed had sex with a fairly large number of women, they are dismissed, but yet you cling to accounts that put Mohammed in a good light.

Consider that perhaps he was so faithful to Khadijah because she controlled the bank accounts.

Now, I wasn't alive back then. But my instincts tell me, he was definately getting more than his fair share of the nookie. He was the niece he "Married"? She was reportedy a hottie.

What about the myriad of other women? And are you denying he had AT LEAST one concubine?[/quote]

Concubines wtf MAD MAC keep your interpretations of whatever version of the Quran to yourself.[/quote]

I think Mac posted a link to his findings by an Islamic scholar unlike Padishah who gave an opinion without a legal source. I think its self explanatory don't ya think?