is somaliweyn a myth?

[Cilmiile]

XaarPlaya

You stupid xaarxajis scum you are the one who said that Daarood didnt have a hero until 1940 and I just essayed for you a history that stretches from 1521 to the present day. Starting with Axmed Gurey and ending with Cabdilaahi Yuusuf the hero that re-established Somali State(and soon to be welcomed and feted in Hargeysa )

Go back to school or take some medical supplement to aid your comprehension. You desperately need it. Although the malady is one that afflicts your entire xaarxajis so it is not easily fixed, this congenital mental defect.

[gurey25]

you are confusing xarla with harla.

the harla are the adaris or hararis,

now if you are saying that darood are decendants of the harla and not your shiekh jabarti then thats fine.

unfortunately this will not give you claim to ahmed gurey becuase he was not adari, he was not from the walasham dynasty, he was a regular soldier that made a coup d'etat and took over the state.

since the army of adal was full of afar and somalis he is most likley to be from the dir or the afar.

[kadarre]

Gurey,

Koombe waa wax leysku xaabiyay.

[Navy9]

[quote="Cilmiile"][quote="Navy9"][quote="Cilmiile>> XarPlaya

Axmed Gurey was Daarood and all his armies were Daarood. [/quote]

"There are numerous passages in the Futuh where Imam Ahmad and the Somali people are mentioned together, and never once does 'Arab Faqih mention the ethnic connection. Further, the Somali warriors are described as having fled during the Battle of Shimbra Kure; had the Imam been Somali, would the Futuh which otherwise praises the Imam at every turn, mention this embarrassing detail?"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_ibn_Ibrihim_al-Ghazi[/quote]


Xarla Koombe dont speak Somali. That is why the Arab guy was confused. He mistook the Imaam's lack of facility with Somaali language as evidence of ethnic dissimilarity. The Imaam was Xarla Koombe and Xarla Koombe are the brothers of the might Harti Koombe, the natural rulers of Somalis.[/quote]


Well, I know that Harla Kombe(xarla) live in ethiopia but seriously, isn't it funny that a scholar will miss sucha simple point. For God's sake---think for a second and come up with a better excuse!

[gurey25]

xarla koombe do not speak somali now ,, but how do you know if they spoke it 500 years ago?
sections of the Gurgura in Dire Dawa and even your xarla koomba speak Oromo today,

this is becuase they have been surrounded by Oromos since the 1600's.

[Cilmiile]

[quote="Navy9"][quote="Cilmiile"][quote="Navy9"][quote="Cilmiile>> XarPlaya

Axmed Gurey was Daarood and all his armies were Daarood. [/quote]

"There are numerous passages in the Futuh where Imam Ahmad and the Somali people are mentioned together, and never once does 'Arab Faqih mention the ethnic connection. Further, the Somali warriors are described as having fled during the Battle of Shimbra Kure; had the Imam been Somali, would the Futuh which otherwise praises the Imam at every turn, mention this embarrassing detail?"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_ibn_Ibrihim_al-Ghazi[/quote]


Xarla Koombe dont speak Somali. That is why the Arab guy was confused. He mistook the Imaam's lack of facility with Somaali language as evidence of ethnic dissimilarity. The Imaam was Xarla Koombe and Xarla Koombe are the brothers of the might Harti Koombe, the natural rulers of Somalis.[/quote]


Well, I know that Harla Kombe(xarla) live in ethiopia but seriously, isn't it funny that a scholar will miss sucha simple point. For God's sake---think for a second and come up with a better excuse! [/quote]


Navy9

sister why dont youi just go ahead and adjust your makeup or buy some glossy lipstic from an internet vendor and leave the tribal politics to us.

Wont you be a dear and exit the discussion

[Navy9]

oooh, adeer is side kicking

[King-of-Awdal]

As usuall i see CilmiiLe arguing about some shit he doesnt know nothin off. again darood never set a foot in Boraame until 1975 until said barre came into power let alone saylac or harrare. u guyz are ignorant even the habar awals who are soo close in proximity to us didnt go that far north into our terriorty so where these darood living more than a thousand miles away from us come to awdal from. as for marexaan it is a true known fact that when their favorite leader the late saide came into power he basically rewrote alot of history to make his tribe much more superior and influential than it ever was just to please himself.

[Warsame101]

[quote="X.Playa"]

There was no Kablalax at all mentioned in Fatax Al Xabasha you were not even born yet never mind Magaado been lumped together at least all 4 western Isaaq clans were mentioned even sub-clans as Habar Awal some 500 years ago and even their sultan. The only Kuumbo clan that was breifly mentioned were the Mareexaan who rebbelled against the Imaam and had to be taught a lesson and a lesson they were taught, they fled the fighting and they were brought back in line by force and corecion. [/quote]


, Xplaya, why do you feel the need to distort one of the events discussed in Sihab ad-Din Axmed's work?

It was the Habar Magaadle who rebelled after failing to pay the taxes imposed on them. The Imaam sent a small group of the Gerri to subdue them and bring them under submission

Mareexaan consisted the bulk of his army and were his most dedicated army led by his closest general Hiraab.


Partitioned Africans: Ethnic Relations Across Africa's International Boundries, 1884-1984:
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[King-of-Awdal]

[quote="Warsame101"][quote="X.Playa"]

There was no Kablalax at all mentioned in Fatax Al Xabasha you were not even born yet never mind Magaado been lumped together at least all 4 western Isaaq clans were mentioned even sub-clans as Habar Awal some 500 years ago and even their sultan. The only Kuumbo clan that was breifly mentioned were the Mareexaan who rebbelled against the Imaam and had to be taught a lesson and a lesson they were taught, they fled the fighting and they were brought back in line by force and corecion. [/quote]


, Xplaya, why do you feel the need to distort one of the events discussed in Sihab ad-Din Axmed's work?

It was the Habar Magaadle who rebelled after failing to pay the taxes imposed on them. The Imaam sent a small group of the Gerri to subdue them and bring them under submission

Mareexaan consisted the bulk of his army and were his most dedicated army led by his closest general Hiraab.[/quote]

Ok i hope u actually have read the book Sihab ad-Din because that book actually never mentions him to be a somali rather alone a wht ever ur naming him to be the only closest thing it mention to him is his wife Bati del Wambara who is infact an Essa.