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Re: Why do most tribes hate on the Hawiye tribe(s)?

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:04 pm
by King-of-Awdal
[quote="QansaGabeyle"]Hawiye is hated because of iljeexda booli qaadka ah.[/quote]


immediate translation required. Cool

Re: Why do most tribes hate on the Hawiye tribe(s)?

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:05 pm
by Alchemist
[quote="jamalllll"][quote="Alchemist"]I love Hawiye Very Happy[/quote]

Sure you do ,you can't fight the world with your principals so you seek help from the tribe
Hmmmmmmmmmm does that remind you of hyenas, individually they shit on themselves but in a crowd .......................how brave ,

They can't hunt for themselves but let a lion hunt and they 'll come in a big crowd making funny noises until the lion gives up his well earned meal.

Collectivists have a deep insecurity in their abilities --what a shame.

Bro each must stand on his own two feet ,if not in the dunya then definately in akhiro.[/quote]


Man whats wrong with you? all i said was i love Hawiye nothing else, I dont understand why your lecturing me about lions and hyenas.. Laughing ... Calm down bro...I think your taking things too serious..

Re: Why do most tribes hate on the Hawiye tribe(s)?

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:20 pm
by jamalllll
[quote="Alchemist"][quote="jamalllll"][quote="Alchemist"]I love Hawiye Very Happy[/quote]

Sure you do ,you can't fight the world with your principals so you seek help from the tribe
Hmmmmmmmmmm does that remind you of hyenas, individually they shit on themselves but in a crowd .......................how brave ,

They can't hunt for themselves but let a lion hunt and they 'll come in a big crowd making funny noises until the lion gives up his well earned meal.

Collectivists have a deep insecurity in their abilities --what a shame.

Bro each must stand on his own two feet ,if not in the dunya then definately in akhiro.[/quote]



Man whats wrong with you? all i said was i love Hawiye nothing else, I dont understand why your lecturing me about lions and hyenas.. Laughing ... Calm down bro...I think your taking things too serious..[/quote]


I DO SINCERELY APPOLOGISE BRO, RAMADAN KARIIM BRO, SORRY GOT ANGERED BY TRIBALISTS EARLIER ON.

Re: Why do most tribes hate on the Hawiye tribe(s)?

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:27 pm
by King-of-Awdal
I HATE SAMAROON IF THAT WILL MAKE U GUYZ HAPPY. Cool

Re: Why do most tribes hate on the Hawiye tribe(s)?

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:33 pm
by QansaGabeyle
What does samaroon mean?

Re: Why do most tribes hate on the Hawiye tribe(s)?

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:39 pm
by King-of-Awdal
[quote="QansaGabeyle"]What does samaroon mean?[/quote]


Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

Just Google Sheik samaroon saciid and u shall be satisfied. Laughing

Re: Why do most tribes hate on the Hawiye tribe(s)?

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:41 pm
by QansaGabeyle
So Samaroon is the name of a shiekh? What was he? In what time period did he live? What was his racial identity?

Re: Why do most tribes hate on the Hawiye tribe(s)?

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:49 pm
by King-of-Awdal
[quote="QansaGabeyle"]So Samaroon is the name of a shiekh? What was he? In what time period did he live? What was his racial identity?[/quote]


Imam Samaroon Said 1432 AD when the Amhara cruseaders conquered Somali, Iman Said was the muslim leader who led the Madanluug Dir and when the imam was later fighting in the Westren flank of the Guurey army he was injured at dardarley.

The name Gadabuursi was given to his descendents at the last critical moment before he made a final stand to the Amhara at the mandaluug ancestral homeland of Amuud which was destroyed over 50,000 homes where excuvated recently and the place was leveled with the ground 10, 000 thousands perished.



that should help u. most folkz know us as Gadabuursi meaning the ones who united and u can still find the graves at Amoud today of all those who died that day and u can find many things such as the city of Amoud the neigbourhood of Amoud and the university of Amoud in Borame.

Re: Why do most tribes hate on the Hawiye tribe(s)?

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:56 pm
by QansaGabeyle
I read Futah al Habash and there was no mention of a mundulug dir in that book. Did they go by another name or something? And if the Shiekh/Imam was leading this clan, does this mean the gudabiirse/samaroon are dir? What happened to all the brother subclans of the gudabursi?

Re: Why do most tribes hate on the Hawiye tribe(s)?

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:10 pm
by King-of-Awdal
[quote="QansaGabeyle"]I read Futah al Habash and there was no mention of a mundulug dir in that book. Did they go by another name or something? And if the Shiekh/Imam was leading this clan, does this mean the gudabiirse/samaroon are dir? What happened to all the brother subclans of the gudabursi?[/quote]


The book does mention sheikh samaroon and what brother subclans of gudabursi are u talking about. there was three samaroon clans and there is still three sub clans of samaroon and yes we are Dir and are descendants from him as it is said Dir was the first somali to land in Zeila and the tomb of sheik samaroon still exsists.

Re: Why do most tribes hate on the Hawiye tribe(s)?

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:16 pm
by malakul mawt
waa suaal qaldan suaahaas, it's an ignorant question.maxaa nacayb keenay somali miyaynan somali ahayn.pls come up with somethin else useful

Re: Why do most tribes hate on the Hawiye tribe(s)?

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:21 pm
by QansaGabeyle
Can you hook me up with the version/translation of that book that you read because I didn't see any dir clans or samaroone being mentioned anywhere. Better yet just point me to where I can cop a copy of that particular edition.

Re: Why do most tribes hate on the Hawiye tribe(s)?

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:22 pm
by King-of-Awdal
Hadii aan ka hadlo magaca Gadabuursigu waa naanays ku timid mar ay degaal kala dhex mareen qoomiyada Itoobiyaan ahaa ee la odhan jiray Galada mar ay islaayeen Boqortooyadii (Xamadu-Diin) halkaasi oo ay si goon ah ay ugu soo duuleen Qoomiyadaasi oo ay kolkaasi iska kaashadeen dadka Somaliyeed ee markaasi ka tirsanan jiray (Xamadu-Diin Empire)ee deganaa Gado halkaasi oo markii hore ay dadka somlaiyeed ay degaan ku ahaan jireen markii danbe ee farcankii soo badanayo ayaa waxa suurto gashay in ay u soo guuran dadka Samaroonku Deganka rasmiga ah ee hada degan yihin halkaasi waxaa lagu jabiyay Gaala (Oromo)sidaa darteed waxaa halkaasi ugu baxday labo magac oo kala ah markii hore ee ciidan ka uu soo kaxaystay oo loo bixiya (Gado-biirsay) iyo markii kale ee uu guulaystay oo loo bixiyay (Samroon) maga dhabtaana waa (Sheekh Muxumed)sida uu qoroyo buuga (Futuxul Xabash) waxaa uu ka soo jeeda Sheekh Muxumed Carabta oo aad ka heli kartaa taariikhda rasmiga ah ee bilaw ilaa dhamaan Sheekh Muxumed Ilaahay ha u naxaristee.

Re: Why do most tribes hate on the Hawiye tribe(s)?

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:50 pm
by malakul mawt
king of awdal sheeko aan la maqal aanan la arag ayaad ka hadlaysaa,marka hore magacu waa gudo biirsay, waxayna tahay waa dad is birsaday oo ka kala yimi meelo fara badan oo wada afrika ah hal meelna carab kama soo galaan,waxaana u badan jaziirada sycheles iyo comoro island. marka ninyahaw naga daa sheekada baha bahada.ta kale meeshaa awdal wax sheekha laguma sheegin sixir mooyaane.............

Re: Why do most tribes hate on the Hawiye tribe(s)?

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:51 pm
by DawladSade
Gedobursi=Gedo laga bursaday