1 million people, how do you feel?

[Starscream]

[quote="Alluring"]AW

With that adoon face of yours, I am surprised anyone can tell the difference between you and a piece of shit on the floor.

Somaliweyn

If you want to debate, I am up for it. But you will be wearing diapers by the time I am done with you.[/quote]

[fagash_killer]

[quote="Luq_Ganane"]The one thing I don't understand is this: Why don't the fighters LEAVE the city, go into the wilderness and beisege the Ethiopians in the capitol? Attack their convoys, bases, choke of their supplies etc. This is the brilliant strategy the ONLF employs and thats why their resistance is so effective, as they sometmes kill columns of Eithos at a time. Fighting INSIDE the city is disasterous for the civilian population, and ultimately not that effective as opposed to the other method. I really think the resistance needs to change their method to this, because the civilians are going through hell.[/quote]

its a prove that these killers are the same as the one in the 90ste undisclipned moryaan robbers are they so they dont give a shit if ppl are dieing but this time they made a new movie with new different kind of style. they are hiding and using their tribal card their goal is to take so many innocent somalis with them once that happens they want to unite (beesha hawiye) by putting their fingers at the ethiopians and the tfg i see these guys as jerry was to tom.if they would fight outside the city they would lose men they could be eassily destoyed from the sky thats why it was eassily for the ethiopian soldiers to push them back to muqadisho but the aggressors dont want peace they know they lost so they are fighting a lost battle already the only thing they have in their mind is to recapture their socalled cities home and their seats and their little kingdom back .but thank god the ppl realised that on time and thats why they are ready to protect their homes of these wolfs . now they are beeing unmasked are they running away why not fight and stay thats how you discover a wolf in a sheep's clothing. but ofcourse the supports of the cult leaders dont see it on time ore are to blind on tribalism to see it may god heal us all of this cudur


the article speaks for it self


Cleanse the Vandals from Mogadishu!

Abdulaziz Mohammed
Sunday, November 18, 2007




The insurgency of doom, the holders of a state hostage and Al-Qaeda copycats have been busy in Mogadishu for months now in their shameful, killing spree, among other things. While the rest of southern Somalia, including most of Mogadishu neighborhoods, is at peace, few pockets in Mogadishu—where these vandals had found safe heaven and from which they devise and launch daily terror on the rest of the city—had become the sole obstacle to the full resurrection of the Somali state. All peaceful efforts to dissuade them from their insistent destructive ways had been to no avail.



From their military terror wing, contrary to the Somali code-of-conduct of war, both from cultural and religion point of reference, nothing would be a taboo, a line not to cross, in their methods of killing and the treatment of their enemy’s dead. Somalis have never been known to be as people who would shrink from a fight or to display cowardice in the face of an enemy. Equally and more importantly, Somalis have conducted themselves in war with utmost honor and dignity. Consider for a moment the following story as it relates to war: There were to Somali sub-clans at war, and warriors from one of the sub-clans had captured a man from the other sub-clan; instead of killing him, one of the hostage holders suggested to cut off his “balls.” The victim upon hearing what was to be done to him said to them “waa inoo xeer,” which means this would be the “code-of-conduct” of war between us then. The flash in their minds of such horrific act done to them and their fellow warriors, if they were to find themselves in the hands of their enemy, had made them to rethink it. Instead, they done the honorable in war time, they killed the man.




Somalis crowd around the body of an Ethiopian soldier after is was dragged through the streets of Mogadishu - AFP
The desecration of the dead of the enemy, for instance, no matter whom and how despicable the enemy might have been, by dismembering or dragging it through the streets had never been associated with the Somalis until these barbarians had employed it. Of course, these terror tactics had produced the desired outcome for them thugs before, when their victims were American soldiers, as Washington, horrified, hastily decided to cut its losses and remove its military forces from Mogadishu during its Restore Hope operation in Somalia—for fear of being seen, if it were to involve in deeper quagmire, as the ‘Great America’ oppressing poor black Africans. As they are finding it out now, however, this dog won’t hunt, sort of speak, this time with the Tigre soldiers. Unfortunately, the Tigre soldiers had decided to practice reciprocity in brutality and desecration.



Another shameful tactic, a new one at that, is dispensed by their propagandist political wing. This is the false claim of speaking for “beesha Hawiye.” As a Somali, I never thought I would live to hear such unmitigated nonsense. As if all Hawiye, one of the Somali major clans, was all gathered under one roof, and after much deliberation, some of its members appointed to speak for the rest, is this what we are to believe? This from the very criminals who had no qualms, when it suited them, to bombard with artillery shells their own fellow Hawiye and turn Mogadishu into a bloodbath. Obviously, all Somalis know better.



To use the Hawiye name to further their aim of vetoing the reinstitution of the Somali state and to continue lawlessness, chaos and state of impunity is to denigrate all the good works of Hawiye who were the founding fathers of the Somali state. They were the founders and the members of Somali resistance movements, like the Somali Youth Club (SYC) which later became the Somali Youth League (SYL), against the colonial powers. After independence, Somalis would elect freely and overwhelmingly President Adan Abdulle Osman, a patriot and a nationalist Somali of the Hawiye. As the news came to all Somalis on the death of this former president at the age of 99 years this last June, nothing but praise and adulation was expressed for this gentle of a man from all his fellow Somalis.



Remember General Daud—the first Somali with the rank of general in the first Somali Army; a man, another Hawiye, who became the vanguard against enemies within and without to the Somali nation; to this day and forever, all Somalis anywhere hold him as a Somali hero. He must be turning with anger in his grave! In addition, Abdullahi Ciise, yet another Hawiye, chairman of the Somali Youth League (SYL) and later the first prime Minster of Somalia. These are but a few of many from Hawiye who sacrificed so much to establish, build, maintain and protect with their lives Qarannimo Somaliyeed (Somali nationalism and state). How disgusting that some of the Hawiye lately had dishonored the legacy of above mentioned true Somali patriots by contributing to and maintaining of the downfall of the Somali state. The good news is that the majority of the Hawiye had caught up with the lies of these vandals and they are now willing to put an end to them once and for all.



It pains me to hear about more deaths of innocent Somalis, as they are caught between the hoodlums who would provoke the TFG and its allies and then hide behind women and children and the response these thugs would invoke, which is usually a deadly firepower. They gangs set it up: the scenario in which more civilian deaths will occur and more people will flee, so that they would get populace support. They feed on mayhem and chaos, make no mistakes about it, they could care less about the deaths of civilians. What are the Government and its allies to do in such situation? Just take the daily dose of deadly blows—of police stations attacked, grenades lapped, mines planted, assassinations performed and mortars aimed and fired at government buildings— and not respond! I had not even mentioned what the residents of Mogadishu endure at the hands of these saboteurs. No mercy for the merciless, I say, and sooner they are done with, the sooner people in Mogadishu could sleep in peace, the sooner children could go to school and their only worry would be about their homework—the sooner debris and rubble will be removed from allover the city, the sooner businesses will flourish, the sooner normal daily life and its issues will resume; oh, how I long for that for Xamar Cadday!



There is another alternative for the so-called insurgency, which is for them to lay down their weapons and comeback to the fold; come and take your rightful place at the political table. None of the TFG members are without blood in their hands, but at least the warlords have come, by force—and some by choice—from the Union of Islamic courts (UIC), to abandon their warlordship and have been willing to be part of the effort to remake the Somali state. I don’t like a bit the makeup of the TFG, but if it serves in the interim peace and order, I—as a Somali—am grateful for that!



If on the other hand, you the insurgency is to insist in continuing this violence, which has only achieved more hardship for our innocent civilians, then you are without a doubt the enemy of Somali statehood! If your true objective is to see the end of this brutal Ethiopian presence on Somali soil, then by ceasing your mindless violence, Ethiopia will have no excuse but leave Somalia. If they don’t, I and the rest of the Somalis will join you to forcibly eject them out. If you do not stop this violence, then you are clearly using “Ethiopia,” that great historical enemy of the Somalis, as an excuse for your continued need to quench your addiction to lies, violence and mob rule; for all I know you too well, if these were Pakistani soldiers, our brothers in faith, instead of the Tigre, you would be doing exactly the same. Did not you already massacre the UN Pakistani soldiers in Mogadishu? Huh! Proof me wrong!


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Abdulaziz Mohammed

Maqiiq23@sbcglobal.net

[xoogSADE14]

Pride

There are no "Sade sympathizers". We Mareexaans don't have to kill anybody on behalf of the TPLF and neither will we help out the mooryaans in Xamar. The USC invaded our homelands and we destroyed them without help from any other Somali clan so we don't have any grduges sxb.

The TFG and the Hutus can go at each other till the end of time for all we care. We're focused on building our regions and securing a better future for our kids.

[MJ-Pride]

Col/Xoogsade,
Salaan Sare Saaxiib. Thsi is what you get when you have different ideologies. I wasn't actually referring you nor the marehans I know. This is was for the bipolar marehan members ie dawarsade, Sadaam, iyo SADEBIO

[Starscream]

[quote="xoogSADE14"]
The TFG and the Hutus can go at each other till the end of time for all we care. We're focused on building our regions and securing a better future for our kids.[/quote]


That is selfish. These are your fellow people that are dying in Mogadishu like flies. You need to change your attitude, nobody can go forward if some of us are left behind.

[biko]

BETRAYAL AND TREACHERY WEIGHT THE SAME IN "SIN" AS SODOMY!!!


so on judgement day CY will be standing right next to Elton John.

their conversation will go something like this...

CY: so what did you do?

EJ: oh, i use to get on all four; what about you?

CY: nothing seriouse realy, other than hold my people down for Ethiopian troops to hit them from the back; and boy did they hit them or did they hit them...and nothing and no one was spared.

[Luq_Ganane]

Somaliweyn,

My point is the Ethiopians will take their wrath out on the civilians ANYWAY no matter what. Either way your screwed. The reason I mentioned leaving the city was for inflicting maximum damage to the enemy. Do you really think 30,000 Oromos in secure baracades and itchy Tank trigger fingers, will care if some kid with lousy aim fires on him from behind a Mother's house? Those Oromos turn the Tanks around and level the whole city to the ground. Yes Meles carpet bombs Ogadeenis and punishes the civilians population, but the ONLF resistance is the toughest by far, and they inflict the most damage to the Ethiopians. Thats why Meles actually devotes the bulk of his forces there, as he really just has 30,000 in Xamar which is really a small number for Ethiopia. Fighting on the city does not hurt your more heavilly armed enemy as they don't mind razing the whole city to the ground. The most effective is to leave it, and choke them off from the contryside. Besides its not these fighters are stopping the Tigray from doing what they want in Xamar anyway, so they'd might as well leave it.


By the way, like Sadeboi said; Barre has not done ANYTHING to you and is the least of your problems. Focus on the warlords who are killing you RIGHT NOW (Qeybadid, Mohamed Dhere) and don't spend time vilifying a guy like Barre who has not done any harm to the people of Xamar, just because he happens to be Marexaan you simpleton.

[Dr.Galbeyte.]

[quote="Starscream"][quote="AbdiWahab252"]Starscream,

How do u in your community deal with the likes of Somalian Boqor who sully your qabiil's name[/quote]


They don't take me seriously sxb. If you don't agree, you're a novice to them who has much to learn, naive because you're a hawiye-lover. A shame to the Majeerteen name.


I got used to it.[/quote]

Serious

[sadeboi]

Somaliweyn, when people fight in residential areas even if they are a resistance they too are part of the problem and and have some blame of innocents getting killed, you cannot deny that al-shabab is fighting in heavily residential areas when they could fight a real guerilla war where innocent civilians would not get killed.

Tan kale, you have no reason to speak about Barre in that way and he has not done anything for or against your cause, he does not want to involve himself in it, so for you to even say stuff about him is just plain retarded. Gardarrada iska ilaali. Meeting with Ethiopians does not mean you work with them, how many times did the "patriotic hawiyes" meet with Ethiopians colonels, how many agreements have they signed together to cooperate? Even recently they said they will work with the TFG and Ethiopia. So what does that entail? Does that not mean that the "patriotic hawiyes" are actually part of the banadir-traitors?



[quote]Once again we have SADE sympathizers. At the begging of the occupation, they were all happy to see Hawiye suffer but when things turned sour, they are crying foul. Either be with Muqaawama and help them out financially, militarily or by any means necessary or distance yourselves. Are you doing this to save face? Also Most Marehans actually are glad to see and I am sure most daroods are except Ogaden are happy to see this. There is no need to hide People.[/quote]

Listen here simpleton, I supported the helping hand Ethiopia gave to the TFG when they were fighting the ICU who had mercenaries, money, and weapons from other countries and oraganizations; I did not care for what happened to the Habergider/hawiye fighters and supporters of the ICU who used religion to kill and divide the people; as an INDIVIDUAL I cannot support the killing of innocents (caused by both parties), the mass exodus of women, children, and elderly, and be content with the suffering of so many people. If Hawiyes laughed at my people when we were in this situation or did not care its ok because THEY ARE NOT MY TEACHERS AND I AM NOT THEIR PUPIL; they're actions do not dictate mines.

[Starscream]

[quote="Dr.Galbeyte."][quote="Starscream"][quote="AbdiWahab252"]Starscream,

How do u in your community deal with the likes of Somalian Boqor who sully your qabiil's name[/quote]


They don't take me seriously sxb. If you don't agree, you're a novice to them who has much to learn, naive because you're a hawiye-lover. A shame to the Majeerteen name.


I got used to it.[/quote]

Serious [/quote]


What?

[Shirib]

99% TFG & Ethiopians fault

1% Shabaab and Resistance fighters.

You fight were the enemy is. The enemy isn't in baadiyo. They are all in Xamar. Attacking them from Baydhabo to Xamar is good though

Last time brave fighter where in baadiyo AC-130 gunships bombed the hell out of them.

[sadeboi]

[quote]99% TFG & Ethiopians fault

1% Shabaab and Resistance fighters.
[/quote]

How inaccurate and biased.

[Dr.Galbeyte.]

Starscream .. if you mean that.. then respect sxb

if your a B!tch ass ethiopian flag carrier ! Boyaka shaak

[Shirib]

[quote="sadeboi"][quote]99% TFG & Ethiopians fault

1% Shabaab and Resistance fighters.
[/quote]

How inaccurate and biased.[/quote]

Whats your biased opinion.

[sadeboi]

Shirib your sitting behind me and I already explained what I think.