Rebellion against rulers

[Hassan_Al_Basri01]

[quote="Shirib"][quote="Hassan_Al_Basri01"]Shaykhul islam,Muhammad ibn Wahhab r.a rebelled against corrupt amirs. UIC did well job to rebell against corrupt emirs(not emir) but they wronged themselves to rebel against muslim who was chosen by the parliman[/quote]

How is it right to rebell against corrupt emirs who are in parliment but wrong to rebell against another emir who was chosen by the same corrupt parliment.


I usually don't ask this but are you by any chance Majeerteen, answer the question and don't lie I can guarantee you that is haraam.[/quote]
There cant be two amirs. Before the rulership of Abdullahi yusuf,there was corruption in somalia. Every warlord being the amir.Now the somali parliment chosed Abdullahi Yusuf as the succesor of Abdiqasim Salad Hassan. We arent allowed to pick swords against him .
If you love Allah,dont ask me about tribes!

[The_Patriot]

^^So if i love Allah it should be fine for the mosques to be turned into toilets,
civilians to be raped?

[Hassan_Al_Basri01]

[quote="abdi.ismail"][quote="Hassan_Al_Basri01"][quote="abdi.ismail"]Koronto you are right. But in theory Hassan is right as well. you are not allowed in islam under any circumstances except open apostacy, to rebel against your leader full stop. But since Abdilahi yusuf is a gaal, then its perfectly alright to rebel.[/quote]

and say not to anyone who greets you :"You are not a believer".
Can you bring any tape wherein our ruler says that he left islam?[/quote]

IS NOT THE FACT THAT HE SENDS SOMALIS TO KILL OTHERS SOMALIS ENOUGH. THE FACT THAT HE INTRODUCED AIDS SPREADING APES AND KUFFAAR TO OUR COUNTRY, THE FACT THEY KILL INNOCENT MUSLIM SOMALIS EVERYDAY, THE FACT THAT HE IS A QABILISTIC JEW, THE FACT THAT THEY WRITE THERE DISGUSTING HANDHIKAAB WORDS ON THE HOUSE OF ALLAH, THE FACT THAT THEY POO ALL OVER THE HOUSE OF ALLAH![/quote]

He is indeed a immoral and unjust ruler but not worse than Hajjaj,for he[Hajjaj] shed blood in the blessed city Makkah.Never did Abdullah ibn Abbas and Abdullah ibn Umar lable him as kaafir?!

[Hassan_Al_Basri01]

[quote="The_Patriot"]^^So if i love Allah it should be fine for the mosques to be turned into toilets,
civilians to be raped?[/quote]

The kuffars army did that. Did our AMEER approve of their actions?
Soon they will be replaced.

[The_Patriot]

[quote="Hassan_Al_Basri01"][quote="The_Patriot"]^^So if i love Allah it should be fine for the mosques to be turned into toilets,
civilians to be raped?[/quote]

The kuffars army did that. Did our AMEER approve of their actions?
Soon they will be replaced.[/quote]
warya you are on crack or something worse

[Koronto91]

Hassan Al-Jadiidi,

Nothing you say surprises me, because you are brainwashed by a sect that serves a political purpose:

-Stop any form of Islamic political progress.

-Speak on behalf on America & their puppet governments.

-Discredit renowned Islamic scholars such as Sh. Umal & Qardawi, while promoting others like Fowzan & Hajoori who speak for America.

The fact that you still cling on to a hadeeth that says do not fight Muslim leaders who rule by Shari'ah and reject verses from the Qur'an proves to everyone of your lack of faith and ignorance.

Stop embarrassing yourself, the Salafi Jadiid sect will not progress, insha Allah.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

[quote="Hassan_Al_Basri01"][quote="abdi.ismail"][quote="Hassan_Al_Basri01"][quote="abdi.ismail"]Koronto you are right. But in theory Hassan is right as well. you are not allowed in islam under any circumstances except open apostacy, to rebel against your leader full stop. But since Abdilahi yusuf is a gaal, then its perfectly alright to rebel.[/quote]

and say not to anyone who greets you :"You are not a believer".
Can you bring any tape wherein our ruler says that he left islam?[/quote]

IS NOT THE FACT THAT HE SENDS SOMALIS TO KILL OTHERS SOMALIS ENOUGH. THE FACT THAT HE INTRODUCED AIDS SPREADING APES AND KUFFAAR TO OUR COUNTRY, THE FACT THEY KILL INNOCENT MUSLIM SOMALIS EVERYDAY, THE FACT THAT HE IS A QABILISTIC JEW, THE FACT THAT THEY WRITE THERE DISGUSTING HANDHIKAAB WORDS ON THE HOUSE OF ALLAH, THE FACT THAT THEY POO ALL OVER THE HOUSE OF ALLAH![/quote]


He is indeed a immoral and unjust ruler but not worse than Hajjaj,for he[Hajjaj] shed blood in the blessed city Makkah.Never did Abdullah ibn Abbas and Abdullah ibn Umar lable him as kaafir?![/quote]


You Make a good case Hassan, you have swayed me. by the way where are you from?

[Hassan_Al_Basri01]

[quote="abdi.ismail"][quote="Hassan_Al_Basri01"][quote="abdi.ismail"][quote="Hassan_Al_Basri01"][quote="abdi.ismail"]Koronto you are right. But in theory Hassan is right as well. you are not allowed in islam under any circumstances except open apostacy, to rebel against your leader full stop. But since Abdilahi yusuf is a gaal, then its perfectly alright to rebel.[/quote]

and say not to anyone who greets you :"You are not a believer".
Can you bring any tape wherein our ruler says that he left islam?[/quote]

IS NOT THE FACT THAT HE SENDS SOMALIS TO KILL OTHERS SOMALIS ENOUGH. THE FACT THAT HE INTRODUCED AIDS SPREADING APES AND KUFFAAR TO OUR COUNTRY, THE FACT THEY KILL INNOCENT MUSLIM SOMALIS EVERYDAY, THE FACT THAT HE IS A QABILISTIC JEW, THE FACT THAT THEY WRITE THERE DISGUSTING HANDHIKAAB WORDS ON THE HOUSE OF ALLAH, THE FACT THAT THEY POO ALL OVER THE HOUSE OF ALLAH![/quote]


He is indeed a immoral and unjust ruler but not worse than Hajjaj,for he[Hajjaj] shed blood in the blessed city Makkah.Never did Abdullah ibn Abbas and Abdullah ibn Umar lable him as kaafir?![/quote]


You Make a good case Hassan, you have swayed me. by the way where are you from?[/quote]

From Europe.

[Hassan_Al_Basri01]

[quote="Koronto91"]Hassan Al-Jadiidi,

Nothing you say surprises me, because you are brainwashed by a sect that serves a political purpose:

-Stop any form of Islamic political progress.

-Speak on behalf on America & their puppet governments.

-Discredit renowned Islamic scholars such as Sh. Umal & Qardawi, while promoting others like Fowzan & Hajoori who speak for America.

The fact that you still cling on to a hadeeth that says do not fight Muslim leaders who rule by Shari'ah and reject verses from the Qur'an proves to everyone of your lack of faith and ignorance.

Stop embarrassing yourself, the Salafi Jadiid sect will not progress, insha Allah.[/quote]

"O you who believe! Let not some men among you laugh at others. It may be that the (latter) are better than the (former). And let no women laugh at others. It may (also) be that the (latter) are better than the (former). Do not defame (one another), or be sarcastic to each other, or call each other by (offensive) nicknames." (The Holy Quran, 49:11)

[The_Patriot]

Hasan albasri what do you understand by the term leader?
A 'muslim leader ' only powerful due to the Kufaar who are protecting him?

[Diyeeshaha_Tolka]

war kani waa yuhuud

yuhuudka quraanka iyo xadiithka way kaa badiyaa ,,,marba dhinac ayey kaaga keenayaan..

[Hassan_Al_Basri01]

[quote="The_Patriot"]Hasan albasri what do you understand by the term leader?
A 'muslim leader ' only powerful due to the Kufaar who are protecting him?[/quote]

Leader:
chosen by people
took power by force

Any of them is a leader and should be obeyed.

[Koronto91]

Hassan Al-Jadiidi,

This one is for you:

"If the one who rules by other than that which Allaah has revealed denies the right of Allaah and His Prophet to rule, as is mentioned in Ibn ‘Abbaas’s comment on the aayah:“. . . And whoever does not judge by what Allaah has revealed, such are the kaafiroon.” [al-Maa’idah 5:44]. Ibn ‘Abbaas said: “Whoever rejects what Allaah has revealed is a kaafir.”

[The_Patriot]

[quote="Hassan_Al_Basri01"][quote="The_Patriot"]Hasan albasri what do you understand by the term leader?
A 'muslim leader ' only powerful due to the Kufaar who are protecting him?[/quote]

Leader:
chosen by people
took power by force

Any of them is a leader and should be obeyed.[/quote]
A/yusuf
not choosen by people but by Xabashi @ mbagathi proof is his govt cannot exist without xabashi power.

Took power by force?
No implanted by force

[Hassan_Al_Basri01]

[quote="Koronto91"]Hassan Al-Jadiidi,

This one is for you:

"If the one who rules by other than that which Allaah has revealed denies the right of Allaah and His Prophet to rule, as is mentioned in Ibn ‘Abbaas’s comment on the aayah:“. . . And whoever does not judge by what Allaah has revealed, such are the kaafiroon.” [al-Maa’idah 5:44]. Ibn ‘Abbaas said: “Whoever rejects what Allaah has revealed is a kaafir.”[/quote]


"O you who believe! Let not some men among you laugh at others. It may be that the (latter) are better than the (former). And let no women laugh at others. It may (also) be that the (latter) are better than the (former). Do not defame (one another), or be sarcastic to each other, or call each other by (offensive) nicknames." (The Holy Quran, 49:11)