Are Somalis related By Blood or they met in somalia
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Re: Are Somalis related By Blood or they met in somalia
James,
What need is a census in Somalia and by tribe ! This would put rest a lot of myths
What need is a census in Somalia and by tribe ! This would put rest a lot of myths
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Re: Are Somalis related By Blood or they met in somalia
This is what you don't get. DNA testing uses ONLY the male Y chromosome which is a carbon copy imprint from the father. It does not matter who you intermarried with on the mom side as long as you are not illegitimate.AbdiWahab252 wrote:Voltage,
Regardless whether it is Abgaal, we both agree that there should be testing done on a several clans that have very little intermarriage with other clans from different tribes or foreigners.
This is why Daroods will need to trace to Arabs regardless of Doobiro or not for their line to be correct and not a fabrication.

It is also why you are squarely in Line up #1.
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Re: Are Somalis related By Blood or they met in somalia
I disqualified Abgaal because ABgaal have recorded history of incorporating (not dallying with their women) but incorporating bantu groups and also many kids of Italian men and Abgaal woman have been incorporated. This is why I disqualified them but you are part of line up 1.
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Re: Are Somalis related By Blood or they met in somalia
I would take you seriously if we had not seen each other on Facebook. Sxb you are the insecure one and you know it...your grandfathers should not have dallied with reer Zanzibar now quit yapping and go out to play, enjoy your last moments of childhood before you enter the prison called collegedawwa9 wrote:Voltage, Yes I am from one of the northern Arab claiming clans, but I still think its bullshit but at least we have more legitimacy in claiming Arab blood than a Marehan from Bumbu Congo village in Gedo living in a mud hut and eating with twigs and flies all around him
Stupid insecure wannabe Arab..

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Re: Are Somalis related By Blood or they met in somalia
Voltage,
You might want to read this. There is a tribe in Southern Africa that claims to be founded by several jewish founders and they did a history channel show on them. DNA results did prove their claim.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemba
According to recent genetic research[citation needed], a substantial number of Lemba men carry a particular polymorphism on the Y chromosome known as the Cohen modal haplotype, which is indicative of Y-DNA Haplogroup J found amongst some Jews, and in other populations across the Middle East.
One particular sub-clan within the Lemba, the Buba clan, is considered by the Lemba to be their priestly clan, while among Jews, the Kohanim are the priestly clan. From a small sample of the Buba, fifty-two percent of males were found to carry the Cohen modal haplotype[citation needed]. Among Jews the marker is also most prevalent among Jewish Kohanim, or priests. As recounted in Lemba oral tradition, the Buba clan "had a leadership role in bringing the Lemba out of Israel" and into Southern Africa.[10]
More microsatellite markers would need to be tested in order to verify the reality (or not) of any such link.[11] The Lemba also have a large percentage of alleles often found in non-Arabs[citation needed] from the near east.
You might want to read this. There is a tribe in Southern Africa that claims to be founded by several jewish founders and they did a history channel show on them. DNA results did prove their claim.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemba
According to recent genetic research[citation needed], a substantial number of Lemba men carry a particular polymorphism on the Y chromosome known as the Cohen modal haplotype, which is indicative of Y-DNA Haplogroup J found amongst some Jews, and in other populations across the Middle East.
One particular sub-clan within the Lemba, the Buba clan, is considered by the Lemba to be their priestly clan, while among Jews, the Kohanim are the priestly clan. From a small sample of the Buba, fifty-two percent of males were found to carry the Cohen modal haplotype[citation needed]. Among Jews the marker is also most prevalent among Jewish Kohanim, or priests. As recounted in Lemba oral tradition, the Buba clan "had a leadership role in bringing the Lemba out of Israel" and into Southern Africa.[10]
More microsatellite markers would need to be tested in order to verify the reality (or not) of any such link.[11] The Lemba also have a large percentage of alleles often found in non-Arabs[citation needed] from the near east.
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Re: Are Somalis related By Blood or they met in somalia
Enlightened~Sista wrote:Baddicadde![]()
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So there are Abgaals who intermarried with bantus...interesting
Salam
Wallahi sis I am abagal

Somalis are very racists, do you think they would marry with bantus? Or Italians who they hate with passion


Pisht about us marrying Italians and others, that only started once migration happened, thats when they married non-somalis. Honestly my family would go mad if they heard italian from my mouth, likewise they do not want any other Somali clans. He has to be Warsengeli-abgaal or Abgaal.....if I overstep my boundaries then Somali, nothing else.
So please tell me how abgaals are open-minded and marry into others?
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Re: Are Somalis related By Blood or they met in somalia
This is true, however a lot of the existing political institutions in Somalia are based on said myths.AbdiWahab252 wrote:James,
What need is a census in Somalia and by tribe ! This would put rest a lot of myths
The last thing Somalia needs at this moment in time is crazy people in search of racial purity or some such nonsense.
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Re: Are Somalis related By Blood or they met in somalia
Just checked on google and they look very Bantu to me. 

Re: Are Somalis related By Blood or they met in somalia
I am not paidmonk, foolVoltage wrote: I would take you seriously if we had not seen each other on Facebook. Sxb you are the insecure one and you know it...your grandfathers should not have dallied with reer Zanzibar now quit yapping and go out to play, enjoy your last moments of childhood before you enter the prison called college
Habar Gidir's and Raxanweynis even have more Arab blood than Marehans..
Re: Are Somalis related By Blood or they met in somalia
[quote="Voltage"] It does not matter who you intermarried with on the mom side as long as you are not illegitimate.[/b]
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'as long as u r not illegitimate'?? Voltage did u have to include that?? Speaking of illegitimacy--i think the theory of somali mytheology should be examined! One theory in particular is the tale of an ogaden pregnant woman with a white sac--who later had sacaad the modern habar gidir sacaad. We should examine for real if Ceyr and Sacaad are really bilogically brothers. Aint that a thought Voltage?
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'as long as u r not illegitimate'?? Voltage did u have to include that?? Speaking of illegitimacy--i think the theory of somali mytheology should be examined! One theory in particular is the tale of an ogaden pregnant woman with a white sac--who later had sacaad the modern habar gidir sacaad. We should examine for real if Ceyr and Sacaad are really bilogically brothers. Aint that a thought Voltage?

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Re: Are Somalis related By Blood or they met in somalia
Voltage,
I was showcasing the Lemba as an example of a Lost Semitic founded people. Any group claiming Semitic origins would have to past the same kind of muster.
I was showcasing the Lemba as an example of a Lost Semitic founded people. Any group claiming Semitic origins would have to past the same kind of muster.
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Re: Are Somalis related By Blood or they met in somalia
Paidmonk, I checked your forum history sxb. Wallahi you are acting like the 17 year old you are, inaa lilaah ceeb calayk waa maxay calaacalka, how will you handle college with your childish sensibilities?





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Re: Are Somalis related By Blood or they met in somalia
dawwa9 wrote:Darod and Isaaq Genealogy are the biggest lie in Somali History, 95% of the Somalis do not have any sign of Arab blood genetically (especially paternally where they claim it comes from!), not even a small percentage they're all pure African, If you don't believe it just test it yourself nowadays you can get your entire ancestral history anylized up to 10,000 years back in history by DNA tests for less than 100$
I actually did that. And i had no arab blood, but i did have european blood. But everyone's different.
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SalamVoltage wrote:Just checked on google and they look very Bantu to me.
So whoever looks bantu but claims no bantu blood, has bantu in them, or what?
How about someone who looks Arab or Asian but claims to be Somali, do they have Arab or Asian in them or what?
It seems a weak analogy to me...
Salam

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SalamWestLdnShawty wrote:dawwa9 wrote:Darod and Isaaq Genealogy are the biggest lie in Somali History, 95% of the Somalis do not have any sign of Arab blood genetically (especially paternally where they claim it comes from!), not even a small percentage they're all pure African, If you don't believe it just test it yourself nowadays you can get your entire ancestral history anylized up to 10,000 years back in history by DNA tests for less than 100$
I actually did that. And i had no arab blood, but i did have european blood. But everyone's different.
Interesting where did you get it done?
Waslam

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