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Re: Al Shabaab, a force unseen in Somalia's modern history.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:53 am
by new-york24
Shirib wrote:Who the hell are the Islamic Courts then?

We have Al Shabaab and ICU split into (Dahir Aweys & Indha'ade vs. Sheik Shariif)
war saas ma aha..there is no more icu except for what indhocade and shukri abu zeinab have..shariif and aweys have split whats called "dib u xoreynta wadanka" they have left the fields of jihaad long ago and broke bread with warlord xuseen ceydiid. :down: now they are split into the "dib u xoreynta wadanka-jabouti and dib u xoreynta wadanka-asmara"

Re: Al Shabaab, a force unseen in Somalia's modern history.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:55 am
by Shirib
American-Suufi wrote:
Shirib wrote:Who the hell are the Islamic Courts then?

We have Al Shabaab and ICU split into (Dahir Aweys & Indha'ade vs. Sheik Shariif)
ayr, indhocadde and aweis supported by their qawil.

all non hawar gedir hawiya islamic courts

al shabab

the 3 groups don't and never trusted each other since 2006. now is action time, another episode of crazy somali wars. fasten ur seat belts, lift off challenger and disintegrate over somalian soon.
What should we do with lamagoodle's man

Re: Al Shabaab, a force unseen in Somalia's modern history.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:57 am
by Shirib
new-york24 wrote:
Shirib wrote:Who the hell are the Islamic Courts then?

We have Al Shabaab and ICU split into (Dahir Aweys & Indha'ade vs. Sheik Shariif)
war saas ma aha..there is no more icu except for what indhocade and shukri abu zeinab have..shariif and aweys have split whats called "dib u xoreynta wadanka" they have left the fields of jihaad long ago and broke bread with warlord xuseen ceydiid. :down: now they are split into the "dib u xoreynta wadanka-jabouti and dib u xoreynta wadanka-asmara"
Yea these guys need to get it together or it might get real ugly.

Who is Shukri Abu Zeinab?

Re: Al Shabaab, a force unseen in Somalia's modern history.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:02 am
by new-york24
Shirib wrote:
new-york24 wrote:
Shirib wrote:Who the hell are the Islamic Courts then?

We have Al Shabaab and ICU split into (Dahir Aweys & Indha'ade vs. Sheik Shariif)
war saas ma aha..there is no more icu except for what indhocade and shukri abu zeinab have..shariif and aweys have split whats called "dib u xoreynta wadanka" they have left the fields of jihaad long ago and broke bread with warlord xuseen ceydiid. :down: now they are split into the "dib u xoreynta wadanka-jabouti and dib u xoreynta wadanka-asmara"
Yea these guys need to get it together or it might get real ugly.

Who is Shukri Abu Zeinab?
hes a whole nother story,tell you bout it some other time.

in my book al-shabaab are the true mujahdiin who have so far resisted the wicked desires of this world. :up:

Re: Al Shabaab, a force unseen in Somalia's modern history.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:07 am
by salafi_student
The_Emperior5 wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:
The_Emperior5 wrote:i agree with fah 123 dagaal halkaan banu qabsanay halkaan baanu ka boodnay how will it solve the 18 years of somalia problems they want sharia law from mogadisho to adis ababa somaha these people must be stoped :down:
sharia is the only law of the land
Wont work Democracy will work

CAJAA'IB Don't you know emperor:- That Allah Jala Wacalaa said:

{Authority and command is for Allah alone} [Quran 12:40 ]


Ulama explained that this verse is one of the basic principles of Towheed.
The one who becomes reluctance of acting up on any obligatory duties because of weakness in him self with out rejection, he is a sinner but a Muslim as long as he is performing the prayer.

However, who ever rejects any aspect of the religion of Islam with full knowledge of the consequences of his actions and with out any obstacles, then this person becomes a disbeliever. (point to note we do not make takfeer on what may be seen apparent to us, we leave that for the scholars to remove any obstacles and declare Murtad who ever deserves it)


The Most High said:

{And whosoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed, such are the disbelievers.}[Quran 5:44]


The one who argues he is a believer and says man made laws are better, more suitable in our time than the Sharia low intentionally, is considered to be a disbeliever and rejecter of the Quranic verses.


As The Most High said:

{Have you seen those (hypocrites) who claim that they believe in that which has been sent down to you, and that which was sent down before you, and they wish to go for judgement to the Taghut (false judges, etc.) while they have been ordered to reject them. But Satan wishes to lead them far astray.}[Quran 4:60]


The Most High said:

{But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you (O Muhammad SAW) judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission.} [Quran 4:65]


The most high said:

"And the Hypocrites say, 'We believe in Allah and His messenger, and are obedient to Allah and His messengers. Then they turn away from Allah's Messenger to others for judgment, and they are not believers."[Quran 24; 47]

{And if they are called to the book of Allah and His messenger for judgment about that which they dispute in, then a group of them turn away from acceptance of the truth.} [Quran 24:48]


Whoever said democracy or federalism is the only way of Somalia to rise from it's ruins has said an enormous thing. I'm not sure weather people are aware of this! But Allah is ever forgiver and those people should repent sincerely to Allah (SWT).


The Most High said in the Quran:

{When you were propagating it with your tongues, and uttering with your mouths that whereof you had no knowledge, you counted it a little thing, while with Allah it was very great.} [Quran 24;15 ]


Hadith narrated by Anas in Sahih Bukhari:

That the Prophet (SAW) said, {Whoever possesses the following three qualities will taste the sweetness of faith:

1. The one to whom Allah and His Apostle become dearer than anything else.

2. Who loves a person and he loves him only for Allah sake.

3. Who hates to revert to disbelief (Atheism) after Allah has brought (saved) him out from it, as he hates to be thrown in fire.}


For the point of evidence in the Hadith, is that someone should hate to turn back to disbelieve after Allah guided him or his people, because the one who loves Allah and his messenger (saw) would accept the law of Islam wholeheartedly. May Allah give us these qualities and make us live according to Sharia and die in Islam.

Allah ordered for all mankind to follow the prophet until the last day. Taking him as an example in any aspect of their lives.


Hadith Narrated by Anas:

The Prophet (SAW) said {None of you will have faith till he loves me more than his father, his children and all mankind.} ( Sahiih Bukhari ).

Point of evidence here in this Hadith is that faith is connected to loving the prophet (SAW), and making him dearer to you than the closest people in your life so you obey him, accept his message and his guide (sharia).

May Allah give us the true love of our beloved prophet in order we may love him and follow his foot steps and accept the law of Allah that he came to us with, so we can be successful in this life and hereafter.


Wallahu Aclam

Re: Al Shabaab, a force unseen in Somalia's modern history.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:18 am
by Padishah
When people say they want Shariah, what exactly do they mean?

Re: Al Shabaab, a force unseen in Somalia's modern history.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:26 am
by Dr Qaldan Blake
Padishah wrote:When people say they want Shariah, what exactly do they mean?

For the majority of people, they havent got a clue about what they want yet they still want it. It sound cool.

Re: Al Shabaab, a force unseen in Somalia's modern history.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:46 am
by AbuShabab
Padishah wrote:When people say they want Shariah, what exactly do they mean?
Examples of what they want:

1. Corporal punishments (i.e. chopping off heads, hands, etc) for criminals, violators, etc.

2. Modesty dress (i.e. hijab, niqab) for girls and women.

3. No alcohol, illegal drugs (including khat), etc.

4. No TV programs & movies that contain immoral scenes (i.e. kissing, hugging between men and women, etc).

5. Developing and manufacturing nuclear (similar or better) weapons for defense and deterrence.

6. Reliance on local (also within Muslim countries) production/manufacture of arms/weapons, goods, technology, etc instead of reliance on the West.

7. Charging the West the proper and fair price for valuable natural resources (i.e. charging crude oil at minimum +$200/barrel).

The list is long, but try to be specific.

Re: Al Shabaab, a force unseen in Somalia's modern history.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:49 am
by The_Patriot
Voltage is a funny character indeed, but it seems he should follow the path of Warsame.

Anyway Voltage arent you the same guys that killed MJ's out of Kismayu stole their property and raped their women.
The only reason you support Shabab is coz of the Marexan in it, once they are damped you will be part of Gedoweb editors :down:

As for Buale it was Marexan Shabab that killed those useless Hurales folk.
It seems you have a bif with Ogaden.
ninyahow there is no Ogaden in Cabduwaq or Luuq its the other way round you guys are thugs and thinking that you will just be allowed to hide under Cimamad will be your downfall.

Lets see when the Kismayu Admin starts leveling all illegal settlements in the Public areas like Schools, hospitals and former Govt lands.

We will se how you will be loyal to Shabab when your dads illegal property is taken back .

At the moment their is reposession of land that marexan stole from others in the past 10 yrs.

Re: Al Shabaab, a force unseen in Somalia's modern history.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:49 am
by Dr Qaldan Blake
AbuShabab wrote:
Padishah wrote:When people say they want Shariah, what exactly do they mean?
Examples of what they want:

1. Corporal punishments (i.e. chopping off heads, hands, etc) for criminals, violators, etc.

2. Modesty dress (i.e. hijab, niqab) for girls and women.

3. No alcohol, illegal drugs (including khat), etc.

4. No TV programs & movies that contain immoral scenes (i.e. kissing, hugging between men and women, etc).

5. Developing and manufacturing nuclear (similar or better) weapons for defense and deterrence.

6. Reliance on local (also within Muslim countries) production/manufacture of arms/weapons, goods, technology, etc instead of reliance on the West.

7. Charging the West the proper and fair price for valuable natural resources (i.e. charging crude oil at minimum +$200/barrel).

The list is long, but try to be specific.
BS.

The least in people's head is that nonesense above.

people think of 7 century Arabia when they think of Sharia.

Re: Al Shabaab, a force unseen in Somalia's modern history.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:03 am
by Somaliweyn
Voltage,

The only hypcorite I can think of is you. We all know how you turn to whatever side whenever it suits you, or whenever you are swept away by your always changing emotions.

You are as usual emotional, and by your emotional writings bring more harm to the resistance cause then benefit. You already fuel the Propaganda spread by the puppet regime and ethiopian supporters, namely: ''the resistance movement is divided and are hypocrites''.

You are a liability, and it is better for you to not associate yourself with the resistance movement, since we need determined, strong, consistent minds.

Whether the resistance movement goes by the name of Alshabaab or ICU or Khalid Brigade, we will achieve our goal: The defeat of the Ethiopian occupation and their puppet regime.

What comes after that is up to the people. Somali masses will for once in their existence exercise their right to decide how to govern their lands and themselves! ofcourse, radicals by every colour are not included in this process.

Re: Al Shabaab, a force unseen in Somalia's modern history.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:11 am
by AbuShabab
Dr Qaldan Blake wrote:people think of 7 century Arabia when they think of Sharia.
So, what's wrong with living like how the people of 7 century Arabia lived?

Re: Al Shabaab, a force unseen in Somalia's modern history.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:17 am
by Dr Qaldan Blake
AbuShabab wrote:
Dr Qaldan Blake wrote:people think of 7 century Arabia when they think of Sharia.
So, what's wrong with living like how the people of 7 century Arabia lived?

Incompatible with the todays world!

Re: Al Shabaab, a force unseen in Somalia's modern history.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:22 am
by Mr Bile
Padishah wrote:When people say they want Shariah, what exactly do they mean?

the Asmara one, the Djibouti one or the two in Hamar :? it must be confusing.
anybody who thinks sharia should be embraced to avoid conflict needs his ego examined.

Re: Al Shabaab, a force unseen in Somalia's modern history.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:24 am
by AbuShabab
Dr Qaldan Blake wrote:Incompatible with the todays world!
You're mistaken. The 7 century is the era when the prophet (salalaahu calayhi wasalam), Sahaba and best Muslims lived. Living how they lived is what formed the scientifically/technologically/militarily advanced Islamic Caliphate. Muslims tried to live other ways (like socialists, communists, liberals, democrats, anarchists, etc), but they failed to advance.