The most civilized Hawiyes are.......

[Xamud.]

ive no clue what you talking about.
for me hawiya are hawiya.
i dont even know my own subsub clan.
shaqo la'aan ba idin heysa knowing others sub clans!!

because ur sheegato magnificant baan ku sheegaya.

@ Magnificant calling anyone sheegato? isagaba sheegato ah!

[Xamud.]

Famous Marexaan sub clans? Reer Diini Wagerdhac Reer Ahmed

[Hyperactive]

ive no clue what you talking about.
for me hawiya are hawiya.
i dont even know my own subsub clan.
shaqo la'aan ba idin heysa knowing others sub clans!!

because ur sheegato magnificant baan ku sheegaya.

ader koronto can confirm that , also kambuli, sirlugooyo and many more smalinnetrs.

[Twisted_Logic]

Famous Marexaan sub clans? Reer Diini Wagerdhac Reer Ahmed

Point-proven

[abdi ilyas]

am out of this topic take care of your lap dogs

[Xamud.]

Abdi Ilyas
Do you know the meaning of "lap dogs"


Twisted
?????

[Captain24]

TWISTED, WACBUUDHAN XARARDHEERE MAY DAGAAN?

[Muhammad bin Harti]

now back to the topic.

Salabeen by far is the most civilized hawiye.

They were karbashing Sacads in the mid-90's for ruining the country.

[Twisted_Logic]

TWISTED, WACBUUDHAN XARARDHEERE MAY DAGAAN?

No. Those are Wacesley.

[King-of-Awdal]

Wacbudhan is the largest and most powerful subclan of Abgaal hands down

In terms of military power yes. Basically this is how it boils down

Harti-Abgaal: Driving seat now in politics
Wacesley: Most wealthy
Wacbudhan: militarily powerful

So of all these sub clans who own's the Capital? I know its a shared city but what sub clan has more of a claim?

[Twisted_Logic]

Wacbudhan is the largest and most powerful subclan of Abgaal hands down

In terms of military power yes. Basically this is how it boils down

Harti-Abgaal: Driving seat now in politics
Wacesley: Most wealthy
Wacbudhan: militarily powerful

So of all these sub clans who own's the Capital? I know its a shared city but what sub clan has more of a claim?

Reer Matan wacbudhan are considered the owners of Mogadishu

[Captain24]

War Moqdisho is a city for All Somalis ee meel fariiso

[King-of-Awdal]

War Moqdisho is a city for All Somalis ee meel fariiso

What about Bossasso?

Twisted thanx.

[Voltage]

Lol @ owners.

[RebelLion]

This is the first time I've seen the words hawiye and civilized in the same sentence.

Anyways, I would go with udjejeen, because somalia's first president aden cadde(aun) was from this tribe.