Lets have a little discussion

[Ms.Erudite]

Prostitution is haram so that's my official position on it.



BUT....personally, i don't see why it's illegal. If two consenting individuals agree to have sex and attach a business agreement to it, why is it anyone else's concern? Each individual is responsible for their own lives and decision, and as long as it isn't a crime against humanity (which it's not), then those who want to either offer or receive those services should be able to do so at their own discretion. From an economic standpoint, prostitution is the oldest profession and is still thriving despite it's illicit nature. The government should legalize it (since outlawing it isn't abolishing it altogether) and tax it so that society can benefit economically and they should regulate it to ensure it's done safely (STD's) and under careful monitoring to prevent abuse (forcing females into prostitution). The alternative is it continuing to be illegal, and pimps continuing to force females into prostitution while STD/STI's are running rampant in society.

What you are describing is not illegal, there is the porn/escort services industry. Prostitution is the act of soliciting sex for money in a public place, in effect if it were made legal you would have prostitutes working alongside buskers in tube stations lol.

[Ms.Erudite]

"who would the news portray as wrong? Violent Homophobes or gays?"

offcouse violent homophobes, because the media is owned by homosexual jewish men!.

Lol so who is the stigma attached to then, homosexuals or those who oppose them?

[Madd_Scientist_]

And making it legal..is the first step to that acceptance. Just like everything else that was once illegal, the bad reputation will become a part of history. I never said the effect would be immediate.

and if it's part of history, it'll always be there.

[Ms.Erudite]

And making it legal..is the first step to that acceptance. Just like everything else that was once illegal, the bad reputation will become a part of history. I never said the effect would be immediate.

and if it's part of history, it'll always be there.

Yes, but will it be signifcant? will it impact on people's views? No i don't think it will, i think it will become like the many other things that were previously illegal, and people will see the bad reputation as having been created by 'backwards' people who didn't know any better. It will just be words in a history book eventually.

If its present, but has no weight attached to it. It may as well no longer exist.

[Madd_Scientist_]

Yes, but will it be signifcant? will it impact on people's views? No i don't think it will, i think it will become like the many other things that were previously illegal, and people will see the bad reputation as having been created by 'backwards' people who didn't know any better. It will just be words in a history book eventually.

If its present, but has no weight attached to it. It may as well no longer exist.

Do you find history significant? Does history impact on people's views? Yes it is and yes it does. If something is present, even if it's a very small part, you can't disregard it, that'd be like tampering with evidence to obtain the outcome you want. You have to take it into account, whether you like it or not.

And if prostitution is legalised and people see it as 'not being wrong' as you're saying- what's stopping the majority of the people to take up this "legal" profession? It can't be the bad reputation associated with prostitution because according to you the stigma will fade, then disappear. So what is it?

[Foxy22]

First and foremost, no character bashing. Im doing this soley to have a discussion.
Second, just for a moment, put your "religious moral" aside and thing constructivley.



Why is prostitution illegal?
Lets define it first: doing sexual favors for money.
Okay, so its illegal because they are 'selling' their bodies right?
Welll; we're all selling our bodies one way or the other. Construction workers use their bodies to build a home. Painters and artists use their fingers and hands to make art. Even those in the financial industry sell their 'intellectual' bodies..and all get money for it. So who decided that a coochie/dingdog was the only part of the body that a person cant use to make money?

Again, I said put religion aside ( i know its hard but do it anyways) when ur thinking about this issue.

Ready.Set.Go.

Prostitution is not illegal in Australia; they just need to have their license and pay their taxes

[Madd_Scientist_]

^ oh, i didn't know that foxy. Does it still have a bad reputation even though it's legal?

[Foxy22]

^ oh, i didn't know that foxy. Does it still have a bad reputation even though it's legal?

Some of my clients were prostitutes and strippers.. I still have a stripper. To me not really, it's their personal choice and who am I to judge? what they do for living does not make them good or bad as far as I'm concerned.. they are not harming anyone. At the end of the day, they have to live with their choices and if they can look in the mirror next day and they are fine with it, that's all that counts I guess.

[Madd_Scientist_]

^ oh, i didn't know that foxy. Does it still have a bad reputation even though it's legal?

Some of my clients were prostitutes and strippers.. I still have a stripper. To me not really, it's their personal choice and who am I to judge? what they do for living does not make them good or bad as far as I'm concerned.. they are not harming anyone. At the end of the day, they have to live with their choices and if they can look in the mirror next day and they are fine with it, that's all that counts I guess.

I completely agree with you. Their life their choice.

Maybe what i should've asked was... Does the "profession" even though it's legal, carry a stigma with it? I've been trying to argue that just because it's legal doesn't mean that people, the majority atleast, won't frown up on it and that it's not seen as somethign which is "fine" to do.

[BaasAbuur]

I didn't bother to read any of the replies but the simple answer is it is the same reason drugs are illegal. Prostitution is destructive, both physically and mentally.

[zulaika]

put your "religious moral" aside and thing constructivley.

Nalia,

true we're all employing our physical attributes to go about life, "work" and play. its how and where we choose to dispose our efforts that engages the body with the mind and soul...outside of this frame, we'd be reduced to simple drones for hire. this is something human beings by innate call cannot do...they are thinking creatures, naturally equipped with a sense of "right" and "wrong", so the idea that moral dictations(or religious/spiritual inclination) serves to undermined "constructive thinking" elicits a very non-human trait.

moreover, granted we follow you suggested line of thinking(without moral call), if you can equate a construction worker to a sex worker citing work is work, well then how does someone hired to kill innocent people/children etc, or someone involved in some other nefarious profession fair in that logic??....can you still claim "work is work" and we're simply selling ourselves for monetary gain?

[aka-peace-]

all i have to say on this subject is that soliciting for prostitution should be illegal, the rest should be left for the woman to decide