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Re: Anyone know what Somalis worshipped before Islam?

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AbdiWahab252 wrote:FAH,

Practices against Ziyaaro which compliments the honoring of the Ancestors, the replacement of Somali words by Arabic ones, the abandoning of Somali traditional clothing for Arab clothing, the forbidding of Ancient SOmali dances and practices like the Bad Gal, Istunka.
sxb walaahi waa wax lala yaabo. arabisim and arab culture ayey wahaabiyada soomalida ah moodeey diin islaam.
xayawaanimadooda xitaa arabs name like ABU ABU ABU. iyo gabdhaha oo loo bixito UMU hebel hebel, ayey wahaabiyada al shiiskabaab iyo kuwa baddan u moodeen inay diin tahay. jaahilnimadooda xitaa ma oga CARAB KIRISTAANTA xaq jira ah inay la baxaan ABU ASHRAF. ABU SALEEYMAAN. walaahi mid carab aan isku meel ka wada shaqeyn jirey waa gaal kiristaan ah waxaana la yiraah ABU SAMIIIR. TAASOO micnaheedu tahay aabihii wiilka samiir.

xawayaaniinta AL SHIISHKABAAB waxaan ku qosley maamulada ay sameeyeen sida MARKA KISMAAYO IYO BAYDHABO. kalmadii af soomaliga aheeyd ee ah (GOBOLKA) sida gobolka bay. gobolka jubadda hoose.waxay kalmadii GOBOLKA ku badaleen kalmad af carabi ah taasoo ah(WILAAAYA) taasoo ah micnaheedu STATE. WALIYAATAATUL MUMTAXIDA(UNITED STATES) xawayaanimadooda al shiish kabaab kalmadii aheeyd GUDOOMIYE waxay ku badalen(waaliga)

universal tv ayaan ka fiirsanayey caawa mid al shiish kabaab baydhabo maamula wuxuu yiri aniga waxaan aheyd WAALIGA WILAAYADA BAYDHABO :lol: :lol: waaliga wuxuu ka wadaa gudoomiye ama maamule laakin af soomali WAALIGA=NIN JINOOL AH -NIN WAALAN. :lol: :lol: WAALIGA WILAAYADA BAYDHABO=jinoolka gobolka baydhabo

walaahi WAHAABIYADA sooomalida ah waxaa qalbiga ka soo xadey dadka aduunka ugu AQLAAQ XUN waa sacuudiyaanka. dhaqankii FOOSHA XUMAA EE goat,CAMEL fockers sacuudi ayey modeeen DIIN.
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Voltage wrote:Cawar, I can sniff them from a mile a while. Look at how it slinked off when I uncovered it's nakedness.

Like I said, political reasons without political facts.

You sniffed nothing walaal, if there is anything that you have sniffed at your end, is only cawar's a.ss. If you do know the language you would not have said that.
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Good bye.
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Goodbye, goodbye, it really annoys me to sound rude but I guess that is the only way Somalis understand each other. :down:
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Voltage wrote:Like I thought. :arrow:

And pick up your grammar. Wali and Waaq are used as adjectives in there not verbs. They are alluding to God's attributes. When it says you will not have any defender except God, it is an adjective because God is the defender.
oh, you edited your last line, it would have been alot polite if you only wrote this instead being colorful. And yes you are right its not verb, i was wrong. But again I don't think it really relates to the god Waaq.
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There are a lot of customs I remember being told about by my grandparents. I only wish I recorded them down.
Hey is it true that some degodiyes still practice waqism and were these grandparents on your mom side?
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I remembered something, isnt there an Island by the name of al Waq Waq? I do recall my dad used to joke about it...and if my guess is right then, this Waq in Somali is nothing but a connection to the al Waq Waq island and its residents.

Political reason and no political fact :lol: are you afraid that I claim waaq to be isaaq and denounce its marhen lineage, weird kid :lol:
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All that matters now is we're all Muslims except Ayan Hirsi & Co. :|
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there are some ethiests in here like X_keyse.
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Istaqfurlah. Who told u that? :shock:
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Buhodle-Gurl wrote:Istaqfurlah. Who told u that? :shock:
A little bird told me nooh. :lol:
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:lol: :lol:

This lil bird done spread lies about me too. :cry:
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On the island of Waqwaq the 15th-century writer, Ibn al-Wardi tells us, there are “trees that bear women as fruit: shapely, with bodies, eyes, feet,.....they come out of cases like big swords, and when they feel the wind and sun, they shout ‘Waq Waq’ until their hair tears.” Magic realism, clearly, has been around for a long time...

Waqwaq is somewhere in the geographical location of present day Mauritius, where Shawkat Toorawa of the Hassam Toorawa Trust has published the book The Western Indian Ocean: Essays on Islands and Islanders which he has also edited. The book brings together six thought-provoking essays by scholars of Mauritius and other Indian Ocean islands who explore the experiences of islanders past and present, of placement and displacement, of locals and globals.
The volume opens with a Foreword by Megan Vaughan (King's College Cambridge), situating the essays in the broader context of the historical processes in the Indian Ocean. Ned Alpers(University of California, Los Angeles) places the islands of the Western Indian Ocean in the wider African context. Himanshu Prabha Ray (Jawaharlal Nehru University) discusses ancient and medieval seafaring in the Indian Ocean. Shawkat Toorawa (Cornell University) muses on the Indian Ocean location of the medieval Waqwaq islands. Paul van der Velde (International institute for Asian Studies) reflects on Dutch traveller Jacob Haafner's late eighteenth century visit of mariner Joshua Slocum to Rodrigues and Mauritius. Jocelyn Chan Low (University of Mauritius) puts the plight of the Chagos Islanders (Ilois) into the context of Cold war realpolitik and Mauritius independence.
Source: http://swblogs.blogspot.com/2007/09/waq-waq.html

Kitab Ghara'ib al-funun wa-mulah al-'uyun (The Book of Curiosities of the Sciences and Marvels for the Eyes; The Book of Strange Arts and Visual Delights)

Chapter 2.3
fol. 25b,
In the regions south of the Equator there are nine adjoining mountains, 400 to 500 [miles] high; another mountain, which is 900 miles high.
And the Mountain of the Moon, which is 1,000 miles high, and situated partly in the first clime and partly beyond the Equator, and is the source of the Nile which gushes out and branches out from it.


Chapter 2.5
Circular World map

(1) The Zanj
(2) Sofala (is a Mozambique seaport on the east coast of Africa)
(3) al Waqwaq
(4) Island of al-Qumr
(5) al Waqwaq
(6) Ceylon
(7) a river that flows into the Nile
(8) the smaller marsh
(9) the Mountain of the Moon
(10) the smaller Marsh
Source: http://www.geocities.com/pieterderideau ... ities.html


Since people are always on the move whether they initiated it or not, there is always this probability the Waaq came from Waq Waq island and the natives carried their old name to new lands and settlements and Allah knows the best.
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we will catch that lil bird and put it in her cage.she will be harmless afterwards. :up:
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Re: Anyone know what Somalis worshipped before Islam?

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Navy9 wrote:You do know that languages borrow from each other, for instance, the word baraf (ice in Somali) was taken from (i guess) Hindi and also the word baraf in Farsi means snow.

Waaqi is an arabic word, the name format of it is Wiqaya.

In the second verse the word waaqi and waliy are synonyms, as a matter of fact if we even replace the word waaqi with hafiz it could yield the same meaning.
This is the explanation of the verse:

http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMa ... nguageId=1

Enjoy!
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