Alxaaram forcing women to wear veil

[Megatron]

Yanno, mayne, i'm gonna say that the biggest disservice to the beauty of Islam, is the misinterpretations today. particularly when it comes to literal interpretation. not EVERYthing is to be taken literally. and the botton line, is you cant enforce anything with the threat of bodily harm. that will get your butt kicked out in a flash. which is what will happen here, Alxamdulilah

[RebelLion1]

I've noticed all these so called islamists group have the same mentality, their priorities seemed to be out of wack, they all seem to be too worried about what women wear and other trivial issues when there are tons of more urgent issues to handle first in somalia.

[Shirib]

Yanno, mayne, i'm gonna say that the biggest disservice to the beauty of Islam, is the misinterpretations today. particularly when it comes to literal interpretation. not EVERYthing is to be taken literally. and the botton line, is you cant enforce anything with the threat of bodily harm. that will get your butt kicked out in a flash. which is what will happen here, Alxamdulilah

There is no threat of bodily harm. Just a short detention.

[ms.naliaa]

Most of Islamic law does not come to is from Quran. You are aware of this correct

I get that sunas' and hadiths but those are left to interpertaion no?
And because that is the case, then there are different schools of thought which would lead me to beleive that there is no clear and concise answer to my question.
Hence your argument goes robust.

[Shirib]

Most of Islamic law does not come to is from Quran. You are aware of this correct

I get that sunas' and hadiths but those are left to interpertaion no?
And because that is the case, then there are different schools of thought which would lead me to beleive that there is no clear and concise answer to my question.
Hence your argument goes robust.

There are 4 schools of law, and most agree with each other and all 4 say neither is actually wrong, just a little different. Pick a school and follow it. Most Somali's are Shaafici.

If u know covering up is a part of the religion why is it such a big deal that they enforce it. It is not that they are enforcing something that is foreign to the religion

[Megatron]

Most of Islamic law does not come to is from Quran. You are aware of this correct

I get that sunas' and hadiths but those are left to interpertaion no?
And because that is the case, then there are different schools of thought which would lead me to beleive that there is no clear and concise answer to my question.
Hence your argument goes robust.

ExACTly.

[SultanOrder]

Personally i dislike to go into topics about sharaiah because first we are not in place to dictate what is meant by this hadith or how this should be dictated or how to apply such and such rulings.. etc . This is an area where we all are deficient in knowledge, so where does our "ruilings" stem from? from our expierence our deficient knowledge and our personal biased rooted in our world view. That being said I think Al shabab in there petty attempt in creating an islamic state has its prioritys mixed up when they should be worrying about making the living conditions of the people such as safety, peace, stability, infrastructer, water, etc there head is in whether women should cover up or not, personally now is not the debate for this.


I remember reading a hadith that said that Umar Ibn al khattab(ra) when he was khalifa suspended the law of the cutting of hands for thieves at a time where there was a devastating drought and the people were in a desperate condition, this shows me that most of islams rulings are for times when the condition is almost ideal

[Megatron]

P_O

Exactly. As Rebellion said, too many Muslim men worry wtf Muslim women are wearing

[ms.naliaa]

Most of Islamic law does not come to is from Quran. You are aware of this correct

I get that sunas' and hadiths but those are left to interpertaion no?
And because that is the case, then there are different schools of thought which would lead me to beleive that there is no clear and concise answer to my question.
Hence your argument goes robust.

There are 4 schools of law, and most agree with each other and all 4 say neither is actually wrong, just a little different. Pick a school and follow it. Most Somali's are Shaafici.

If u know covering up is a part of the religion why is it such a big deal that they enforce it. It is not that they are enforcing something that is foreign to the religion

My biggest issue is not islam but the fact that someone is gonig to FORCE me to live the religion I CHOSE a certain way.
Can you imagine how you can easily get people to hate their own religion, its scare tactics and punishment infringments like this. Do you think someone is going to appreciate the beauty of their religion if they are being scared into it?
What happens when they leave the muslim country? Isnt the idea of islam that you spread it, if your forcing ppl to live a certain way, as soon as they leave, they'll fly off the handle.
Unless your claiming to be perfect, I dont think others should be punished for what you beleive. I think islam is a personal choice and it should remain that way as long as ur not harming anyone else.

p.s. just for arguments sake....will anyone who leaves the religion be killed? cause some do beleive that should be the case

[Megatron]

^^ forget it, shrib is entrenched in his archaic and backward views. he'll rebut with another Hadith

[Shirib]

My biggest issue is not islam but the fact that someone is gonig to FORCE me to live the religion I CHOSE a certain way.
Can you imagine how you can easily get people to hate their own religion, its scare tactics and punishment infringments like this. Do you think someone is going to appreciate the beauty of their religion if they are being scared into it?
What happens when they leave the muslim country? Isnt the idea of islam that you spread it, if your forcing ppl to live a certain way, as soon as they leave, they'll fly off the handle.
Unless your claiming to be perfect, I dont think others should be punished for what you beleive. I think islam is a personal choice and it should remain that way as long as ur not harming anyone else.

p.s. just for arguments sake....will anyone who leaves the religion be killed? cause some do beleive that should be the case

'Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him' Hadith - Sahih Al-Bukhari (9:57)

[RebelLion1]

P_O

Exactly. As Rebellion said, too many Muslim men worry wtf Muslim women are wearing

That's not what i meant. Muslim men should worry about what women wear and make sure it's within the confines of islamic society, but my point in somalia that should not be the first priority especially at our current state.

[Megatron]

My biggest issue is not islam but the fact that someone is gonig to FORCE me to live the religion I CHOSE a certain way.
Can you imagine how you can easily get people to hate their own religion, its scare tactics and punishment infringments like this. Do you think someone is going to appreciate the beauty of their religion if they are being scared into it?
What happens when they leave the muslim country? Isnt the idea of islam that you spread it, if your forcing ppl to live a certain way, as soon as they leave, they'll fly off the handle.
Unless your claiming to be perfect, I dont think others should be punished for what you beleive. I think islam is a personal choice and it should remain that way as long as ur not harming anyone else.

p.s. just for arguments sake....will anyone who leaves the religion be killed? cause some do beleive that should be the case

'Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him' Hadith - Sahih Al-Bukhari (9:57)

Well then. When are you going back to Mog to join your Brothers in Islam ?

[Megatron]

P_O

Exactly. As Rebellion said, too many Muslim men worry wtf Muslim women are wearing

That's not what i meant. Muslim men should worry about what women wear and make sure it's within the confines of islamic society, but my point in somalia that should not be the first priority especially at our current state.

Dude, I KNOW what you meant. As did everybody else reading your post.

[ms.naliaa]

'Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him' Hadith - Sahih Al-Bukhari (9:57)

alright...
now answer the rest of my post!



Mega
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