The Somali Manifesto; Open letter to MSB in 1990

[GENERAL_SNM]

You noticed as soon as I posted the truth the topic got moved. Typical Darod's always abusing power..

[Muhammad bin Harti]

werent the SNA red berets in the 1970s/early 1980's consistent mostly of isaaq and hawiye. werent the marginalized omar mohamud attacked from the south and north west by the irir brothers of destruction?

[Goljano Lion]

You noticed as soon as I posted the truth the topic got moved. Typical Darod's always abusing power..

i have noticed long time,

[Goljano Lion]

Southern Zoo-malis need to stop worrying about Somaliland and especially, those Ilkoyar mareexaans should help their community and fix their problems in Gedo instead of waiting a government for free hands outs cos there is no afweyn, it is over and this is a new era. then maybe we will take you serious. Until then continue to be at the bottom of the socioeconomic in Somalia.

[yawle]

The Somali civilwar has yet to finish. There is few more rounds to go specialy in the north.

[Cali_Gaab]

The Somali civilwar has yet to finish. There is few more rounds to go specialy in the north.

Care to elaborate?

[Ureysoo]

Somali Naago Movement aka SNM...

So basically, Somalinimo ended when Siyad Barre attacked Hargeisa (or shall I say today's Somaliland)?. Seriously, do u think before u type ur hooey?.

U telling us Somaliland felt the need of seceding when Siyad Barre assaulted them?. It was like a counter-movement 2 his oppression?. If that's the case, how does this portray and represent ur people?. Knowing the fact, a lot of kinfolks (including Darood sub-clans) experienced the wrath of Siyad Barre, and yet managed to overcome the past events. Why can't ur ilk come into terms with it, instead of hanging on 2 a feeling of resentment hitherto?. There's a difference between outlining facts, and holding grudges, and u are exhibiting the latter, Ninyahow.

Above all this, they have the audacity to claim patriotism, Cajiib.....

[CUSHITE KINGDOM]

Somali Naago Movement aka SNM...

So basically, Somalinimo ended when Siyad Barre attacked Hargeisa (or shall I say today's Somaliland)?. Seriously, do u think before u type ur hooey?.

U telling us Somaliland felt the need of seceding when Siyad Barre assaulted them?. It was like a counter-movement 2 his oppression?. If that's the case, how does this portray and represent ur people?. Knowing the fact, a lot of kinfolks (including Darood sub-clans) experienced the wrath of Siyad Barre, and yet managed to overcome the past events. Why can't ur ilk come into terms with it, instead of hanging on 2 a feeling of resentment hitherto?. There's a difference between outlining facts, and holding grudges, and u are exhibiting the latter, Ninyahow.

Above all this, they have the audacity to claim patriotism, Cajiib.....

landers are going to come back hard just watch

[Ureysoo]

CK.....

They can weep as much as they want, but facts remains the same. We got slaughtered few decades ago, won't grant them a secession approval or justify their claims. Hell, Somalia is in a state of chaos, and oppression will ensue one way or another (each and every clan will be on the receiving end of tribulation). But the Q remains – why run away, instead of adjusting the condition?.....

Markas Dad Kale Beey Ku Sheegayan Traitors....

[SummerRain]

B/c running away is the easiest thing to do...duh

[Cali_Gaab]

U telling us Somaliland felt the need of seceding when Siyad Barre assaulted them?. It was like a counter-movement 2 his oppression?. If that's the case, how does this portray and represent ur people?. Knowing the fact, a lot of kinfolks (including Darood sub-clans) experienced the wrath of Siyad Barre, and yet managed to overcome the past events. Why can't ur ilk come into terms with it, instead of hanging on 2 a feeling of resentment hitherto?. There's a difference between outlining facts

They never planned on declaring an independent state at that stage, the final straw was when Ali Mahdi declared himself president after we made it clear that we wanted a conflict resolution and restoration of power through the methods of xeer.

Knowing the fact, a lot of kinfolks (including Darood sub-clans) experienced the wrath of Siyad Barre, and yet managed to overcome the past events. Why can't ur ilk come into terms with it, instead of hanging on 2 a feeling of resentment hitherto?. There's a difference between outlining facts

Nobody is denying that other clans have suffered through the hands of this government, however they did suffer more than others in larger numbers. They also have overcome this by building their own state, creating a law and develop the region as much as possible with limited aid.
Your confusing General's views with those of the larger group.

As for your question regarding why they have run away.....the remaining feuding groups don't even get along with eachother, they cant come to terms with eachother...not now, not 18 years ago and most probably not ever. What sense does it make to join matters now and complicate the situation even more?

You cant question our patriotism, a largely '1 clan state' has been granted independence.
It could have ran with it but instead joined with another entity out of Somalinimo without any conditions. When it comes to patriotism, our actions have shown that we are 2nd to none.

[CUSHITE KINGDOM]

CK.....

They can weep as much as they want, but facts remains the same. We got slaughtered few decades ago, won't grant them a secession approval or justify their claims. Hell, Somalia is in a state of chaos, and oppression will ensue one way or another (each and every clan will be on the receiving end of tribulation). But the Q remains – why run away, instead of adjusting the condition?.....

Markas Dad Kale Beey Ku Sheegayan Traitors....

one thing you fell to see here on snet is isaqs are not the only
who talk like this but i agree with you

[Ureysoo]

B/c running away is the easiest thing to do...duh

... I pictured Abdi Bille's clones doing a runner.....

Cali Gaab....

The reason why I wrote it as a Q, was to refute General SNM's Statements. Nevertheless, this latter statement ---”We decided 2 break off after Ali-Mahadi's emergence” --- is not fulfilling the conditions neither. U lot decided 2 break away, because another evildoer took over the leading-edge by force, and refused 2 negotiate?. How pathetic?. It's like u are giving up on the bigger aim (Somalinimo), to only cater 2 one's stakes. None of the other Somalis were contented with his overtake or backed his campaign, but did any of the other regions secede?.

As 4 the level of suffering – this can be argued on, Sxb. Again, if they managed to overcome the anarchy and rebuild Somaliland, why cross the extra mile and ask 4 complete detachment, rather than contributing 2 greater Somalia's progression?. Beside, u lot are still standing on the same edge, after all these years without getting any recognition, thus, why do u think this status is better than being ONE OF SOMALIA'S SERENE REGIONS. Unless u are saying, this relative patterned advance and level of stability can only be attained after breaking out of Somalia?....

[Ureysoo]

Oh, Again....

Did u just say --- “We seceded from Greater-Somalia, and joined forces with only FEW clans (out of SOMALINIMO) 2 establish another country?. Does that show any sign of patriotism, or sounds reasonable at all?!!....

[Goljano Lion]

Oh, Again....

Did u just say --- “We seceded from Greater-Somalia, and joined forces with only FEW clans (out of SOMALINIMO) 2 establish another country?. Does that show any sign of patriotism, or sounds reasonable at all?!!....

We don’t want to be part of Somalia, we already have our nation Somaliland whether you like it or not. Urayso, all this bullshitt you’re posting, nayaa, you must really have some serious inferiority complex homeless jeberti dyke. The way you’re trying to make yourself a true wadani by writing all this stupid shitt as if every homeless jeberti is a true patriotic. You should be thanking full general Aidid(AUN) who gave you this wonderful chance of being the new African-Kurdish.