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sadeboi" Queen...while I do support the ONLF wholeheartedly hadane one must not consider it not a jihad because of their inclusion. Why not get other clans to join the war, why alienate them, why say this is the land of Ogaden, when there is so many clans that live there. I have never know this information, but what is their end goal? An Islamic run state? Unification with the rest of Somalia?

You also have narrow understanding of what Jihad is, and we need stop making the 'O' a priority For God's sake its just a name ,sure it might give some people goosebumps but it won't kill them Other clans alienating themselfs and are blinded by tribalism, because of the 'O' name they refused to take up arms and have choosen to watch by the sidelines, the TPLF tells the other clans that this is not their war and yet still oppresses them so It's up to them to organise themselves as we have done and contribute. If they don't agree with the name, chose one that pleases them and die for the cause otherwise they can watch and talk nonsense. It is one thing to oppose a functioning and in many cases creditable organization like ONLF and it is quite another to sit back and wait who will win the ongoing battle, the situation would have been worse had it not been for the gallant struggle of the ONLF...we're not followers of Somali irredentism but we'll decide if we want to re-unite with Somalia and obviously the land will be rule by the sharia :

The land was always refereed to as Galbeed as far as I know it walaal.

My dear the term "somaligalbeed" was introduced during the 1970s for political correctness reasons and was used during Siad Barre's time, a time when he wanted Ogadenia to unite with Somalia, historically region has always been called Ogaden.

Also, my brother perfect-order just came back. He said the ONLF and the galbeed government fight (both somalis), the ONLF and the Akhwaan fight (both somalis), the akhwaan and the galbeed government fight (both somali), and the akhwaan and the ONLf both fight xabasha. Marka there is great confusion walal as to call this a jihad from my perspective. But I do support them nonetheless.

How did perfect-order come to this conclusion Does he have credible first-hand information if he does i like him to share with us..ONLF main target is xabash regime and all of its supporters, there is no confusion on who the enemy is..

Guys, the ONLF case is Legit Jihad no matter how you look at it. Self defense is Jihad. There is an authentic hadith that states "whoever dies defending his wealth, relatives and self is Shahid" On that basis alone, the ONLFs are Mujahidiin.

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Very good SIR.

Captain24 wrote:Guys, the ONLF case is Legit Jihad no matter how you look at it. Self defense is Jihad. There is an authentic hadith that states "whoever dies defending his wealth, relatives and self is Shahid" On that basis alone, the ONLFs are Mujahidiin.

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I believe they are. But they need to stop killing innocent garxajis travelers. That is just uncall for and could ignite clan warfare once again. You know what happened in the last one. Didnt go so well for our Og folks.

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edleh wrote:Some of the top leaders of ONLF were reported to have said that their struggle against the Xabuush of Ethiopia has nothing to do with Islam at all and that they're not fighting for the sake of Diin. If that is really true, how the hell can they be depicted as Mujaahideen? A Mujahid is a person whose intention is to die for the sake of Allah while defending his rights, the rights of his country as well as the rights of his people.

You never know somebodys inner intentions. Whats clear is that they are fighting oppression, genocide and injustice being commited to them, their mothers, sisters, and elderly, in they own ancestral land. They's silent genocide going there, far from media eyes.

Sxb ONLF has already made their intentions clear. They said that their struggle against the Xabuush has nothing to do with Diin (at least that is what some of their leaders claim). For political reasons, they seem to like distancing themselves as well as their mission from the affairs of Diin. So what is the value of inner intention when things are clarified like that? I'm not just making this up. It's something I have observed from different sources over the years. But as long as their aim is to free the land from the brutality & oppression of the Xabuush regime of Ethiopia, I do support their mission. The only thing I find it hard to swallow is how on earth can they be Mujaahidiin when the foundation of their struggle is based on politics.

Ducaysane209 wrote:i guess the Oromo also can call their struggle Jihad

The sense of Jihad seems to be redefined nowadays.

Intention is the MAIN thing, it takes you to heaven or hell

Enemy_Of_Mad_Mullah wrote:Intention is the MAIN thing, it takes you to heaven or hell

Queen, I respect to call your land its known name.


in the history books, such countries did exist as well.

Majeerteenia
Dhulbahante
Isaaq
Hawiye
Marehan etc etc.


Therefore, Somali Galbeed was part of the nation building process. I don't believe in irredentism as you condescendingly used to dispel the SG usages.

Now I understand our state has collapsed and loyalty to its restoration fickle and biddable.
Don't you agree every Somali clan has shifted for itself?

ONLF's irredentism can't be a jihad. They are trying to breakaway from Ethiopia on the grounds of ethnicity. I don't know where religion comes in. There is a big Muslim population in Ethiopia besides the Somalis in Ogadenia.

See your concept of Jihad has been hijacked by Al-qeada in that you must have a clear agenda in which you condemn the west, make inflamatory remarks, remark you will capture the whole islamic world, behead people on video.....etc.

War the true essence of jihad is being fought on Fronts like the ogaden.

Jihad fii sabiililaah.

nomadicwarlord wrote:ONLF's irredentism can't be a jihad. They are trying to breakaway from Ethiopia on the grounds of ethnicity. I don't know where religion comes in. There is a big Muslim population in Ethiopia besides the Somalis in Ogadenia.

they want to beak away from Ethiopia becaus 1) ogadenia wasnt part of Ethiopia in the first place. 2) Ogadenia is muslim region, to be forced in becoming part of gaal counry should not only be Ogadens' concern but all somalis. 3) freedom, Ogadenia never asked to join Ethiopia, it was forced, so under the grounds of Human rights, they have a right to want/not want to be part of Ethiopia, and in the process they may fight against it.

they want to beak away from Ethiopia becaus 1) ogadenia wasnt part of Ethiopia in the first place. 2) Ogadenia is muslim region, to be forced in becoming part of gaal counry should not only be Ogadens' concern but all somalis. 3) freedom, Ogadenia never asked to join Ethiopia, it was forced, so under the grounds of Human rights, they have a right to want/not want to be part of Ethiopia, and in the process they may fight against it.

First off its not a religious Struggle more nationalistic struggle, the onlf is called
Ogaden national Liberation front.
Oromia is the biggest province of Ethiopia 85% of their population is Muslim. Now tell me when they are having a struggle with the northern chiefs do you think they justify their struggle with religion
When Eritrea was fighting Ethiopia did they justify their struggle with jihad Eritrea has also muslims remember. I don’t think so.
The sovereignty of Ethiopia cant be undermined