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Re: WTF, Rendille people?

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Voltage wrote:
The_Patriot wrote:So what are we left with to urgue about?
Perhaps a little something called language? The Somali language is not a section of Oromo as would be if the first Somali group (Dir) branched from Oromo. The Somali language is as old as Oromo which means if the Cushitic language is really a group of related languages and not sprachbund as some linguists are proposing (languages that came to be similar to each other due to location) then this means the Somali identity is as old as the Oromo identity and either is not the same as the other.

For the language to be as old as Oromo, the originally people who spoke it (Dir) had to have been equal to and never a part of Oromo.

Also, the rest of your information is garbage. Also I think the opposite is actually the case because Oromos were not even our true neighbors as late as the Ahmed Gurey times. Almost all that land including Harrar were the vicinity of Somali tribes and as we know, when the army of Ahmed Gurey was defeated by the portuguese, their remnants were flung to every part of Ethiopia which is why today I have heard of many known Marehan groups who are assimilated deep into Ethiopia. It is my belief a large section of the Eastern Oromo are originally Somali speakers who had become separated from the Somali people in those wars.

and i co-sign to this I've read this somewhere
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Re: WTF, Rendille people?

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call me crazy but these people look very Somali

I wouldn't be surprised if they really are part of an ancestral Somali line that went off into Kenya hundreds of years ago...
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Re: WTF, Rendille people?

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BODHI wrote:
Voltage wrote:
The_Patriot wrote:So what are we left with to urgue about?
Perhaps a little something called language? The Somali language is not a section of Oromo as would be if the first Somali group (Dir) branched from Oromo. The Somali language is as old as Oromo which means if the Cushitic language is really a group of related languages and not sprachbund as some linguists are proposing (languages that came to be similar to each other due to location) then this means the Somali identity is as old as the Oromo identity and either is not the same as the other.

For the language to be as old as Oromo, the originally people who spoke it (Dir) had to have been equal to and never a part of Oromo.

Also, the rest of your information is garbage. Also I think the opposite is actually the case because Oromos were not even our true neighbors as late as the Ahmed Gurey times. Almost all that land including Harrar were the vicinity of Somali tribes and as we know, when the army of Ahmed Gurey was defeated by the portuguese, their remnants were flung to every part of Ethiopia which is why today I have heard of many known Marehan groups who are assimilated deep into Ethiopia. It is my belief a large section of the Eastern Oromo are originally Somali speakers who had become separated from the Somali people in those wars.

and i co-sign to this I've read this somewhere
i co sign too...

we are a distinct group, if you go by language..
and yes historically, we were bordered by other groups related to the gurage and sidamo, not the oromos..
the oromos still sidamos northerners, becuase in the south oromos lived to the south of bale province .
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