Ilaahay...

[SummerRain]

It's not about khat . Others have explained why.
It's not about qabil because there are other societys that also have qabil and they just don't use it as severly as Somalis do.do they?

It's about greed and power.

Examples:

1. A business man wants to hire an employee. He chooses the one that is most related to him,(qabil) Instead of hiring someone that is the most qualified. Why? it probably benefits his tribe inturn beneffting him-->.it's about greed and power. It would benefits society as whole if the qualified is hired.

2. There was a former leader of Somalia that retained leadership for 20 years? leadership in Somaliland is prolonging.his stay"problems with elections?' Somali leaders over stay their term.--->It's about greed and power.

3. Somalia has gone through one ruling group after the next. IUC, TFG, Al Shabaab etc. Everyone want's to be in charge--->It's about greed and power.

etc.etc

Basically Everyone whats to get his. His piece. ME ME ME. From the smallest thing to the largest
Where did this come from?
Maybe education can solve this? Also more time spent learning Islam?
just my 2cents

By far the most logical post in the thread.

[kambuli]

Copy and Paste,

I totally agree with you about the greed and our people..I have said this many times...Even I said, that we at least the majority of us love wealth before the work...If one loves wealth he should love work first.

But the problem of Khat nowdays can't be overlooked walaal..Maybe some of us are not aware of its damage..As many said in this joint..People who chew khat were small before..Now almost 80% of the population are chewing.

1. The nomad brings his camel to the market to sell when he hears" Soo dhacyey"...I am not kidding...Before the nomads used to sell their milk and buy sugar, rice etc not anymore.

2. Only one day the khat was stopped at the Kenyan, Nairobi airoport..It was $30,000.00...Just multiply by 30days!!!!
$900,000.00.....Can Somalis afford that? We are not talking about all those bundles that are brought to our country via road...

3. We can't say it is the sole cause of our problem..But it a big part of the causes walaal...

[GENERAL_SNM]

Qat is a personal habit people will not like their personal time being invaded, so any action taken by any authority will be seen as a direct attack. So rather then eradicating a problem you create a much bigger one. Also qaat is not the main problem in Somalia but one of many. With a staple government qaat could be taxed till it becomes to costly for the average joe, that money could then be used to educate the youth about the negative effects of qaad. But to expect a law to go through banning qat and then trying to enforce it would be impossible.

[Copy.&.Paste]

Salam

No Kambuli.

Bad behaviours are the WHOLE PRODLEM. It's the number ONE factor. The RESULT has lead Somalis to Khat abuse, Qabil abuse, Wealth abuse etc-------All the way to most extreme Abuse---->abusing and killing each other.


This is the root cause.We need to start from the beginning. Fix that. God willing things will fall in place

[Copy.&.Paste]

Is behaviour the right word? or is it bad character?bad actions? i don't know

[kambuli]

Copy,

I didn't say Khat is what started the problem..But it is one of the major problem...Khat is no better than other drugs..That is why the world fight against drugs...What is worse than a human being who sold his soul to khat?

But whatever you think is the problem..Dhaqan Xumo Or bad behaviour as you put it...How can we do the fixing part? Mind to throw your two cents... Education you mentioned...what else?

[Copy.&.Paste]

I didn't say Khat is what started the problem..But it is one of the major problem...Khat is no better than other drugs..That is why the world fight against drugs...What is worse than a human being who sold his soul to khat?

I didn't accuse you or claim that you said khat started the problem. Your saying it is a big problem . I agree. What i don't get is why is you're focusing so much on khat/drugs. When there are worst problems like killings. We should focus on the worst crimes first then go down the list

The question is what do we focus on first.

"How can we do the fixing part? Mind to throw your two cents... Education you mentioned...what else?"

start with somalia ,. Right now exclude Somaliland.

Right now achieving peace.obviously main goal..... that's different topic.

If we want to tackle greed/power hunger/selfishness first. ....which is One of many problems .
Yes educaition could help and expanding knowledge of islam. LEARNING IS GOOD.
But we need to take action. How?

To counter greed/power hunger/selfishness we need to increase kindness/&generosity&/compassion?

I'm going pick a random i idea.I could go with a small idea, but i'll go big. At some point maybe Somalia could create a programs that are geared towards people helping each other. One aspect could be volunteer work. Ex. A high student volunteering at junior school as a tutor. This high school student could work in a community that has no relations to him.

i don't know just an example.

But the point is to increase kindness/&generosity&/compassion? i think we could generate a lot of ideas, me thinks

[Dhaga Bacayl]

I didn't say Khat is what started the problem..But it is one of the major problem...Khat is no better than other drugs..That is why the world fight against drugs...What is worse than a human being who sold his soul to khat?

I didn't accuse you or claim that you said khat started the problem. Your saying it is a big problem . I agree. What i don't get is why is you're focusing so much on khat/drugs. When there are worst problems like killings. We should focus on the worst crimes first then go down the list

The question is what do we focus on first.

"How can we do the fixing part? Mind to throw your two cents... Education you mentioned...what else?"

start with somalia ,. Right now exclude Somaliland.

Right now achieving peace.obviously main goal..... that's different topic.

If we want to tackle greed/power hunger/selfishness first. ....which is One of many problems .
Yes educaition could help and expanding knowledge of islam. LEARNING IS GOOD.
But we need to take action. How?

To counter greed/power hunger/selfishness we need to increase kindness/&generosity&/compassion?

I'm going pick a random i idea.I could go with a small idea, but i'll go big. At some point maybe Somalia could create a programs that are geared towards people helping each other. One aspect could be volunteer work. Ex. A high student volunteering at junior school as a tutor. This high school student could work in a community that has no relations to him.

i don't know just an example.

But the point is to increase kindness/&generosity&/compassion? i think we could generate a lot of ideas, me thinks

Well put and realistic approach
Laakiin juxa yaa ka dhaadhicin.

[kambuli]

Dhega,

Iska daa qaadka That is why you calling me names and defending khat...Waar iska daa bahalka waad maqlaysey wixii uu ka sheegayey Abshir Bacadle eh

[Erigavo-Man]

A Tribute to the khat by Yusuuf Meygaag Samatar


1. Anigaa furoo qaadka waa lagu fahmeystaaye;
2. Filkaaga iyo waayeeladuu kula fariishaye;
3. Afkana wuu furaa maansaduu kuu fidshaa abid e;
4. Fagaarihiyo haasaawuhuu aad u fiic yahaye;
5. Kolkaad haw1 faraha saarto buu sii fariid yahay e;
6. Hayeeshee hadaan fiirshay waa kula fogaadaaye;
7. Hadaad maalin oo idil fadhido faydo kuuma leh e;
8. Fiidkii kolkaad sare kacduu kugu fidaayaaye;
9. Fakar iyo wuxuu kula galaa faalla aan jirin e;
10. Markaasaad wax jeer hore fakaday dib ugu fooftaaye;
11.Ood soo faqdaa xaaja aan fari ka noolayn e.
12. Waxbase hadalku yuu ila fidine waxaan ku faygooyey :
13. Kol hadaadan maal fara leh oo fiicanna u haysan,
14. Asaanad faraq ka soo buuxsaneyn beer ad sii falatay,
15. Nin faqiirahaw reerka yuu kaa fadqalalaynin.
LITERAL TRANSLATION
1. I, for one, unfolded the Qaat plant and find it to give
intelligence.
2. It makes you sit among the elders and men of your age;
3. It opens the mouth to sing Maanso verse;
4. It is good in conversation and courting;
5. And it is better when you set the hands to work.
6. But I pondered [its effects] and [find] it can carry you
away.
7. There is no gain for you to sit by [Qaat] all day long:
8. When you rise up from it in the evening, it begins to
overwhelm you,
9. Then it penetrates you with false hope and vain illusion,
10. Then you begin to relive the worry of lost opportunities
in days past,
11.And you bring back memories of lost causes.
12. In brief my advice is thus:
13. If you are in want of the wherewithal to guarantee you
[a good supply of Qaat]
14. And you cannot reap a harvest of it in your garden,
15. Oh, man of meager means, let not [Qaat] unsettle your
family

[Dhaga Bacayl]

Dhega,

Iska daa qaadka That is why you calling me names and defending khat...Waar iska daa bahalka waad maqlaysey wixii uu ka sheegayey Abshir Bacadle eh

Ma halkaasay kaa gaadhay?

If you only knew!

I don’t have a problem with people who chew khan. What they do with their time and money is their business. I have a problem with People that have a limited intelligence and naïve way of thinking who would blame the outcome rather than the sources. Mogadishu is burring because of political greed that started with your beloved dictator by the name of Siyad Bare. Everything you see today in Somalia is the product of that environment and the qabilist culture he created.

With all honesty, the love you have for "Somalia" is fake.

[kambuli]

Iney meeli ku cuncuneyso waan arkayey...At last waad iska soo badheedhey sidaasaa roon

Adiga dabka iyo holaca Xamar ayaad ku raaxaysataa...That is why ay kuu dhibeyso even the least mention of "'Maxaa talo ah oo aan dalka ka yeelnaa".

Inaad mujrim tahay oo aad munaafaq tahay maxay kuu dhibtey? Because Somalia inay degto waxay carqalad ku tahay aqoonsigaaga...Waan is ognahay labadeenu...

Siyaad adiga ayaa u shaqayn jirey, Madaxweynahaaga ayaa u shaqayn jirey, Wasiiradiisii dhashiisii ayaad tahay... Kuwii left and right u cuni jirey ayaad tahay...Kuwa isu sharaxaya ee u tartamaya Madaxweynanimada ayaa ahaa wasiiradiisii all of them...Kuwii AAbbow ugu yeedhi jirey ayaa ah adeeradaa...

Aniga iyo adiga waxaa caqli yar ka moodaya;

1 Inay faa'do ugu jirto inay sidaa ahaato Somaalia...
2. Ka moodaya baaba' Somaalida kale inay isaga aqoonsi u keeneyso...
3. Ka moodaya inuu caqli badan yahay oo qori dab leh Somaali kula dhex jiro..
4 .Ka moodaya inuu smart yahay mar haddii uu ka dhex shaqaysto Hawiye iyo Daarood...

You go to hell...Xishood iyo surmo midna ma istaahishide...Khaa'inul waddan baad tahay...

Waxaan maqli jirey "isla weyn doora weyn"!

Adigaa is moodaya inaad caqli leedahay, qof kas iyo garaad leh, bani aadamka intuu daf soo yidhaahdo...ma aflagadoodo..Oo weliba waxa uu ku haysto ay tahay...Simply...Maxaa talo ah...

Aniga ma waxaa I mooddey kuwa aad ku tidhaahdo...Irir baynu nahay? Marka ay kaasii jeestaana...Dee dameeraha wax la qaybsan mayno" You go away...Munaafaq aday agtaada taal...

Sidaa aad ay ku dhibtey..in xataa nabad iyo talo is weydiiyo ayaa ka sal ah..oo kaa dhab ah....

Acuudu Bilaa...Ninku nabad iyo wanaag la necebaa Somaali