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Re: Historical Picture

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:56 am
by CoolPoisons
Dhaga Bacayl wrote:
CoolPoisons wrote:
Dhaga Bacayl wrote:

Yet you still had ONE seat same as teh Pakis and Indians. :lol: :lol: :lol:
as an organisation we had one seat laakin where do U see the IIdor organization? maba lahayn :lol: :lol:

SYL was Darod, Marehana way ku jiraan and we still had our organization

The Hawiye had their own organization but no seats :lol: :lol:

Malaha waad huradaaye Iidoor had there own country called Somaliland. :lol:
^^ this 1960 sherlock :lol: :lol: doqonsana. This was markay British Somaliland iyo Italian Somaliland midoobeen

Dhagacabayl, ninyaho khatka iska yaree

Re: Historical Picture

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:58 am
by Twisted_Logic
CoolPoisons wrote:do some people here act like they're stupid ama are they really stupid

point that's so clear ayee ka murmayaan

war anagaa yaab aragnay
No, joke :lol:

Re: Historical Picture

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:59 am
by Dhaga Bacayl
Twisted_Logic wrote:
CoolPoisons wrote:
Dhaga Bacayl wrote:

Yet you still had ONE seat same as teh Pakis and Indians. :lol: :lol: :lol:
as an organisation we had one seat laakin where do U see the IIdor organization? maba lahayn :lol: :lol:

SYL was Darod, Marehana way ku jiraan and we still had our organization

The Hawiye had their own organization but no seats :lol: :lol:
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The SYL was Majerteen, hawiye, Dir and Isaaq. Why would Hawiye need a new party when it was leading the SYL? Simpleton :lol: :lol:

I don't think there was any Isaaq members in that assembly in 1956. I could be wrong.

Re: Historical Picture

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:00 pm
by CoolPoisons
At independence, the northern region had two functioning political parties: the SNL, representing the Isaaq clan-family that constituted a numerical majority there; and the USP, supported largely by the Dir and the Daarood. In a unified Somalia, however, the Isaaq were a small minority, whereas the northern Daarood joined members of their clan-family from the south in the SYL. The Dir, having few kinsmen in the south, were pulled on the one hand by traditional ties to the Hawiye and on the other hand by common regional sympathies to the Isaaq. The southern opposition party, the GSL, pro-Arab and militantly panSomali , attracted the support of the SNL and the USP against the SYL, which had adopted a moderate stand before independence.

http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-11959.html


Twisted_Hutu, U do know that SYL was majority Darod?

Re: Historical Picture

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:02 pm
by Dhaga Bacayl
[quote="CoolPoisons
^^ this 1960 sherlock :lol: :lol: doqonsana. This was markay British Somaliland iyo Italian Somaliland midoobeen

Dhagacabayl, ninyaho khatka iska yaree[/quote][/quote]


It says 19 the f-king 56. You idiot...

BTW, anigu khadka ma cabo. :lol:

Re: Historical Picture

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:03 pm
by Twisted_Logic
CoolPoisons wrote:At independence, the northern region had two functioning political parties: the SNL, representing the Isaaq clan-family that constituted a numerical majority there; and the USP, supported largely by the Dir and the Daarood. In a unified Somalia, however, the Isaaq were a small minority, whereas the northern Daarood joined members of their clan-family from the south in the SYL. The Dir, having few kinsmen in the south, were pulled on the one hand by traditional ties to the Hawiye and on the other hand by common regional sympathies to the Isaaq. The southern opposition party, the GSL, pro-Arab and militantly panSomali , attracted the support of the SNL and the USP against the SYL, which had adopted a moderate stand before independence.

http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-11959.html


Twisted_Hutu, U do know that SYL was majority Darod?
It doesn't matter. What matters is that after 1949, Hawiye was the dominant force in the SYL which made sure that the trusteeship government was led by PM Abdullahi Isse and the first government was led by Hawiye President Aden Abdulle Osman AUN to them both. :up:

Re: Historical Picture

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:11 pm
by AbdiWahab252
TL,

The darkest day in Hawiye history was when the regime executed General Gabeyre (AUN), General Caynanshe (AUN) & the others while Hawiye and Issaq stood by and did nothing. If we had formed a rebellion then, we would have deposed the dictator and saved Somalia.

We should have followed the words of great men like Sheik Ali Jimcaale (AUN) who saw the dangers of Jabertism back in the 1950s.

Re: Historical Picture

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:15 pm
by Xamud.
General Gabeyre AUN was executed cuz he went against everything he "stood" for, he was actually the one who said "anyone that tries too topple this regime shall be punished and killed", in the end he was just another power hungry Somali.

Re: Historical Picture

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:31 pm
by Twisted_Logic
AbdiWahab252 wrote:TL,

The darkest day in Hawiye history was when the regime executed General Gabeyre (AUN), General Caynanshe (AUN) & the others while Hawiye and Issaq stood by and did nothing. If we had formed a rebellion then, we would have deposed the dictator and saved Somalia.

We should have followed the words of great men like Sheik Ali Jimcaale (AUN) who saw the dangers of Jabertism back in the 1950s.
Salad Ali Gabayre was a man of huge ego. He would give speeches in the Parliament after the coup taunting not just MPs from other clans, but his own Wacesley MPs. Out of the two men who entered his house to make sure he was unarmed, one was Wacesley MP and the other was a Reer Xamar MP. He thought he was invisible, sadly he was betrayed by his own next of kin.

Re: Historical Picture

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:33 pm
by AbdiWahab252
TL,

Still, he did not deserve to be executed that merciless. MSB saw the lack of reaction from that execution as a greenlight to slaughter anyone he thought opposed him.

Re: Historical Picture

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:35 pm
by Twisted_Logic
AbdiWahab252 wrote:TL,

Still, he did not deserve to be executed that merciless. MSB saw the lack of reaction from that execution as a greenlight to slaughter anyone he thought opposed him.
The one who led him to his death-bed were his own kin. MSB could never dream to even talk when Gen Salad Ali Gabeyr was in the same room with him. Some-times, your worst enemy are your own people

Re: Historical Picture

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:25 pm
by CoolPoisons
Why are the Hutus trying to rewrite history

war anaga yaab aragnay

look how they're trying to make themselves out of something when during kacaan they were dameer herders

Re: Historical Picture

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:30 pm
by abdikarim86
Dhaga Bacayl wrote:[quote="CoolPoisons
^^ this 1960 sherlock :lol: :lol: doqonsana. This was markay British Somaliland iyo Italian Somaliland midoobeen

Dhagacabayl, ninyaho khatka iska yaree
[/quote]


It says 19 the f-king 56. You idiot...

BTW, anigu khadka ma cabo. :lol:[/quote]

forgive coolpoison

the retard cannot read :lol:

Re: Historical Picture

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:32 pm
by CoolPoisons
abdikariim, u sacab tumo qofkale, langaab foqal langaab

Waligiis asagoo bareeraya ma arkin. always clapping his butt cheeks for others

Re: Historical Picture

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:36 pm
by Cilmiile
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i dont think it is helpful to produce fantasy in regards to Somali history. Fantasy is best left to Walt Disney Inc.

Xuseen Kulmiye was not the deputy Commandant of the Police force. That honour went to General Qoorsheel of the Warsangeli. The Commandant was Maxamed Abshir Haamaan. Judging from this picture, it would appear from his posture and positioning that Kulmiye is acting as ADC (Aide de Camp) of the president. A capacity that was filled for President Siyaad by the majeerteen man Cabdi Madoobe.

The man wearing the white uniform cant possibly be General Daauud, Commander of Somali Armed Forces, and an army man. The man in the picture is wearing the white uniform of the Somali navy (a Marinaio as the Somalis used to call them).

I was also amused by the description of Salaad Gabayre holding a gun to Siyaad's head. Perhaps the story consoles your grieving heart. But I am more interested in the tale of Mareexaan missing from Xamar in the 60s but for the solitary presence of Siyaad.

Aadan Low and Sheekh Cabdulle were presented by Voltage. Allow me to add Xaaji Yuusuf Mareexaan. His own illustrious daughter, one of the first educated Somali women, who was head of the Bursary department of Education ministry. And availed many of her fellow mareexaan of the opportunity of higher education abroad :)

Mr koofiyadcadde. Wagardhac were represented by Lawaaxe who was graduate of Lincoln University in the states .... way way back in in 1936. Cabdiraxmaan Jaamac Barre was a senior bureaucrat inthe foreign ministry. Ilma Masale were in the Army. Claiming that there was not a single Marexaan in Xamar other than Siyaad is just plain silly. And undermines all your other arguments.