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Navy9 wrote:History is full of lies and is not meant to be taken truthfully since most of the time its the opinion of those who wrote it!!

Khalid was the most versatile soldier history has ever known-a true military genius. He had the strategical vision of a Changez Khan and a Napoleon, the tactical brilliance of a Timur and a Frederick the Great, and the individual strength and prowess of the half-legendary Rustam of Persia. In no other case in history do we see such diverse military virtues combined in one man. Khalid was one of only two great generals in history who never suffered a defeat. The other was Changez Khan, but Changez Khan was not a champion fighter like Khalid, even though his conquests covered a far greater region of the earth. Combined with Khalid's strategical and tactical genius was the extreme violence of his methods. To him a battle was not just a neat manoeuvre leading to a military victory, but an action of total violence ending in the total annihilation of the enemy. The manoeuvre was only an instrument for bringing about the enemy's destruction.

Khalid was the only man who inflicted a tactical defeat on the Holy Prophet-at Uhud. He was the first Muslim commander to leave Arabia and conquer foreign lands; the first Muslim to humble two great empires, one after the other. Almost all his battles are studies in military leadership, especially Uhud, Kazima, Walaja, Muzayyah, Ajnadein and Yarmuk. His finest battle was Walaja, while his greatest was undoubtedly Yarmuk

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bareento wrote:I think one should be biased to consider Imam Ahmed as conquerer, the guy conquered nothing.
At his death, all muslim Sultanates lost almost all wat they had, they were ruined.

He inspired terror to the Abyssinians and managed to chase the king from most Abyssinia.
He was offered a deal in which he was given two third of the christian kingdom, refused it and then lost everything.
That is wat makes me suspect he was most certainly of alien to the region and unaware of the power dynamic of that region.
He was most probably one of Somali-Bantu tribes in the present day Somali deep South, or Arab.

Gara Man, by pointing out how outdated Bareento (Bareeytumaa) oromo's weaponry compared to Imam Ahmed's, I was
emphasizing how much they achieved with far less.
Imagine, few years after the establishment of the Great Baantu Shrine of Odaa Bultum , the Humbanna branch
of Humbanna-Itu gadaa besieged Harer city,and the Itu branch besieged the Afar capital.

I think history of Imam Ahmed should be reconsidered, we must be able to discuss about the negative impacts he had on muslim population.
Had he not first allied himself with the Turks, Portugal would have never helped the abyssinians.
Thats the foundation of of abyssinan alliance with the wetsrn power!!!


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Aliyyi Oromada wrote: I remember Jaarraa talking about the Portugeuse military expeditions from Berbera into Hararge. He said their army was slaughtered at a place (I forget the original name), but the place their army was slaughtered was later renamed Bisiddiimo, because of the water which turned red with their blood. He narrated it from AQ elders.