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Siciid,

How can I be minority when I reside in the capital with the position of deputy mayor in Erigavo? the head of Police in the region? head of Health directorate? head of Marine? and Head of Justice and courts (all Biciide).......Pluse I manage the Taxes with the head of land and tax director - being udurhmin folk ;)

Sacad Yonis and Muse ismail are both single drip in the Ocean of Biciide.

Biciide reside the following districts with numbers;

Erigavo - Bahsanbuur ( reer salax, reer samatar, ba'cimraan, ba'muxumud, and jibril hasan) -
Ceelafweyn- Baho, Ahmed Farax, iidle Biciide, caraale iidle, B'muxumud of -(basanbuur)
District of Gar-adag - Reer iidle, cabdule farah, cali farah, and ahmed farah

Clearly settling in all those towns with huge numbers means that Muse ismail are minor plays within the sanaag context.

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Ceelafweyn wrote:Siciid,

How can I be minority when I reside in the capital with the position of deputy mayor in Erigavo? the head of Police in the region? head of Health directorate? head of Marine? and Head of Justice and courts (all Biciide).......Pluse I manage the Taxes with the head of land and tax director - being udurhmin folk ;)

Sacad Yonis and Muse ismail are both single drip in the Ocean of Biciide.

Biciide reside the following districts with numbers;

Erigavo - Bahsanbuur ( reer salax, reer samatar, ba'cimraan, ba'muxumud, and jibril hasan) -
Ceelafweyn- Baho, Ahmed Farax, iidle Biciide, caraale iidle, B'muxumud of -(basanbuur)
District of Gar-adag - Reer iidle, cabdule farah, cali farah, and ahmed farah

Clearly settling in all those towns with huge numbers means that Muse ismail are minor plays within the sanaag context.

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Ceelafweyn, what a load of nonsense, that is nothing compared to muse ismaaciil having the governor of erigavo for 19 years and beyond since 1991 :lol: and dominating it's daily affairs, and the governor of sanaag. 8-) don't make me bring taarikhda markii muse abokar ka qaxeen casiimaada and tried to seek alliance with dhulbahantes and warsangeli :lol: .



By the way the head of the police in Ceelafweyn wa Sacad Yunis - Reer Wacays, Col.Dhadhaace.
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waxan odhan lahaa langaabada muuse abokor


Nin calool galkaagii ogaa hatanaa ciroobey oo sir iyo caad kuu yaaqaan lagaamaa ceeb doono.

Hortaa rightwing wuxu ku cadaaday washaysii, maadaamaa oo uu ayeeyadiisii aabahii dhashay aflagaadeeyeey oo dhahay waxa dilii jirey awoowahay ceeb eey tacaal, rightwing ceebtii ma haa ee reerku kaa soo jeedaa noociiso miidhan baa kaa buuxaa, waxan ku dhaaraan karaa in aay san ayeeyadaa Sacad yoonis ahayn ee aad been noo sheegaysey sii aad ugu faanto in aad meel kaa soo gasho Habar yoonis.

Ceelafweyn hadii aan idin sharaxo sidaa lo kalaa dego

Sacad Yoonis subclans Elafweyn Area
Sacad Yoonis 85%
Cabdi Samatar
Reer Caweer
Reer Xildiid
Muuse Samatar
Reer Nuux
Reer Cabdale
Cali Cumar
Bihinaa Siciid (Reer Jibriil, Xasan Cumar, Xuseen Cumar)
Camaar Barkad
Faahiye Barkad
Reer Wacaas
Reer Naaleyee
Reer Axmed Cali
Reer Maxamuud
Reer Rooble
Adan Jibriil

15% others


Doorashadii Barlamaankaa waxa degaanka Ceelafweyn kaa soo baxay Hal xildhibaan halkunaa wuxu ahaa Sacad Yoonis
Xil. Bukhaari.

Doorashadii Degaanka sacad Yoonis wuxu kaa helay Degmada Ceelafweyn
2. Mayar ku xigeenka
2. Xoghaya
3. Xoghayahaa dhulka
4. Qasnajigaa Degmada
5. iyo 5 xubnood oo kale

sido kale

Qaadiga Degmadu waa Sacad Yoonis
Taliyahaa Booliska Degmadu waa sacad Yoonis

Mayarka Degmada Dararwayne Waa Sacad Yoonis iyo ku xigeenkubaa

sido kale ilaa maamulka tuulooyinkaa waa wayn ee hoos yimaadaa degmadu waa sacad yoonis.

Ceesaantaa loo bixiyeey rightwing waxan odhan lahaa

Lixdan oday jiraan ahee yaan indhahaa laydhii kaa mariin

anigu sidaa danaa maa huubo qaadaayo oo odhan maayo awoowahaybaa dili jirey ayeeyaaday markaa say barooran jirtey.

Xog badan oo aan hayaa jirtaa laakiinse marbaa intii logaa bahdaan sidaa labeentaa dujaa fandhaalka kagaa soo qaadayaa.

Udun

Maa ceesaantan baa private message ku soo diro kugu tidhii ii hiilii :lol: (ceesaantu maryo alol buu ku cadaaday haduu fodleydii Xudun tolnimo kaa deyeey) :lol:

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midiidiin danbee maanu shaqaalaynayno hadii aanu sacad yoonis nahay, xoolo danbee noo raaci maysaan!
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Re: langaabada muuse abokor soo galaa, Casharbaa lay din dhi

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Bohol iyo karaman wrote:waxan odhan lahaa langaabada muuse abokor

Sacad Yoonis subclans Elafweyn Area
Subclan .....................tirada
Cabdi Samatar ........... 85
Reer Caweer ..............93
Reer Xildiid ...............5
Muuse Samatar .......... 56
Reer Nuux .................32
Reer Cabdale...............87
Cali Cumar .................11
Bihinaa Siciid (Reer Jibriil, Xasan Cumar, Xuseen Cumar)..30
Camaar Barkad ...........21
Faahiye Barkad...........38
Reer Wacaas .............29
Reer Naaleyee ............18
Reer Axmed Cali ......... 54
Reer Maxamuud ......... 37
Reer Rooble .............. 81
Adan Jibriil ............... 15

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Sacad Yoniska Elafweyn area deggan waa 692 sumals.. 85% of those waa dumar Boho u dhaxay the rest are few lost inan-gumeeds
Reer Ugaadh, Isxaaq , baa uga badanba meesha.

Oday Biciide ah baa beri la yaabay Cumar caayaya Reer Yoonis markaasuu yiri;

Haddii Cumarba reer Yoonis yidhi caamo yahay aamus
Cirku muxuu da'aa sow arliga caasi kama buuxo.

Haatan Laba-sal-u-dhexeeye caayaya Baho-Biciid-Muse Abokor waxaan dhihi lahaa;


Dhabtay nagaga xaareen Sacad yooniskii dhoobiga ahaaye
Sagaalkii Dhurwaa een korsaday een dhimashaduu diiday
Haddii aanan anigu dhooy la'ayn iguma dhuuseene
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Re: langaabada muuse abokor soo galaa, Casharbaa lay din dhi

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Runlow,

looooooool "LABA SAL U DHEXEEYIHII SACAD YOONIS"

Soo dhameystir gabaygaa.......war dadkan aanu adoonsano ee maanta bartey PC iyo LAPTOP ee caaya masterkoodi.

Siciid,

Adigoo idareys ah ( waxan bartey idareysaka hareeri baan ku bartey), .....Aqoon uma lihid gobolka........You can find the war in Ceerigaabo on youtube how we captured your homes..... Gobolka Muse Ismail degmo keli ah bey gobolka ka degaan degmadaasina waa lala degaa waana CEERGAABO sxb ceergaabo degaankeeda waa la wada degaaa. Laakinse anigu ma indhahaad iska rideysaa.

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Re: langaabada muuse abokor soo galaa, Casharbaa lay din dhi

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Bohol iyo karaman wrote:waxan odhan lahaa langaabada muuse abokor


Nin calool galkaagii ogaa hatanaa ciroobey oo sir iyo caad kuu yaaqaan lagaamaa ceeb doono.

Hortaa rightwing wuxu ku cadaaday washaysii, maadaamaa oo uu ayeeyadiisii aabahii dhashay aflagaadeeyeey oo dhahay waxa dilii jirey awoowahay ceeb eey tacaal, rightwing ceebtii ma haa ee reerku kaa soo jeedaa noociiso miidhan baa kaa buuxaa, waxan ku dhaaraan karaa in aay san ayeeyadaa Sacad yoonis ahayn ee aad been noo sheegaysey sii aad ugu faanto in aad meel kaa soo gasho Habar yoonis.

Ceelafweyn hadii aan idin sharaxo sidaa lo kalaa dego

Sacad Yoonis subclans Elafweyn Area
Sacad Yoonis 85%
Cabdi Samatar
Reer Caweer
Reer Xildiid
Muuse Samatar
Reer Nuux
Reer Cabdale
Cali Cumar
Bihinaa Siciid (Reer Jibriil, Xasan Cumar, Xuseen Cumar)
Camaar Barkad
Faahiye Barkad
Reer Wacaas
Reer Naaleyee
Reer Axmed Cali
Reer Maxamuud
Reer Rooble
Adan Jibriil

15% others


Doorashadii Barlamaankaa waxa degaanka Ceelafweyn kaa soo baxay Hal xildhibaan halkunaa wuxu ahaa Sacad Yoonis
Xil. Bukhaari.

Doorashadii Degaanka sacad Yoonis wuxu kaa helay Degmada Ceelafweyn
2. Mayar ku xigeenka
2. Xoghaya
3. Xoghayahaa dhulka
4. Qasnajigaa Degmada
5. iyo 5 xubnood oo kale

sido kale

Qaadiga Degmadu waa Sacad Yoonis
Taliyahaa Booliska Degmadu waa sacad Yoonis

Mayarka Degmada Dararwayne Waa Sacad Yoonis iyo ku xigeenkubaa

sido kale ilaa maamulka tuulooyinkaa waa wayn ee hoos yimaadaa degmadu waa sacad yoonis.

Ceesaantaa loo bixiyeey rightwing waxan odhan lahaa

Lixdan oday jiraan ahee yaan indhahaa laydhii kaa mariin

anigu sidaa danaa maa huubo qaadaayo oo odhan maayo awoowahaybaa dili jirey ayeeyaaday markaa say barooran jirtey.

Xog badan oo aan hayaa jirtaa laakiinse marbaa intii logaa bahdaan sidaa labeentaa dujaa fandhaalka kagaa soo qaadayaa.

Udun

Maa ceesaantan baa private message ku soo diro kugu tidhii ii hiilii :lol: (ceesaantu maryo alol buu ku cadaaday haduu fodleydii Xudun tolnimo kaa deyeey) :lol:

Dagaalkuu majoogsanaayo ilaa aan kaa safeeyo forumkan Ceesaamahaa

Hortaa maa lays waydiiyeey yaa dagaalkaa bilaabay?!



Informative. :up: :sland:
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Re: langaabada muuse abokor soo galaa, Casharbaa lay din dhi

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Ceelafweyn, :lol: :lol: are in your dreams sxb? don't make me bring the somaliland report titled "somaliland searching for peace" which many SNM mujahiids took part of the interview, how muse abokar dhaan ka qaxeen magaalada ceerigaabo, and went to yufleh to stay with muse turwaa for a while :lol: and ceelafweyn which they have some relations with then it was in 1993 sanaag peace conference when they were invited back, laakinse ceerigaabo raga xukuma wa abdalle xamuud kuwaas kaliya ba magaaladana inaga saray, it was aqiil cheif muse ismaaciil who went to ceelafweyn and talked to the muse abokar and told them why they fled the city suddenly, taarikhda mar baan so bandhiigaya.
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"PEACE-CONFERENCE OF THE EASTERN ALLIANCE - Muse abokar, Gahayle, Mohamud Garaad, Sawaqroon" Warsangeli aka Gashanbuur, when they couldn't face the influence and military might of eastern H.Y. :lol: :lol:


"The Eastern Alliance is constituted of four different groups: Eastern Habar Tol jelo, Warsangeli,
Dhulbahante (Mohamound Gerad) and Gaheyle (Sawaqroon-Majerten). "



"However, the Gaheyle participated in some of the peace talks that were taken on by non-Habar Yonis clans, most important was the Garadag peace forum. The proclaimed Eastern Alliance that amalgamated the rival Habar Tol jelo and the dispossessed Harti clans appears to have the underlying objective of grouping against the dominant Habar Yonis."



And this is what happened when the H.J militia hijacked the suldan of ciidagales car & aid worker car! resulting in the H.J militia forcibly being attacked and fleeing erigavo.

"Habar Yoonis factions. During the war,
Habar Yoonis had harboured suspicions that the Habar Je’lo were sabotaging their efforts. One particular
incident which triggered distrust and animosity between the two clans is illustrative of this. Ismail Haji Nur
and Ahmed Mirreh, both of Habar Yoonis, travelled in 1990 to Gashaamo, where the SNM were meeting, to
request weapons for the war effort in Sanaag. On their way back to Erigavo, accompanied by Habar Yoonis
militia, were confronted by a Habar Je’lo militia who attempted to seize the weapons. The situation was
resolved without loss of life, but the level of trust between the two clans deteriorated (Nur, 2007).
Another incident occurred in April 1991, when two vehicles were on their way from Hargeisa to Erigavo to
assess needs and to deliver supplies. One car belonged to the Suldaan of the Iidagalle, a clan who, with the
Habar Yoonis, make up the Garhajis; the other belonged to an expatriate aid worker. The two vehicles were
hijacked by Burao-based Habar Je’lo militia near their base in Saraar. The militia then drove the vehicles
to Erigavo, causing unrest in the town and settled in a location in Erigavo called Berde (an old tree and a
local landmark). Habar Yoonis leaders asked that the cars be turned over to the SNM military in Erigavo.
When the militia refused, the Habar Yoonis SNM attacked them, forcibly retrieving the vehicles, which were
then returned to the owners. This issue so affected relations with the local Habar Je’lo, that they decided
to relocate from Erigavo to towns like Yufle and Dayaxa, where many Erigavo Habar Je’lo had family ties

(Nur, 2007; Talaabo, 2007)."


Muse abokar trying to establish ties with the warsangeli in the hope of countering Eastern H.Y influence :lol: :lol:

"between Habar Je’lo and Warsangeli, they agreed that the Dhulbahante would invite the Warsangeli to a
joint gathering involving all three clans. By this time, the Habar Je’lo had fallen out with the Habar Yoonis
and withdrawn from Erigavo. They were aware that there had been talks between the Habar Yoonis and
the Warsangeli, and they were keen to expand their contact with the Warsangeli in the hope of countering
Habar Yoonis influence."






Eastern H.Y described as the victorious clan in sanaag.

"During the civil war, the Eastern Habar Yonis which retreated in it's strategic formations of northern sanaag, and
abandoned most of the open border pastoral areas the Isaq and the Harti clans traditionally resided in
together. The Harti clans occupied these vacated mixed grazing areas and Erigavo town. The defeat of
the Darod dominated military regime, in February 1991, reversed the process. The Harti clans
re-grouped in their stronghold areas, and abandoned the mixed border grazing zone, which was taken
over by the victorious Eastern Habar Yonis.
"



Eastern Habar Yoonis described as establishing themselfs in the strongest military position in Sanaag.

"After the war the Habar Yoonis had become somewhat isolated from the other Sanaag clans. They had
established themselves in arguably the strongest military position in Sanaag, winning control of Erigavo, and
felt no need to engage with the others. However, by December 1992 and after the Garadag meeting, it was
clear that this isolation could lead to conflict with an alliance of Habar Je’lo, Dhulbahante and Warsangeli:
the Eastern Coalition."




The most important thing is what have this clans in the alliance had in common?

1. Gahayle they have been expelled to Bari - Puntland and no longer own any land in sanaag.
2.Warsangelis were severly Karbashed and some lands of theirs taken.
3.Dhulbahante was karbashed all the way to sool.
4.Habar jeclo was denied any importence in Erigavo district and were attacked forcibly when they hijacked the suldan of ciidagales car.
:idea:





Muse Abokar aad ku fanaysiid tayo maleh sxb casiimaadii ba laga cersaday, marka fanka naga yeera. :up:
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all the hj i have been around accuse cidagale of being dhul jiif and but now eega cida baabuur suldamo leeyihin dhexda u gashay ceebay tacaal
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^^^ :lol: :lol: next time uu rightwing dhuuljiif iyo waxas kula yimaado , taarikhdhaan tus of his beloved muse abokar being a dhuuljiif and a gashaanbur seeker with dhulbahante, warsangeli,gahayle, suwaqroon because they couldn't use their own xiiniyo. :up:
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"During the civil war, the Eastern Habar Yonis took refuge in the strategic mountain formation, and
abandoned most of the open border pastoral areas the Isaq and the Harti clans traditionally resided in
together.
This sums up. It is all clear how some were driven out to the mountains. :lol: :lol: Actually, no joy since it was an internal civil war that affected all communities.

Eastern H.Y described as the victorious clan in sanaag.
Ego boosting b-llshit. :lol: :lol: As a matter fact, the last major battle in the Sanaag conflict took place in the forest near the town of Damala Xagare and Eastern HY was crushed in that battle that they lost over 200 men and could not offer a fight back. It is mind boggling how one claims to be victorious, lost 200 men in battle, and never offered a fight back?

Well, it is normal for every Somali to have his own version of history and this kid's claim is no different.

Alliance between Dhulbahante - Ugaadhyahan, Warsangeli, and HJ - Musa Obokor to karbaash Eastern HY?
Hello, what am I hearing? This is how some people go weird evey minute, every hour, every day, moth, year, .... The reality was after the Dhulbahante and HJ peace was concluded in January 1991, Eastern HY could no do much without the support of HJ - Musa Obokor. Let us get real here. Every one can claim what he/she wants. The meeting that this kid is mentioning was how different communities in Sanaag can live together in peace. That is all. There were no intention to isolate any body. All of the communities have accepted the best way forward is to live together in Sanaag peacefully.
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"which was taken
over by the victorious Eastern Habar Yonis
."
8-)


"underlying objective of grouping against the dominant Habar Yonis."




"They had
established themselves in arguably the strongest military position in Sanaag, winning control of Erigavo
, and
felt no need to engage with the others. However, by December 1992 and after the Garadag meeting, it was
clear that this isolation could lead to conflict with an alliance of Habar Je’lo, Dhulbahante and Warsangeli:
the Eastern Coalition."





Enough said 8-)
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Re: langaabada muuse abokor soo galaa, Casharbaa lay din dhi

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Siciid,

Do not create any lies..............To start Muse ismail begged the tribal leaders of Muse abokor and asked to cease the hostility and started bragging about We are ISAAQ the same shit they utter whenever they get beaten by daroods.

Habarjeclo ilaa ceerigabo ilaa burco ayey ishaystaa....... ee HABAR YONISTAN MARBA ISAAQ KU gabaneysa ee hadana faanaya..........ALLAHU Akbar!

In your selected reports......you have proven that YUFLE was the military position of Muse Abokor during the war whilst Muse ismail Went and scaped to SURUD mountains!

Waan kula murmi lahaa laakinse nasiib daro waxaad tahay nin HY ay madax ka martey ( ee intaad faani lahayd orod Hy rag bey u bahantahay IDAREYSKA badi ) :D , soona baro dalka!!!

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