Which clan is strongest battle?

[Twisted_Logic]

Abdalla11,

And what is the stereotype of Shirib's people?

[Voltage]

nin gardaran ma guuleeysto

That's right, nin gardaran ma guulaysto and I will be the first to say juffada aan ka dashay oo Mareexaan baa gardarnayd waayo mooryaan ka mid ah baa dilay nin masaakiin ahaa oo wadaad waliba Mareexaan u ahaa tiina baa ku dhacday. Teeda kale Dir iyo xulufadeedi Xeraale waa laga kacshay oo Ceel Buur baa la geeyey sida kaliya ay kusoo laabteen waxay ahayd nin la yiraahdo Cabdi Guuleed oo reer Siyaad ah lakin wasiirka arrimaha gudaha u ahaa Cabdiqaasim ayaa reer Siyaad amaba bah-Hawiyaha reer Diini iyo Dir dhex dhigay heshiis. Fiqi Muxumud aduunka meel aad joogtid ka eeg hooyadi waa Mareexaan ama ayeydi wa Mareexaan. Fiqi Muxumudka meel ay Somalia ka dagaanba Mareexaan bay magan u yihiin, ama waxay dagaan Dhusamareb iyo Cabudwaaq inta u dhaxayso ama degmada Luuq ee Gedo.

Teeda kale qof kasto oo ka mid ah qabiilada waa wayn ee Mudug, Dir haday dagaal la gasho qoloda ay kasoo horjeedo way la dagaal gashaa. Case in point is labadii jeer ee Surre la dagaal gashay oo Sacad ciribtirtay intuba Saleebaan iyo reer Khalafka Majeerteen baa la dagaal galay Dirta.

[Voltage]

500 HG from Mudug brought down Siyaad's dowlad, well damn, then I guess they win this trophy all together

I suppose the MJ who got the ball rolling in 1978 don't count, nor the 80's Isaaq rebellion that weakened the government, as well as the combined Hawiye USC offensive, nor the Raxanweyn betrayal even though Siyaad is the man who said siinaan and gave them equality? Shirib you know damn well, you don't know anything with respect to this so bro iska aamus and come to me for info.

The famous Dhulbahante poet in his poem Xarbi Sade iyo Xin Kablalax (The bravery of Sade and Envy of Kablalax) said this about the Marehan victory in Muslim vs. Mareexaan war:

Mareexaan dalkiisii xoree Ama xallaaleeye
Waatuu xagaagii Dhawayd xoog ku soo galaye
Xaaraami waligiisba waa xagal ka daacaaye
Xaq ku dirirse Eebbaa lajira oo xagiisa ah'e

...

Xawaadle iyo Dudublaa ku go'ay xowligii Gedo'e
Colkuu xulay caydiid doraad looma xiiq tirane
Xarbiyahandii reer Sade baa xuub sidiis liqaye


http://www.golkhatumo.com/Xin.htm (Dhulbahante poem site)

He is talking about the beginning of the war when it was Muslim vs. Mareexaan, even fellow Darood led by Mohamed Abshir Hamaan (chief of police in the 60's and Mj-Ciise Maxmud) were in on the war and conspiring against us only to let it be known by Caydiid this was Hawiye vs. Darood after we the Mareexaan left in which more Majeerteen suffered in Muqdisho than Mareexaan including drowning in boat capsizes escaping to Mombasa, Kenya. In this guubaabo, the Dhullo says Mareexaan has freed his land and cleansed it of injustice, and asks if Sade did not come in cleanly and purify it of evil and then he goes on to say Hawadle and Duduble have suffered in the campaign against Gedo, the enemy that Aydiid has bound together have seen a force unforeseen before, because God is with the warrior Marehan and the justice they seek.


He was basically saying Marehan have annihilated the united enemy and he specifically used Hawadle and Duduble instead of Habar Gidir and Abgaal to show this was a united effort against one Darod clan and all of this he attributes to Marehan's god given bravery and valor. Don't talk about what you don't know bro. If Habar Gidir could defeat Siad or Marehan, they would have taken Caabudwaaq which was a garrison town by Marehan geeljires instead of Gaalkacyo (which was also freed by Marehan without support from Barre who put emphasis on south).

[Shirib]

Voltage,

Did u even read what that statement was in response to?

[Voltage]

The guys that were exiled out of Somalia from their oldest habar to their unborn son, have now the audacity to talk about bravery iyo courage in battle. Some people have no shame :down

@ A person from the dusty corners of Cabudwaq calling someone from Jowhar jahil. mucjisada aduunka

Wallahi you do an injustice to every single Abgaal I have met in life. They are good people without any cuqdad and I take offense an Islam hating, dark arts worshipping, fellow like you represents them here. Good relatives of mine have Abgaal blood include my first cousins from my mom's side. My experiment with them is almost a universal experience in which you are a complete outlier. Don't say you represent Abgaal because until recently my very first cousins have lived there and you don't know the very first thing about it.

[Twisted_Logic]

The guys that were exiled out of Somalia from their oldest habar to their unborn son, have now the audacity to talk about bravery iyo courage in battle. Some people have no shame :down

@ A person from the dusty corners of Cabudwaq calling someone from Jowhar jahil. mucjisada aduunka

Wallahi you do an injustice to every single Abgaal I have met in life. They are good people without any cuqdad and I take offense an Islam hating, dark arts worshipping, fellow like you represents them here. Good relatives of mine have Abgaal blood include my first cousins from my mom's side. My experiment with them is almost a universal experience in which you are a complete outlier. Don't say you represent Abgaal because until recently my very first cousins have lived there and you don't know the very first thing about it.

I like this kid, wallahi

[Voltage]

Voltage,

Did u even read what that statement was in response to?

Yeah from Murax, he accurately said the Habar Gidir took on the majority Abgaal of Muqdisho and carved out their niche. Not exactly inaccurate, however you responded it was Habar Gidir who destroyed Siad when it was collective rebellion including Darods that weakened the central government and even the final campaign against Siad included Darods and Rahanweyn not only Hawiye. I used the Dhullo poet to let you know how shocked he was that Darods were in on a united attempt against a single Darod sub-clan and gave respect to Marehan, instead of succumbing, but preserve ring against that united injustice. By the way I am sure by now you know I have lost more relatives to Raxanweyn jidka noo galay than I could ever lose to Hawiye or let alone the Habar Gidir whom my own reer Siyaad, out of all Marehan, neighbor and kept in line for you to make a disingenuous remark.

[Twisted_Logic]

Voltage,

Did u even read what that statement was in response to?

Bro, you touched a raw nerve. The response was expected.

[Voltage]

I like this kid, wallahi

I give you one thing and that is you are educated, right Twisted? As an educated individual you should know your views represent yourself and should not have a bearing on a whole community of whom even if your brother can disagree with you. I have gotten into couple fights on here from some ranging from the more eccentric Coolpoison to the more academic Warsame in order to stress my individuality and let my views be taken as representing me and not having bearing on anything else. Don't do an injustice to Abgaal (whom I have heard from the majority of my own Marehans saying are a peace-loving communal group who only care about making an honest living) by likening them to your own individual viewws derived from your own feelings and experiences.

[Shirib]

Voltage,

Did u even read what that statement was in response to?

Yeah from Murax, he accurately said the Habar Gidir took on the majority Abgaal of Muqdisho and carved out their niche. Not exactly inaccurate, however you responded it was Habar Gidir who destroyed Siad when it was collective rebellion including Darods that weakened the central government and even the final campaign against Siad included Darods and Rahanweyn not only Hawiye. I used the Dhullo poet to let you know how shocked he was that Darods were in on a united attempt against a single Darod sub-clan and gave respect to Marehan, instead of succumbing, but preserve ring against that united injustice. By the way I am sure by now you know I have lost more relatives to Raxanweyn jidka noo galay than I could ever lose to Hawiye or let alone the Habar Gidir whom my own reer Siyaad, out of all Marehan, neighbor and kept in line for you to make a disingenuous remark.

Ok so I was pretty much trynna tell Murax who said that 500 HG defeated Abgaal was inaccurate with that statement.

HG had the most fighters in USC so if they only numbered 500 must mean every other clan was smaller...which mean USC was actually small

Which in return means Hawiye, Rahanweyn and everone was actually probably only what a thousand to two thousand strong. And that brought down Siyaad?

Anyways stop writing essays, the whole statement was to tell Murax he was inaccurate

[abdalla11]

He was basically saying Marehan have annihilated the united enemy and he specifically used Hawadle and Duduble instead of Habar Gidir and Abgaal to show this was a united effort against one Darod clan and all of this he attributes to Marehan's god given bravery and valor. Don't talk about what you don't know bro. If Habar Gidir could defeat Siad or Marehan, they would have taken Caabudwaaq which was a garrison town by Marehan geeljires instead of Gaalkacyo (which was also freed by Marehan without support from Barre who put emphasis on south).

sxb, if you lost two cities in 91 which are still occupied, left your president when shit hit the fan, heard the speach of caydiid in dollow (some marehan were probably making notes) surrundered hundreds of militia men to usc, ran away from the battle of afgoye, invited amxaaro to free gedo, wallahi iyo billahi gaalkacyo should be the last of your concerns. If you're a man of courage you would help your fellow kinsmen, the wagardhac, who are becoming extinct due to karbaashes they receive from HG.'We will watch from the sidelines how wagardhac is getting massacred but we will defend MJ lol

Go ask around who Abdurahmaan saif was, the rer xirsi kid.

I wouldn't have replied but this nonsense makes me sick

[Twisted_Logic]

I like this kid, wallahi

I give you one thing and that is you are educated, right Twisted? As an educated individual you should know your views represent yourself and should not have a bearing on a whole community of whom even if your brother can disagree with you. I have gotten into couple fights on here from some ranging from the more eccentric Coolpoison to the more academic Warsame in order to stress my individuality and let my views be taken as representing me and not having bearing on anything else. Don't do an injustice to Abgaal (whom I have heard from the majority of my own Marehans saying are a peace-loving communal group who only care about making an honest living) by likening them to your own individual viewws derived from your own feelings and experiences.

With all do you respect, who are you to say whether I represent my clan or not? I hope you keep your silly criteria to yourself.

If you have Abgaal cousins, good for you. i don't see how this fits into this discussion. I have Marehan nephews and nieces, do you see me celebrate this? Saaxib, for the purposes of civility, let's keep our family affairs to ourselves.

[grandpakhalif]

Abdalla11,

Why do you always arrive when Galkacyo is mentioned ?

[abdalla11]

Abdalla11,

Why do you always arrive when Galkacyo is mentioned ?

i usualy don't read his long posts, but my eye catched 'gaalkacyo'. I mentioned how marehaan were in no position to help others, they had their hands full sxb. people can't lie about events that happened in our lifetime just to make themselves feel good, waxaas waa gunnimo. Just use your logic and ask yourself: are people that did all those things i've mentioned capable of helping and rescuing others?
'qofkaas kabaha ka tolaneysid, kabihiisa baa la fiirshay' iyo 'dantiisa wax yeele baa dadka wax tara'. Some of your cousins are even claiming Morgan and his militia wtf, when we all know everybody was serving under his clansmen and his clan agenda. Even the honorable ex-PM Abdirizaaq xaaji xusein became an SSDF member and contested for its leadership, while his file is free of qabilism. Like the carabs say "everything returned into its origin. Morgan gave MJ a monopoly in kismayo, are they claiming that they fought with Morgan and watched how MJ had monopoly on a city they liberated? Where's the common logic?

[Murax]

Shirib,

Obviously You do not know the concept of expression. Obviously You know nothing about the civil war but in the late '80s the Government was viewed in all of Somalia's eyes as a Marexaan Gov. They were made through mass propaganda to be this royal, abusing family a la Ahl Saud, etc. When the war broke out, Marexaan were obvously on the defensive and there wasn't any one on one fighting. Everybody including Your Raxanwein who were later severely punished by Marexaan and exiled out of Baardheere attacked Marexaans. When it was a one on one effort of MR Vs Any other Qabiil Marexaan was always on top. In Mudug when it was MR Vs HG Balanbale, Caabduwaaq were never captured, and Marexaan were even on the offensive fighting in Hiiraan (Matabaan), Galkacyo, The 4 month war on the other hand was nothing but a small band of HG fighting Abgal in Xamar, and they carved out the most beautiful (albiet now destroyed) areas of the city like Hodan, Hawlwadaag, Shirkooke, KM4, Villa Somalia, etc.