are we allowed to have concubines?

[kadarre]

I wouldn't mind having these as my concubines. IDF soldiers

[FAH1223]

How the hell are you going to obtain concubines in this day and age? It doesn't happen, its an outdated practice.

Sure, its permissible in times of war when a Muslim state was overrunning non-Muslim areas, but none of that shid is happening now.

Just cause its permissible, doesn't make it obligatory or something needing to be done or rehatched.

[VanHersi]

alhamdulillah, I want a Halal girlfriend not wife. I need halal girlfriends walahi.

Guys how do I do this, pls help me

[kadarre]

Je mag aleen neuken met je vrouw. Wat heb je aan een vriendin die aleen halal word als je haar gaat trouwen?

[Shirib]

samdoon,

This is similar to slavery, which isn't outright banned in Islam but looked down on. Concubines were war booty, and if there was an Islamic war now, concubines probably would be acceptable. But right now we are not allowed to have slaves nor concubines.

[HalfDzed]

Samadoon

Do you even understand how the phrase "mulk al-yamiin" came in to existence? It came about as a direct result of fighters in Jihaad capturing these women with their own hands, this was how it was done. Meaning you had to be a Mujaahid in battle, away from his wife & family, facing an unknown fate - this was one of the things they obtained along with whatever other war booty there was. This mostly happened during Jihaad away from Muslim lands and these men were allowed to be intimate with these women to discourage zina & fawahishaat. So, instead they were told that they could keep these women, provided they took care of them, showed them kindness and responsibility. It meant they could not swap these women with their buddies, or sell them. The tradition of gifting to elites is a misuse of this practice. Yes, gifting used to happen, but only to another fighter or a commander in the Mujaahideen army. Never to a man who sat on his ass while everyone else risked their neck for Jihaad. Just because some perverted Arabs did this with the Ummayad empire like Yazid ibn Mu'awiyah who never went to Jihaad and was said to keep a harem of young girls does not mean its acceptable.

Its not practical in today's environment, not to mention the millions of Muslim women who deserve a halaal marriage and husband.

[samadoon-waaxid]

samdoon,

This is similar to slavery, which isn't outright banned in Islam but looked down on. Concubines were war booty, and if there was an Islamic war now, concubines probably would be acceptable. But right now we are not allowed to have slaves nor concubines.

are u sure there arent wars ?

[Shirib]

samdoon,

This is similar to slavery, which isn't outright banned in Islam but looked down on. Concubines were war booty, and if there was an Islamic war now, concubines probably would be acceptable. But right now we are not allowed to have slaves nor concubines.

are u sure there arent wars ?

There is no caliphate, Muslim armies aren't over running any other peoples are they?

[VanHersi]

Your saying I have o have a slave girl and the only way to have that is if I join al-shabab? Lol

I want a christian, slave girl so I'm not doing something not "nice" to a somali or muslim girl if I was gonna have a concubine.

But what about a Xaalal Girlfriend where I can have permissible sex

[OliveOil]

[VanHersi]

What walalo? Think about it, there must be a way for me to have a Xaalal girlfriend, so I can have halal sex.

You understand walaal

[BlackVelvet]

I don't know....

I have a hard time accepting things that don't make sense to my rational mind. Practices such as this in Islam is one of the reasons that I have a hard time accepting that its the true word of God. It seems more like the word of MAN.

How does it make sense for God to say on one hand NO SEX OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE

and on the other hand......OH YEAH BUT YOU CAN KEEP FEMALE SEX SLAVES AS PLAY THINGS

either its one or the other

you can't have both

I see where you're coming from, taking women as sex slaves is abominable. However to be objective I think you should look at the context, this was at a time and in a society where war was frequent and the taking of slaves was the norm, when those slaves are women, the sex part isn't much of a stretch. And as someone on this thread pointed out, these rules were made to protect the women taken as slaves, the Muslims were to treat them better than any slaves were treated at the time and then encouraged to set them free. I see that as a pragmatic solution to a problem.

On a different note most of the guys on this thread are disgusting creatures. Seems the only way most of you are gonna get some is if you get a slave, weak.

[Shirib]

what are you shocked about

[HalfDzed]

Your saying I have o have a slave girl and the only way to have that is if I join al-shabab? Lol

I want a christian, slave girl so I'm not doing something not "nice" to a somali or muslim girl if I was gonna have a concubine.

But what about a Xaalal Girlfriend where I can have permissible sex

One of the mods should expose this thing's other nicks and then give it a time-out.

[bareento]

This is outright ,direct invitation to mass rape
I wonder how one can justify this

Even primitive tribes do not rape the women of the conquered people!

If God sends me to Hell for this opinion, I will go there joyfully, cause
I used the very mind He gave me and the very mercy He instilled to me to find it ABJECT!

B.