The Curse of Ham amongst the Somalis

[Garaad_LQ]

Skin Color Map of Indigenous Peoples

what a BS map
so Yemenis are darker then most South-west Africans




anyway , this topic gotta be somewhere in the Comedy Section

[DisplacedDiraac]

^Ofcourse its BS.. Indians are the blickest!!

[LobsterUnit]

Some people on this forum love being heard and controversial.

[Abdihaliim]

Skin Color Map of Indigenous Peoples

what a BS map
so Yemenis are darker then most South-west Africans

anyway , this topic gotta be somewhere in the Comedy Section

South African Bushman

indigenous Yemen

indigenous indian

indigenous nuer and Dinka (South Sudan)

And You say BS

[waryaa]

Have you noticed that in this world, the darker you are the more evil you are and the lighter you are the more angelic you are? I have predicted that the Curse of Ham is very authentic (saheeh). In every culture in the world, whether it is in Asia, Europe or the North Pole, the dark man is ridiculed and taken for jest. Read what Mudane Abraham ibn Ezra said:

"And the meaning of '[Cursed be Canaan, he will be a slave] unto his brothers' is to Cush, Egypt, and Put [only], for they are his father's [other] sons. And there are those who say that the Cushim [black skinned people] are slaves because Noah cursed Ham [the father of Cush], but they forget that the first king after the flood [Nimrod] was a descendant of Cush, and so it is written, 'And the beginning of his kingdom was Babylonia." Mudane Rabbi Abraham ibn Ezra, explanation of Genesis 10:10.
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Your theory on somalis doesn't make any sense since worst and most evil people in recorded history were not black. I am interested in the above quote though. I have a book called "History of Prophets" written by a Pakistani scholar. I don't have immediate access to the book now but I think it was written a very long time ago. The way it was written is that he uses Koran then Hadiths, thn the bible, etc, and finally Jewish literature as source. The book says that Prothet Noah caught one of his sons having sx with his wife in the boat and didn't like it. He didn't curse him per se but he was kinda shocked and didn't like what he saw. Then the baby that was produced in the act was born black. It doesn't say he was born slave but with the dark skin.

Evolutionists say the closer you are to the equator, the darker you are. They have explanations for everything from orientals having small eyes and Africans with dark skin. I am not saying we came from apes but the fact is that we have albinos dying of cancer in African continent and more blacks being treated for vitamin D deficiency than whites in North America. The color, hair type, eye size all are perfect for their natural environment.

[Garyaqaan1]

Ruralman08

Saxiib niyadaada lama raacraaco yahuudna wax lagama qaato, maxaayeelay kitaabka hada aa soo xigatay waa mid taxriif lagu sameeyay.

Waxaan ku dhihi lahaa ka joog caqiidaad noocaa oo kale waa denmbi in la qaato ama xataa la sheegsheego.

[Padishah]

Why did Allah allow them to be taken for slaves?

Ottomans enslaved Balkan people for centuries. I assume, based on your logic, that all the slaves taken from Europe during the Ottoman Empire came down with sudden and incurable cases of blackness? No? Any rudimentary knowledge of history would inform you that chattel slavery was not unique to dark skinned sub-Saharan Africans, no matter the circuitous and tortured logic that brought you to this conclusion.

I believe that the ancient Kushitic peoples (Ethiopians, Eritreans, North Sudanese, Djiboutians and a 5% of Somalis) are exempt from this.

Doesn't the cognitive dissonance hurt? The myth you've cited doesn't offer any exceptions, loop holes and advantageous clauses that would substantiate your belief. If Ham was curses, so were his descendents. If he wasn't, and Canaan was, then this has nothing to do with dark skinned people.

We have built civilization, preserved it and brang culture and traditional values to the world before the white man existed.

What are you blathering about? Do you actually take this Biblical genealogy stuff seriously?

The Curse of Ham descends only on those people (Somalis) who have strayed from the path of righteousness.

Suddenly, the Curse of Ham is selective all of a sudden.

Of course, this all ignores the fact that the whole myth is ridiculous fairytale. The curse was put on Canaan, the younger son of Ham. Say what you will about the ridiculous nature of this genealogy, but Canaan and sub-Saharan Africa can't be linked by even the wildest stretch of the imagination.

[udun]

Is it me or are the gadabirsi in this forum a bunch of self-hating morons? Kulaha ilaahey baa madow iga digay so I must have sinned. WTF that's not a religion, that's a mixture of stupidity, ignorance and racism.

Gadabursi are like the chosen people because very few have commited sins like murder, transgression etc. Are you the Nilotic Iiddor whose appearance was changed by Allah to look like a black vampire? Look at this graduate of Hargeisa University, this is a typical man whom the Curse of Ham has descended upon:

[Mckuus]

I don't think those biblical stories make much sense.

The Human population did not derive from only a handful of men from 4000 years ago. That's impossible.

[Mckuus]

what a BS map
so Yemenis are darker then most South-west Africans

anyway , this topic gotta be somewhere in the Comedy Section

Iraq is the same color as Mozambique according to that map

A clear joke, much like this entire topic.

[RuralMan08]

I assume, based on your logic, that all the slaves taken from Europe during the Ottoman Empire came down with sudden and incurable cases of blackness? No? Any rudimentary knowledge of history would inform you that chattel slavery was not unique to dark skinned sub-Saharan Africans, no matter the circuitous and tortured logic that brought you to this conclusion.

Look at this darkie trying to hoodwink the whole situation by claiming that there are slaves of other origins other than black; unfortunately when a man from the Balkans walks down the road in any part of the world the last thing that is associated with them is slavery, this is due to the concept of the mind, the Curse of Ham is related to the sub-consciense aswell and not only to historical fact. It's possible that a Hutu from Somalia would be called 'Abeed even though he has no history of slavery in his family whilst a white Bosnian Muslim whose forefathers might have been washing the shoes and cleaning the toilets of the Ottoman kiings and princes will never be though of as such in regards to appearance alone.

Doesn't the cognitive dissonance hurt? The myth you've cited doesn't offer any exceptions, loop holes and advantageous clauses that would substantiate your belief. If Ham was curses, so were his descendents. If he wasn't, and Canaan was, then this has nothing to do with dark skinned people.

The Curse of Ham is figurative in nature, I am speaking of dark pigmented individuals in outer appearance and in their inner appearance (dark souls).

What are you blathering about? Do you actually take this Biblical genealogy stuff seriously?

The Bible is a historical book, even though it contains very foolish material that can be seen as nothing more than a male'sinterpretation of the world, it still has some form of relevance when speaking in historical terms.

Suddenly, the Curse of Ham is selective all of a sudden.

Of course, this all ignores the fact that the whole myth is ridiculous fairytale. The curse was put on Canaan, the younger son of Ham. Say what you will about the ridiculous nature of this genealogy, but Canaan and sub-Saharan Africa can't be linked by even the wildest stretch of the imagination.

The Curse of Ham is not selective, rather it descends on those who adopt the culture, traditions of those who were cursed in the first place. That is why you should never sleep with a Jew because the curse that descends would not spare you. If the Somalis adopt black culture (a dark visceral culture) then they shall be cursed aswell. Case point: The Hutus of Somalia, when they embraced their Hutu-ism, they were cursed and their city is still in tatters today.

[The_Emperior5]

But rural man this story ham sham kush ram nag all that stuff is in the bible , and we are Muslims

[Spursman]

acudbillah caadi iska dig

[RuralMan08]

But rural man this story ham sham kush ram nag all that stuff is in the bible , and we are Muslims

Waa runtaa but sometimes the Bible has some truth even though most of it is lies

[Mckuus]

The Curse of Ham is figurative in nature, I am speaking of dark pigmented individuals in outer appearance and in their inner appearance (dark souls).

This is so embarrassing, if you really believe this I pity you.

The reason why people in the tropics are dark is because of evolution. People with low melanin content ('light skin') were in a disadvantage in those environments. They were more likely to suffer from numerous skin diseases and were less likely to have children.

Eventually they were completely replaced (strong positive natural selection) by high melanin content ('dark skin') individuals because those were more biologically fit. The reverse happened in northern latitudes where a low melanin content was selected for out of necessity.