My Realization On Somalis In Light Of Arab Protests

[SahanGalbeed]

Post dictatorship Somalia has become the blueprint for how not to manage the downfall of a dictator for many countries in the arab world. That does not mean others would not have known a similar outcome had Somalia not turned out the way it is .

[Username1]

Murax in today's Somalia tribes or groups exist who enjoy anarchy and dislike organised unity. These same groups are the same ones who historically the colonials found it hard to work with. Nation building requires passive aswell as aggressive qualities, certain tribes consider allowing other tribes to take the lead as a none starter. This attitude is not helpful to nation building as not everybody can be president.This attitude as a Southern Somali problem in Somaliland people have a quality that the average Joe in the south lacks they are able to see past today and work for the bigger picture. I know you will argue but the south has much more tribes, China has more people then Somalia and they are peace and we are not.

[tightrope]

Either by Omission or Commision Every somali is responsible for what is happening. He has moments of brilliance.

Pan-Africanist.

Monsieur you still haven't been banned?

PROF. SAMATAR FOR PRESIDENT!

[HalfBked]

What do you care? Let them worship their clans, wallow in their miserable existence - while you make it rain.

That's my plan, don't even remember the last time I read or paid attention to Somalia and its issues.

[abdalla11]

People who solely blame either the Government or the shacab don't know the reality.

[Basra-]

[quote="HalfBked"] don't even remember the last time I read or paid attention to Somalia and its issues.[/quote]



Half

I find it hard to accept that statement. That lie, actually. You pay attention, hour by hour if not by seconds.Its part of WHO you are my dear.


PS Do u still reside in atlanta?

[HalfBked]

I was being honest, Basra. Yh, I'm still in chocolate town aka Hotlanta. When are you going to finally give me your digits?

There's a Shakespeare festival at my school every Spring, if you're a good girl, I just might score you some tickets.

How's life in Barnaabilis?

[Basra-]

Halflooool


I know you were being honest. And i do acknowledge your hard work and mission to make it true. But meanwhile i am afraid you will just have dwindle in the hour by hour bulletins, and sometines sporadicky seconds by seconds. I say, take it day by day, begin with unsubcribing your email alert news, then , try to stay away from your pc, for at least an hour a day, i am not going to suggest a day away, because even i know how bad it can be. Mpls is fantastic. Its a joyful place to be. It wont be healthy for u because u will be updated by the donut dunkins gatherings of what is going on in the news. I know it is a struggle for u but hang in there. My digits will come one sweet day. LOL



PS I dont enjoy Shakespeare. He is a very masculine oriented writer. I am more Oscar Wilde.

[HalfBked]

Basra - I'm a work in progress, with fans like you, I've full confidence in over-coming my noted fixation.

Mpls is warm these days? 'tiss Spring darlin', get those muscles moving, time to venture outside of Cedar Park. Like a slow moving reptile, breaking out of hibernation, I hear all the skinnies are finally waking up from this year's brutal winter. Ah yes, the digits - I'm a patient man.

[Basra-]

[kadarre]

Murax you are either depressed or bored. Why do you keep talking about Somalis?

[mashallahbro]

ASAK brothers and sisters you are safe outside Somalia civil wars have happen to many countries whether you believe Somalis have no faith in there country or are not wadaani and filled with qaabila and never had a country before as the Western nations had enigneered one for them. That is your own opinion out of suffering people will realize they need to solve there problem thus solve Somalia to end the suffering. Eventually this will end and all of Somalia will come together and restore Somalia.

Your brother

Mashallahbro

[union]

Germany only became a state in the 1800s, before then it was just a bunch of little dukedoms. The Chinese united after being fragmented for hundreds of years, The British are a union of three separate nations...the examples are endless. What Somalia needs is a strong warlike figure that will bring order to a bunch of ungrateful and unruly little skinny wildmen that are self absorbed faggots.

[gurey25]

I agree with murax but i have to correct this..

this is incorrect.
We were never a subset of abbysina, why and how did you get this idea?
The christian highlanders never passed the awash, only amde seyon in 1340 went as far as berbera and this was just a massive raid, after adal was defeated.
He destroyed towns and villages looted and then went home..
No other xabasha follwed him, infact the muslims went the other way between 1522 and 1545 and raided all the way to eritrea..

The only time xabasha ruled what is today somali territory was during the height of Axsums power.
Remeber axum was a naval power they ruled the entire coast from port sudan to the north all the way to Bossaso.
And this was only a brief period of 50 years, becuase they lost to the Persian navy.
Axum was not a landpower and had only minimal control south what is today Tigray.
Shoa and gondar were agew lands and were vassals that were not fully incorporated in the empire..

If they did not have full control over shoa where did you get the idea that they controled somalis??

Todays somalis were probably cowherding nomads that had little contact with the coast, probbaly another subset of the somali people were urbanised traders that lived in the coastal cities.

so basically in the end you are probably right somalis even antiquity were uncivilized and unrully badaw the way they still are today and where never formally under the rule of anyone, not even themselves.

[gurey25]

Germany only became a state in the 1800s, before then it was just a bunch of little dukedoms. The Chinese united after being fragmented for hundreds of years, The British are a union of three separate nations...the examples are endless. What Somalia needs is a strong warlike figure that will bring order to a bunch of ungrateful and unruly little skinny wildmen that are self absorbed faggots.

true but the costs are abominable, we are not unique there are dozens of historical examples that were exactly in somalis condition.
It took mass murder of holocaust proportions and tyranical rule that would have made Siad barres rule nothing but a peace loving hippie.