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*Nobleman* wrote:I mean some of it was factually incorrect, but I cannot really pin point it as I need to learn the seerah of the nabi SAW a lot better inshallah.

Its no good stating something is factually incorrect but not backing it up with providing the more coherent logical information.


Imagine going to your maths teacher and saying Sir that equation is incorrect, if he asks HOW and you say I cannot pin point it as I need to learn more maths he will seriously LAUGH at you lol

WestLdnShawty wrote:I dont even know where to start with this..
Ermm interesting yet a little contradicting at times *with some false statements*... But than again what do you expect from Islam being brought to you by the BBC.

Anyway it was pretty much what I expected... Dry iyo from a western prespective..

What is it with you guys and saying some bits are false and yet not mention exactly what is and where they got it wrong...

Asalaamu alikum all, I thought it was pretty good. Do remember this is for the wider audience, not Muslims only.

Warsan_Star_Muslimah wrote:Asalaamu alikum all, I thought it was pretty good. Do remember this is for the wider audience, not Muslims only.

So what?

Do you think we are allowed to stoop low to accommodate bigotry?

The_Patriot wrote:

Warsan_Star_Muslimah wrote:Asalaamu alikum all, I thought it was pretty good. Do remember this is for the wider audience, not Muslims only.

So what?

Do you think we are allowed to stoop low to accommodate bigotry?

Did you watch it....?


If yes... which part was it being biased or bigoted

Oxy- wrote:

The_Patriot wrote:

Warsan_Star_Muslimah wrote:Asalaamu alikum all, I thought it was pretty good. Do remember this is for the wider audience, not Muslims only.

So what?

Do you think we are allowed to stoop low to accommodate bigotry?

Did you watch it....?


If yes... which part was it being biased or bigoted

One thing it wasn't Academic more of amaturish and I dont think even a white guy making such documentary would have done it the way he did.

It did not deviant to much from the muslim traditional seerah. The only things that were off was especially during the time Arch angel Jabril came down to Nabi Muhammad scw, Rageh says "according to muslim sources, Muhammad was sleeping, when all of a sudden he felt a tightness, and then it let go.. and happened for a third time and he heard a voice saying Read", that account is incorrect because he never mentions Nabi Jibril, nabi muhammed wasn't sleeping when it occured to him, and then when he goes down to Khadija, another inaccuracy was the lack of mention of her telling him to go to her cousin Waraqa, who was a christian scholar, and familiar with the gospel, and how he told him he was the "namus" or the awaited prophet. That also brings me to another inaccuracy, which was when they described the atmosphere of his birth, how very little amount of people noticed it. It could be possible to say that, but there was definitely among the jews, and christian scholars anticipation of a coming prophet. Which explains the presence of the Jews in medina which they knew to be the place where the prophet would reside, also such companions as Salman al Farsi who migrated from persia in the hope of being with that prophet to come scw.

The_Patriot wrote:The doc is very shallow.

He doesnt mention the fact that Mecca was called Bakkah even the Quraan calls it this way.

As for the non islamic narratives Bakkah is mention in the Psalms.



Walaahi I have never heard that the prophet was rejected by his uncles when he proposed to marry one of their daughters.
this is the beginning of lies Rageh.

I mean trying to act Uncle Tom.

The first part was dealt with that christian priest who mentioned becca very quickly, saying mecca wasn't a very important city at all.

As for the second part, this is a very well known part of the early seera, where the prophet did ask to marry the daughter of Abu Talib but rejected and mentioned to him that he already promised her for so and so. You not hearing about this says more about you than Rageh. Sad mate you just shot yourself in the foot.

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I've never heard of that rejection either PO.I was just recently re-reading the seera too

seemeyer wrote:^
I've never heard of that rejection either PO.I was just recently re-reading the seera too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fakhitah_bint_Abi_Talib
But it was definetly Umm Hani bint Abi Talib
here is one link tho it doesn't show a link

Perfect_Order wrote:

seemeyer wrote:^
I've never heard of that rejection either PO.I was just recently re-reading the seera too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fakhitah_bint_Abi_Talib
But it was definetly Umm Hani bint Abi Talib
here is one link tho it doesn't show a link

dude be smart enough to give as a credible source not wiki astaghfurulah.

The_Patriot wrote:

Perfect_Order wrote:

seemeyer wrote:^
I've never heard of that rejection either PO.I was just recently re-reading the seera too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fakhitah_bint_Abi_Talib
But it was definetly Umm Hani bint Abi Talib
here is one link tho it doesn't show a link

dude be smart enough to give as a credible source not wiki astaghfurulah.

This at the very least proves that it is out there, it wasn't made up by "bbc" nor by "western orientalists", so man up and instead of dismissing it as a pure lie because You never heard of it, admit that their is a possibility.

Bring a proof or Shut up.

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You got to admit there might be a possibility sb

PO:Was it during the time when sanctions were put on his immedite family in Mecca
When all the tribes were pressuring his uncle to stop protecting him

seemeyer wrote:^
You got to admit there might be a possibility sb

PO:Was it during the time when sanctions were put on his immedite family in Mecca
When all the tribes were pressuring his uncle to stop protecting him

This was before he married Khadija, so he wasn't even 25 yet. First time I heard it was in Martin Lings biography, The Life and times of Prophet Muhammad. And that is among the top seerah's especially in english eventhough its not 100%