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Re: Muslims for Progressive Values

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:34 pm
by TheblueNwhite
accident wrote::lol: :lol: Genetic :lol: :lol:

I won't go out of my way to kill a faggot but I will not protect them or endorse their despicable actions. I don't want mountains to crush me. :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Just the other day I was standing in an intersection waiting for lights to change to cross to the other side when two faggots holding hands stood right infront of me, one was pakistani/east indian looking and his bfwas white guy. The most disgusting thing that happened was when they started to kiss, I looked away grossed out. I wasn't the only one disgusted the white guy right next to me was livid and cursed at them. They didn't give a shyte that everyone in the vicinity (99% white people) was stunned and shocked at their behavior. Well there went my day, I couldn't eat the rest of the day. That scene was disgusting and I don't want that filth in Somalia ever.

Islam and homosexual don't go in the same sentence.

Re: Muslims for Progressive Values

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:34 pm
by Beenaale_No1
abdisamad3 wrote:benaale look who made the topic before you accuse any one of forcing you to do anything,
I agree with this part Union wrote. Does make me a gaal? I DISAGREE A LOT what Union says normally, but this sounds reasonable.
union wrote:Furthermore you must accept that people have different views on matters of faith, and should be free to express themselves so long as they do it peacefully. There is no compulsion in religion, and some choose to practice a religion other than Islam or have no religion whatsoever. Freedom of speech and liberty of conscious is a fundamental human right. If someone wishes to criticize Islam, while I may not agree with their ideas I certainly agree that they have a right to freely express themselves. You discredit the erroneous ideas of other people, you don’t try to eliminate them because that will inevitably result in failure. Take for example the cartoon that was drawn of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in Denmark. What did the riots in Pakistan and Afghan achieve? They simply gave notoriety to the cartoonist and saw to it that those very cartoons became published all throughout the world. .

Re: Muslims for Progressive Values

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:36 pm
by abdisamad3
so you agree that gaalo should have the right to redicule the prophet,,subhana-laah, :down:

Re: Muslims for Progressive Values

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:39 pm
by Beenaale_No1
abdisamad3 wrote:so you agree that gaalo should have the right to redicule the prophet,,subhana-laah, :down:
In Denmark? IT IS THEIR COUNTRY.

If gaalo do that in Somalia they shall be dealt with, but in their country we cannot dictate what they can and cannot do.

Re: Muslims for Progressive Values

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:41 pm
by accident
TheblueNwhite wrote:
accident wrote::lol: :lol: Genetic :lol: :lol:

I won't go out of my way to kill a faggot but I will not protect them or endorse their despicable actions. I don't want mountains to crush me. :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Just the other day I was standing in an intersection waiting for lights to change to cross to the other side when two faggots holding hands stood right infront of me, one was pakistani/east indian looking and his bfwas white guy. The most disgusting thing that happened was when they started to kiss, I looked away grossed out. I wasn't the only one disgusted the white guy right next to me was livid and cursed at them. They didn't give a shyte that everyone in the vicinity (99% white people) was stunned and shocked at their behavior. Well there went my day, I couldn't eat the rest of the day. That scene was disgusting and I don't want that filth in Somalia ever.

Islam and homosexual don't go in the same sentence.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

My Aunts visited us from Saudi Arabia for the summer. We were walking down the road and then we saw two men kissing and holding hands. They started dissing them in Somali loudy and they were spitting on the ground. :lol:

Re: Muslims for Progressive Values

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:45 pm
by abdisamad3
Beenaale_No1 wrote:
abdisamad3 wrote:so you agree that gaalo should have the right to redicule the prophet,,subhana-laah, :down:
In Denmark? IT IS THEIR COUNTRY.

If gaalo do that in Somalia they shall be dealt with, but in their country we cannot dictate what they can and cannot do.
but they can dictate what to do in our country miyaa?
Iam not saying we should force islam on any one but if we are going to co-exist in this world we need to have mutual respect for each other,,and this is what I tell my gaalo friends, and most of them agree with me on that, :up:

Re: Muslims for Progressive Values

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:50 pm
by TheblueNwhite
accident wrote:My Aunts visited us from Saudi Arabia for the summer. We were walking down the road and then we saw two men kissing and holding hands. They started dissing them in Somali loudy and they were spitting on the ground.
I wish I never see that again. Acudu bilaahi mina sheydaani rajiim.
The east indian guy looked fresh off the boat and to everyone suprise he was the aggressive one. Nacalad baa ku taal khaniiska. :down:

Re: Muslims for Progressive Values

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:52 pm
by accident
TheblueNwhite wrote:
accident wrote:My Aunts visited us from Saudi Arabia for the summer. We were walking down the road and then we saw two men kissing and holding hands. They started dissing them in Somali loudy and they were spitting on the ground.
I wish I never see that again. Acudu bilaahi mina sheydaani rajiim.
The east indian guy looked fresh off the boat. Nacalad baa ku taal khaniiska. :down:
I know an Iranian guy who is claiming asylum here because "he is gay and they would kill him in Iran". It is fake, he is only doing it to get the passport! I don't know how they do it. Disgusting. :down:

Re: Muslims for Progressive Values

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:57 pm
by SahanGalbeed
I am a "live and let live" type of human being whose religious confession is Islam .

Re: Muslims for Progressive Values

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:01 pm
by TheblueNwhite
The fact they are allowed to adopt children in some states and countries is disturbing. While muslims are busy slaughtering each other, these faggots are multiplying in big numbers. Soon we will have a gay president. Fock that.

My cousin was telling me yesterday that she stopped watching "the good wife" after they showed 2 faggots smooching. :down:

Re: Muslims for Progressive Values

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:05 pm
by Talo alle udaa
1. Identity: We accept as Muslim anyone who identifies as such. The veracity and integrity of that claim is between the individual and God, and is not a matter for the state nor an issue which other individuals can or should judge.

2. Equality: We affirm the equal worth of all human beings, regardless of race, sex, gender, ethnicity, nationality, creed, sexual orientation, or ability. We are committed to work toward societies that ensure social, political, educational, and economic opportunities for all.

3. Separation of Religious and State Authorities: We believe that freedom of conscience is not only essential to all human societies but integral to the Qur'anic view of humanity. We believe that secular government is the only way to achieve the Islamic ideal of freedom from compulsion in matters of faith.

4. Freedom of Speech: We support freedom of expression and freedom of dissent, whether political, artistic, social or religious, even when that expression may be offensive and that dissent may be considered blasphemous. No one should be legally prosecuted, imprisoned or detained for declaring or promoting unpopular opinions.

5. Universal Human Rights: We affirm our commitment to social, economic and environmental justice. We believe that the full self-realization of all people, in a safe and sustainable world, is a prerequisite for freedom, civility, and peace. We support efforts for universal health care, universal public education, the protection of our environment, and the eradication of poverty.

6. Women’s Rights: We support women’s agency and self-determination in every aspect of their lives. We believe in women’s full participation in society at every level. We affirm our commitment to reproductive justice and empowering women to make healthy decisions regarding their bodies, sexuality and reproduction.

7. LGBTQ Rights: We endorse the human and civil rights of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, intersex, and queer (LGBTIQ) individuals. We support full equality and inclusion of all individuals, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity, in society and in the Muslim community. We affirm our commitment to ending discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity.

8. Critical Analysis and Interpretation: We call for critical engagement with Islamic scripture, traditional jurisprudence, and current Muslim discourses. We believe that critical thinking is essential to spiritual development. We promote interpretations that reflect basic Qur'anic principles of tolerance, inclusiveness, mercy, compassion, and fairness.

9. Compassion: We affirm that justice and compassion should be the guiding principles for all aspects of human conduct. We repudiate militarism and violence, whether on an individual, organizational, or national level.

10. Diversity: We embrace religious pluralism and the diversity of inspirations that motivate people to embrace social justice. We believe that one's religion is not the exclusive source of truth. As such, we will engage with a diversity of philosophical and spiritual traditions in pursuit of a more just, peaceful and sustainable world.
http://www.mpvusa.org/our_principles.html[/quote]

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Re: Muslims for Progressive Values

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:26 pm
by union
Personally I have been convinced that homosexuality is not something voluntary. Everyday you read on the news how some gay kid who has been endlessly taunted and tortured killed themselves. How can that be voluntary? Was it all some sort of act all the way to their own immature death? I still have a lingering bigotry against them myself because I don’t fully support their right to be married because I view marriage to be a human institution designed to encourage procreation and in principle homosexuals cannot procreate and I don’t think it’s right for a child to go without a mom, but I do support their right to be in their own domestic relationships and to be protected from hate like other minority groups. Morally I cannot agree that they should be persecuted for who they are, that’s not right.

Re: Muslims for Progressive Values

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:40 pm
by FAH1223
union wrote:Personally I have been convinced that homosexuality is not something voluntary. Everyday you read on the news how some gay kid who has been endlessly taunted and tortured killed themselves. How can that be voluntary? Was it all some sort of act all the way to their own immature death? I still have a lingering bigotry against them myself because I don’t fully support their right to be married because I view marriage to be a human institution designed to encourage procreation and in principle homosexuals cannot procreate and I don’t think it’s right for a child to go without a mom, but I do support their right to be in their own domestic relationships and to be protected from hate like other minority groups. Morally I cannot agree that they should be persecuted for who they are, that’s not right.
It's clearly nuture not nature.

Give me a scientific proof that says people are born Gay... there aren't any.

And if you are a believer... how could you believe Allah would create people inherently gay?

Re: Muslims for Progressive Values

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:46 pm
by Coeus
Homosexuality isnt something people choose. It is with them from a very early age. And it is mostly because of Feminist eviroment or upringing without a real father or a man in their life as they grow up. Nobody forces themselves to be gay, there are even many who hide it for fear of beign outcast in their families or being seen as unislamic, thus they force themselves to be the best muslim in the mosque etc etc. But they will always have those gay feelings.

With that said. i do not support Homosexuality in Somalia. Im pretty radical in many things (IF) it is beneficial for Society. But homosexuality isnt.

However the other aspects Union mention i support 100%. These backward losers who are talking shit like abdisamad are two faced bitches. Somalis only know 2 things Islam & Qabil.

The best shiekh in the Somali Mosque is either Qabilist, or is active in some way in Qabil activities.

There was a somali sheikh who led a Somali Mosque in my old hometown, he was doing the 5 salats in theMosque. The guy was from Waqooyi like me. He was a fierce Somaliland supporter, yet a well known shiekh aroudn Sweden because he also went on Tabliq travels.

He hated reunification with southerners even when they are muslim & Somali like him. Yet he had the f-king audacity to preach about Palestine &Iraq & Afghanistan under occupation of Gaalo. Just because hes fellow arab shieks were sitting next to him.

The older Somali generation are failures,lowlive scum who carry the mentality of a sheep with an arab herder. They dont know jack shit, they only know Hebel iyo hebel, but they fail at Education,Assimilation,Community building and every f-king other important aspect of what it means to be PRODUCTIVE & USEFUL.

Whenever they want to sway youth from drugs, they talk about prophets or a quran verse, like the children will f-king identify with a quran verse when they are killing eachother on the street,chewing khat, doing drugs.

Asomali shiekh will preach in the friday prayer about Gaalo this and gaalo that and at the end of the Month he will ask you to help him translate for him so that he can get his welfare money from the social office.

Fuck these losers that are against Reform,Secularism,development. They are bunch of backward qabil infested losers that want to dictate the broad minded younger generation. They have failed & they are now trying to take you down with them.

I end my rant now, before i f-king burst a bicep.

Re: Muslims for Progressive Values

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:51 pm
by Beenaale_No1
SahanGalbeed wrote:I am a "live and let live" type of human being whose religious confession is Islam .
:up: :up: :up: