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Based wrote:I'm a Fascist at heart.
Our program is simple: we wish to govern Somalia. They ask us for programs but there are already too many. It is not programs that are wanting for the salvation of Somalia but men and will power.
ilaahow kaago kale inama hoos dhigo
Nacam.grandpakhalif wrote:How can you claim to be an 'islamist' party when you're contradicting the very fundamentals of Islam? Islam drafts its rules and Laws from the Quran and Sunnah, whilst the AKP and Enahdaa, are forced to use man-made constitutions which super-cede the Quran and Sunnah. They only use the religion as a leeway to enter into power and to appease the disgruntled muslims, its just petty lip service.Jaidi wrote:If Somalinet had an election, union would run on a coalition platform with Grandpa opposing whoever is the AKP equivalent
It's shocking that he is consulting with grandpa to solidfy his own political understandings. It seems he has more in common with him than he realizes
union wrote:Nacam.grandpakhalif wrote:How can you claim to be an 'islamist' party when you're contradicting the very fundamentals of Islam? Islam drafts its rules and Laws from the Quran and Sunnah, whilst the AKP and Enahdaa, are forced to use man-made constitutions which super-cede the Quran and Sunnah. They only use the religion as a leeway to enter into power and to appease the disgruntled muslims, its just petty lip service.Jaidi wrote:If Somalinet had an election, union would run on a coalition platform with Grandpa opposing whoever is the AKP equivalent
It's shocking that he is consulting with grandpa to solidfy his own political understandings. It seems he has more in common with him than he realizes
True Muslims should never vote for Enahdaa.
True Muslims should never vote, period!
I hope the Islamist Tunisians will realize that come next election season....
HILARIOUS
Where's the Islam in those "Islamists?" Seems to me, anyone can be called an Islamist nowadays. Rached Ghannouchi is a murtad and the new government is far from Islamic, and is still a secular taghoot regime, ruling by man made law while ignoring the commandments of Allah. May it fall.
That is still voting. Call it shura,democracy whatever.grandpakhalif wrote:FAH, don't mistaken choosing a competent leader among a knowledgeable council(, whose goal is bring God's law reign supreme, to a bunch of ignorant laymen choosing leaders based on their own whims and desires. The former is perfectly acceptable and was practiced by our predecessors while the latter is a concept completely contradictory to Islam.
But I would not expect an active participant and ardent supporter of the US government to understand these key differences.
More like a closed democracy.Saraxnow wrote:That is still voting. Call it shura,democracy whatever.grandpakhalif wrote:FAH, don't mistaken choosing a competent leader among a knowledgeable council(, whose goal is bring God's law reign supreme, to a bunch of ignorant laymen choosing leaders based on their own whims and desires. The former is perfectly acceptable and was practiced by our predecessors while the latter is a concept completely contradictory to Islam.
But I would not expect an active participant and ardent supporter of the US government to understand these key differences.
yes shura is correct, but it is not the same as democracy, that requires a man-made constitution, elected representitives (instead of one amiir) etc.Saraxnow wrote:That is still voting. Call it shura,democracy whatever.grandpakhalif wrote:FAH, don't mistaken choosing a competent leader among a knowledgeable council(, whose goal is bring God's law reign supreme, to a bunch of ignorant laymen choosing leaders based on their own whims and desires. The former is perfectly acceptable and was practiced by our predecessors while the latter is a concept completely contradictory to Islam.
But I would not expect an active participant and ardent supporter of the US government to understand these key differences.
The basic concept of people choosing their leaders or having representatives choose them is not alien to Islam and is in fact part and parcel of its history
amazing how these two mentalities shown by union and grandpa is the reason why the muslim world is the way it is
Indeed. If we let Union have it benevolent securalist dictators like the Assad family and Hosni Mubarak would rule until time immemorial 
@ union getting his political views from the islamicawakening forum They have nutty people there,always angry 