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Re: Ethiopia and Somali conflicts of war

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I think you mistunderstand my use of "weak" it wasn't a reference to Belews as a people but regarding the connection between them and Ahmed the Conqueror, which can't be compared to his concrete link with the Somalis, that scholars from Ethiopia are trying so hard to deny. The fairy tale about North Somalia being under Belew rule is like the tales about an Ethiopian Queen being impregnated by King Solomon. Not a single stelea, not a single Belew coin or ruins have been found in Somalia. The Bejas/Belews ended the Axumites yes, but they did not even reach Djibouti let alone any part of Somalia.

Respect to your people though, didn't ment to offend.
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Re: Ethiopia and Somali conflicts of war

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Who is the wilwaal guy?
who are the Bartires? are they lost tribes?I dont hear much about them?
Lately I heard Geri Koombe was in bombastic mood... they had a tiny administration of their own called Tulu Guleed...
making all that propaganda and ending up with Tullu Guuled :?

Voltage, your new nick suits u :up:

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Re: Ethiopia and Somali conflicts of war

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bareento wrote:Who is the wilwaal guy?
who are the Bartires? are they lost tribes?I dont hear much about them?
Lately I heard Geri Koombe was in bombastic mood... they had a tiny administration of their own called Tulu Guleed...
making all that propaganda and ending up with Tullu Guuled :?

Voltage, your new nick suits u :up:
:lol:
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:lol: they are branch of absame.,, wiiwaals real name was garaad xirsi
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Re: Ethiopia and Somali conflicts of war

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HippoTT wrote:I think you mistunderstand my use of "weak" it wasn't a reference to Belews as a people but regarding the connection between them and Ahmed the Conqueror, which can't be compared to his concrete link with the Somalis, that scholars from Ethiopia are trying so hard to deny. The fairy tale about North Somalia being under Belew rule is like the tales about an Ethiopian Queen being impregnated by King Solomon. Not a single stelea, not a single Belew coin or ruins have been found in Somalia. The Bejas/Belews ended the Axumites yes, but they did not even reach Djibouti let alone any part of Somalia.

Respect to your people though, didn't ment to offend.
This is not a scholar from Ethiopia who is claiming Ahmed gragn to be belew, this is also the understanding of many people who lives along the coast of the red sea + many arabic Writers. Belew kelew was a very large tribe and came in many waves for the last 4000 years to Eritrea, Just like Somali living abroad not everyone migrated at the same time, There is no fairytale about belew controlling North somalia if you look at the arabic artifact it would tell you that the sea king controlled all area's till what is today north somalia, The reason Not a single artifact is discovered in north somalia is because during the axumite period and after the whole rule was a republican kind of rule where many kingdoms and provinces ruled themselves under an alliance/conferdiancy so it means you controll your area pay a small fee's and when there is a war everyone to arms, No Lie about it D'mt was known to its population land of the agazyans and build by the belew kelew in 1000 b.c- 2000 b.c. The latest belew wave came 1200-1300 years ago and the fall of axum was due not only to the belew but more because the afars complained to the sea king who controlled 4 Kingdoms (Midri bahri, belzin, adulite, Djinn) about the incursion and land theft/ harrasment by the habesh from ethiopia, so he went to war with them and axum broke up while the 4 Kingdoms continued and created the beja confiderncy, since all the power/trade/army was from those 4 kingdoms ethiopia went to a dark ages that lasted 500 years while this period is known to be Eritrea's Golden Age, trade and arts and military power was increasing, soo much peace that they managed to have time to create a new language (Tigrigna).

At their peak their army reached 200,000-300,000. Please don't Compare us to oromo i have respect for them but the history is different, Dude one more thing djbouti is afar land somali only came there 100 years ago because of the french, 1000 years ago there was no somali any where near djbouti, The issa were deep inside Ethiopia where ogaden is, North somalia and djbouti pre 1000 year history is all afar including the paintings that is also in central eritrea its because all this was afar land,all Eritrea + Djbouti + north somaliland was afarland 3000 years ago, who do you think are the Punt people? their capital was qohioto in central Eritrea. One last thing there is no artifacts in North somali pre-dating 1500 years ago from any one, the area was more or less Empty the somali population especailly the "dirr" was Inland due to their pastorial lifestyle.

-First It was Punt: Afar + saho. (Pre-1000-1500 b.c)
-Then Came the Agazians belew and Continued with D'mt.(1000 B.c-200 ad)
-Then a union happened 4 Kingdoms In eritrea (Beja + Tigre/Tigrigna(agazians) + saho + afars) and 1 kingdom North Ethiopia (Habesh)= axumite . The 4 kingdoms Reported to the Sea king that is the reason it broke up the adulite King complained to the sea king of the habesh land theft and looting in afarland and after that the seaking went to war with habesh and no more axum. ( 200 ad-800ad)
-Then The 4 kingdoms Booted the habesh out and created the beja confiderncy. (800 ad-1500ad)
-Then the habesh Invaded after the defeat of ahmed gragn (1500-1892)
-then the eritreans was colonised by the Italian and then the british to try to stop the habesh Invasion. (1892-1952)
-Then Eritrea was given to Ethiopia by america and the west (1962-1991)
-Again Eritrea is free and hoping to resurrect the golden Times of the beja confiderncy days (1991-present) But as always Ethiopian Habesh Can't Let go.

Let me ask you one question, Where did ahmed gragn grandfather came from?????? Al ghazi is a clan name and no way that is somali. While in belew there is a lineage of alghazi in there.
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Re: Ethiopia and Somali conflicts of war

Post by Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE »

union wrote:
OliveOil wrote:
union wrote:Ethiopia has always been far ahead of Somalia in historical and political importance. Only twice did Somalia threaten Ethiopia's preeminence in the Horn of Africa, and both times Marehan lead the way under the banner of somalinimo.
Why the fuck u gotta inject qabiil into this??? Shit foqol shit :evil:
I don’t suffer from ‘Marehan guilt’ unlike some of you.
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Welcome back cuz :mrgreen:
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