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I am making a FATWA: SLAVERY IS A FORBIDDEN IMMORAL DANGEROUS BACKWARD AND BARBARIC PRACTICE :up:
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gedo_gurl wrote:Walaalo, JazakaAllah khair, but that shouldve been for GrandpaKhalif. I know, and have said this is wrong. AlxamduliAllah. Sorry if my joke, which was directed at people who assumed slavery was promoted by Islam, made you think otherwise. Great info though, qeyr Allah ha ku siiyo!

gedo actually it was Iron sheikh who were promoting slavery because he said top 60 major sins(danbi) that person can commit infront of Allah
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The Major Sins
--Al-Kaba'r--
)

01. Associating anything with Allah
02. Murder
03. Practising magic
04. Not Praying
05. Not paying Zakat
06. Not fasting on a Day of Ramadan without excuse
07. Not performing Hajj, while being able to do so
08. Disrespect to parents
09. Abandoning relatives
10. Fornication and Adultery
11. Homosexuality(sodomy)
12. Interest(Riba)
13. Wrongfully consuming the property of an orphan
14. Lying about Allah and His Messenger
15. Running away from the battlefield
16. A leader's deceiving his people and being unjust to them
17. Pride and arrogance
18. Bearing false witness
19. Drinking Khamr (wine)
20. Gambling
31.
54. Offending people and having an arrogant attitude toward them
55. Trailing one's garment in pride
56. Men's wearing silk and gold
57. A slave's running away from his master
58. Slaughtering an animal which has been dedicated to anyone other than Allah
59. To knowingly ascribe one's paternity to a father other than one's own

Iron sheikh believe if a slave person runs away from hes master. not the master but the MISKIIIN SLAVE is commiting sin.
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union wrote:I am making a FATWA: SLAVERY IS A FORBIDDEN IMMORAL DANGEROUS BACKWARD AND BARBARIC PRACTICE :up:
ayatullah UNION I accept your Fatwa :up: :up: aamiin
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DR-YALAXOOW wrote:
gedo_gurl wrote:Walaalo, JazakaAllah khair, but that shouldve been for GrandpaKhalif. I know, and have said this is wrong. AlxamduliAllah. Sorry if my joke, which was directed at people who assumed slavery was promoted by Islam, made you think otherwise. Great info though, qeyr Allah ha ku siiyo!

gedo actually it was Iron sheikh who were promoting slavery because he said top 60 major sins(danbi) that person can commit infront of Allah
IronSheik wrote:
The Major Sins
--Al-Kaba'r--
)

01. Associating anything with Allah
02. Murder
03. Practising magic
04. Not Praying
05. Not paying Zakat
06. Not fasting on a Day of Ramadan without excuse
07. Not performing Hajj, while being able to do so
08. Disrespect to parents
09. Abandoning relatives
10. Fornication and Adultery
11. Homosexuality(sodomy)
12. Interest(Riba)
13. Wrongfully consuming the property of an orphan
14. Lying about Allah and His Messenger
15. Running away from the battlefield
16. A leader's deceiving his people and being unjust to them
17. Pride and arrogance
18. Bearing false witness
19. Drinking Khamr (wine)
20. Gambling
31.
54. Offending people and having an arrogant attitude toward them
55. Trailing one's garment in pride
56. Men's wearing silk and gold
57. A slave's running away from his master
58. Slaughtering an animal which has been dedicated to anyone other than Allah
59. To knowingly ascribe one's paternity to a father other than one's own

Iron sheikh believe if a slave person runs away from hes master. not the master but the MISKIIIN SLAVE is commiting sin.
It's funny because I don't even see "rape" on that list but a slave running away from their master is on :down:
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union wrote:I am making a FATWA: SLAVERY IS A FORBIDDEN IMMORAL DANGEROUS BACKWARD AND BARBARIC PRACTICE :up:


Any decent human being knows that, i hope Mr grampa was kidding
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Aemon85 wrote:
union wrote:I am making a FATWA: SLAVERY IS A FORBIDDEN IMMORAL DANGEROUS BACKWARD AND BARBARIC PRACTICE :up:


Any decent human being knows that, i hope Mr grampa was kidding
I don't know if he was or not, but I posted my short concise fatwa after IronShiek posted an entire essay length fatwa that was not unequivocal in denouncing slavery.
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That list is from Abdallah ibn Abbas (radillahu canhu) the Nephew of the Prophet of God, Dr.Yalaxow you know better than him :shock:
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:lol: Just to clear something, if we take a war on the UK and collect female slaves, i call dibs on Cheryl Cole :lol: :up:
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union wrote:
Aemon85 wrote:
union wrote:I am making a FATWA: SLAVERY IS A FORBIDDEN IMMORAL DANGEROUS BACKWARD AND BARBARIC PRACTICE :up:


Any decent human being knows that, i hope Mr grampa was kidding
I don't know if he was or not, but I posted my short concise fatwa after IronShiek posted an entire essay length fatwa that was not unequivocal in denouncing slavery.
Did you read up on the whole post :clap:
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grandpakhalif wrote:That list is from Abdallah ibn Abbas (radillahu canhu) the Nephew of the Prophet of God, Dr.Yalaxow you know better than him :shock:

How do you know?
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grandpakhalif wrote:That list is from Abdallah ibn Abbas (radillahu canhu) the Nephew of the Prophet of God, Dr.Yalaxow you know better than him :shock:
yes AUN. but prophets nephew or prophets scw father or any other of hes prophets close family was not prophets themselfs. they were just humanbiengs. so their fatwas is not the quran( word of god)
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Allahu A'lam الله أعلم. I am not a scholar and I don't claim to be one, it comes from the book of hadiths called: Riyad as-Salihin (The Meadows of the Righteous)
by Yahiya ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi

It is
349. Chapter: On the strong prohibition against a slave running away from his master

1768. Jarir ibn 'Abdullah reported that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Whenever a slave runs away, protection is removed from him." [Muslim]

1769. Jarir reported that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "When a slave runs away, his prayer is not accepted from him." [Muslim]

In one variant, "He has disbelieved."
It is also said been said that:
Almost all of the hadith in Riyadh as-Saaliheen are authentic, it contains mostly strong hadith and is well regarded by the scholars of hadith.
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Dr. Yalaxow the Messenger of Allah said:
"When a slave runs away, his prayer is not accepted from him." [Muslim]
Are you gonna say he is wrong too?
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IronSheik wrote:Allahu A'lam الله أعلم. I am not a scholar and I don't claim to be one, it comes from the book of hadiths called: Riyad as-Salihin (The Meadows of the Righteous)
by Yahiya ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi

It is
349. Chapter: On the strong prohibition against a slave running away from his master

1768. Jarir ibn 'Abdullah reported that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Whenever a slave runs away, protection is removed from him." [Muslim]

1769. Jarir reported that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "When a slave runs away, his prayer is not accepted from him." [Muslim]

In one variant, "He has disbelieved."
It is also said been said that:
Almost all of the hadith in Riyadh as-Saaliheen are authentic, it contains mostly strong hadith and is well regarded by the scholars of hadith.
That hadith is a load of bullshit. :up:

As a matter of fact slavery is a major SHIRK because you are taking a human as your master instead of GOD.
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majorty of hadiith was collected 250 years after prophets sc past away only bukhaari collected 300 000 hadiiths which he thrown away all of them except 1500 hadiiths only. so that hadiith which says if slave run away from hes master is comming sin probably is fake hadiith.
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