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Colonel wrote:

grandpakhalif wrote:Greenday is saying that the Al shabab are fighting a Muslim government thus their suicide bombing is fitnah while Palestinians are on the brink of desperation and resort to martyrdom operations. God is most merciful and surely would not look at them in disdain and condemn to hellfire.

The internationally recognised government of Palestine is Fatah lead by Mahmud Abbas. Fatah has stopped fighting Israel a long time ago and even works with then at times, surely that would mean that Hamas must lay down their weapons and obey the Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas?

Also what do you think of the ongoing war in Chechnya?

@people who choose which war is jihad and which is 'xaram' while the situation is pretty much the same.

Abbas only controls West bank you fool, im talking about Gaza which is controlled By hamas.

greenday wrote:How can their reason be right? to think they are in the right makes the insane.

no it doesn't, they're trying to blow up their enemies, how on earth does that make them insane? Would they be insane, if they had an airplane and tried to bomb Abdiweli that way?

Shirib wrote:

greenday wrote:How can their reason be right? to think they are in the right makes the insane.

no it doesn't, they're trying to blow up their enemies, how on earth does that make them insane? Would they be insane, if they had an airplane and tried to bomb Abdiweli that way?

They know 100% they will die its not like shooting someone from far

I really feel bad for the young people who are brainwashed by Al-shabab and any warlord; they are not really to blame. And I it's not right of any of you to wish them hellfire for all we know they can be mentally unstable being born in war zone and constantly being at war and they are probably being forced to be there.

You shouldn't blame Al-shabab they wouldn't be there if they where not needed

greenday wrote:

Shirib wrote:

greenday wrote:How can their reason be right? to think they are in the right makes the insane.

no it doesn't, they're trying to blow up their enemies, how on earth does that make them insane? Would they be insane, if they had an airplane and tried to bomb Abdiweli that way?

They know 100% they will die its not like shooting someone from far

so where is the insanity part, suicide is not the insane part, and trying to kill their enemies is not insane, what part is insane here?

grandpakhalif wrote:

Colonel wrote:

grandpakhalif wrote:Greenday is saying that the Al shabab are fighting a Muslim government thus their suicide bombing is fitnah while Palestinians are on the brink of desperation and resort to martyrdom operations. God is most merciful and surely would not look at them in disdain and condemn to hellfire.

The internationally recognised government of Palestine is Fatah lead by Mahmud Abbas. Fatah has stopped fighting Israel a long time ago and even works with then at times, surely that would mean that Hamas must lay down their weapons and obey the Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas?

Also what do you think of the ongoing war in Chechnya?

@people who choose which war is jihad and which is 'xaram' while the situation is pretty much the same.

Abbas only controls West bank you fool, im talking about Gaza which is controlled By hamas.

TFG only controls 10% of South Somalia, actually scratch that...AMISOM, Ethiopia and Kenya control those territories while AS controls most of the South so what is your point 'abid?

As far as I am aware Hamas and Fatah are currently not in a war.

Shirib
War thinking your reasons are right when they clearly are not makes you insane if you are fine you can think rationally if not you think there is a holly war in Somalia when there is none.

greenday wrote:Shirib
War thinking your reasons are right when they clearly are not makes you insane if you are fine you can think rationally if not you think there is a holly war in Somalia when there is none.

they are earely similar, u can make a lot of reasons, especially when Ethiopians were there. So their logic is not all that insane.

grandpakhalif wrote:As far as I am aware Hamas and Fatah are currently not in a war.

It doesn't matter since according to your own words the leader should be followed, even tho Hamas won the elections the World has for some reason decided to recognise Fatah's Mahmud Abbas as the representative of the Palestinian people. Now if Mahmud Abbas does not fight Israel anymire and at times coordinates with them then Hamas should not attack Israel, especially with suicide bombings.

In 1 case it's legitimate jihad but in the order it's khawarij dogs of hellfire

Shirib if they were sane and the reason was Ethiopia dont you think they would stop when they left?

You are very unaware of Palestinian politics, Hamas controls it's own land and has its own president it doesn' t have to follow some president on the other side. If Hamas leader says jihad then jihad is okay, if he says peace then you have to be peaceful.

Same with abbas in Westbank

grandpakhalif wrote: You are very unaware of Palestinian politics, Hamas controls it's own land and has its own president it doesn' t have to follow some president on the other side. If Hamas leader says jihad then jihad is okay, if he says peace then you have to be peaceful.

Same with abbas in Westbank

The point i'm trying to make is that the Fatah president was elected by the West, TFG is also a creation of the West.
Hamas controls the Gaza Strip, Alshabab controls most of South Somalia.

Alshabab and TFG are enemies just like Hamas and Fatah are enemies so why is it Ok to have 2 presidents in Palestine but in Somalia only the TFG is legitimate?

greenday,

If they are insane for fighting in the war with suicide bombings, but are not insane when the war was done, why would they be insane when the war is still going on? The suicide makes them insane, not the war, so they shouldn't be insane after the bomb. If the bomb is in the war while they're still fighting, then they have to be insane, otherwise, why would they be fighting a bomb?

Alpha, there has never been a war where you can justify suicide in Somalia.