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insight, bro the city will be shared and no one clan has ever ruled the city exclusively don't listen to these kids. Sade will get their share of representation in Kismayo just like all the major clans in the city. The people have to compromise and what's the point when they're not even working together to form a maamul.

Btw, are the OGs looking to include Gedo in Azania?

Awe wrote:insight, bro the city will be shared and no one clan has ever ruled the city exclusively don't listen to these kids. Sade will get their share of representation in Kismayo just like all the major clans in the city. The people have to compromise and what's the point when they're not even working together to form a maamul.

Btw, are the OGs looking to include Gedo in Azania?

It will depend on Kismayo and who gets it. If OG get Kismayo, they are likely not to. I honestly have no idea, and so do the OG kids on SomaliNet neither. We will see in the next few weeks. People are waiting on Ethiopia's move as they don't want Ogaden to manage a lucrative city like Kismayo, for obvious reasons of course.

Creating a maamul without Gedo would seal the deal for caghdeers since our ilkayar friends only live in Kismayo.

Awe wrote:Creating a maamul without Gedo would seal the deal for caghdeers since our ilkayar friends only live in Kismayo.

It's what we are hoping for.

Awe,


Sade was the only clan in the cities history to ever rule the city as a clan. From '07-08 over a year it was ruled by Guddiga Siyaasada Beesha Sade by guys like taano and raadeer. No gimmick urur names or 'political groups' simply a clan saying we own Somalias 3rd most important town. Teeda kale, tell Me if MR were nothing there without Cayr why couldn't the big, bad kablalax do anything with Sade in Kismayo in '07 when You had the Presidency, a puppet pm gheedi who called the MR there 'terrorists' in your pocket, Puntland, etc.? Why were the Harti (Afgaduud) Absame (Koojar) militias routed so bad since our Cayr protectors wern't there? So what Cayr were in Kismaayo so was a lot of other clans. Unless You are counting challenged You can see who dominates the list:



Jubba Valley Alliance

1.Gudoonka sare
2. Golaha Hogaaminta
3. Taliska Ciidamada
4. Maamulka Degmada.
5. Guddiga samafalka
6. Maamulka Dekada




1.Gudoonka Sare.

Waxaa uu ka kooban yahay afar xubnood waa ragga ugu sareeya Dhinaca fulinta ee isbahaysiga dooxada jubba, ka sokow Talada hogaaminta waxaa ay leeyihiin Go,aanada rasmiga ah ee Isbahaysiga dooxada jubba, inkastoo maanta aysan muuqan in ragoo dhan ay kuwada shaqayn hadana nin kasta waxaa uu leeyahay Shaqo u gaar ah oo lagu qadariyo.

a)Col: Barre Aaden Shire (Hiiraale) Gudoomiye= Mareexaan/Reer Diini/Reer Kooshin
b)Yuusuf Mire Maxamuud ( seeraar) Gudoomiye ku xigeenka Dhaqaalaha= Cayr/ Yabar dhawrlakace
c)C/raxmaan xaaji Axmed( waldiire)Gudoomiye ku xigeenka Arimaha bulshada= Ogaadeen/reer Cabdille.
d)Cabdi Maxamed Maxamuud( Yeey) Gudoomiye ku xigeenka arimaha Ciidamada= Harti/ Dhulbahante


2. Golaha Hogaaminta.

Golahaan waa kullanka talada isbahaysiga dooxada jubba iyo Barta laga hogaamiyo siyaasada isbahaysiga dooxada jubba, Xubnaha gudoonka sare waxaa ay golaha hogaaminta uga warbixiyaan waxqabadkooda iyo waxyaabha horyaala isbahaysiga. Tira ahaan golahaan waxaa uu hada gaarayaa 40 xubnood. Maalin kastana waa uu sii kordhayaa ragga ku jirana waxaa ay u badan yihiin kuwa beelaha Hogaamiya ee Hadana aan ka marnayn arimaha maleeshiyada.


Golaha hogaaminta ee isbahaysiga dooxada jubba waxaa uu leeyahay guddiyo qaabilsan arimaha deg deg ah ee ka bata Gudoonka sare ee Isbahaysiga dooxada jubba dad badan ayaase ku taama in loo badalo gole sharci dajin lana kordhiyo tiradiisa iyo tayadiisa.


Golaha hogaaminta waxaa uu u dhisan yahay sidatan.
a)Generaal Axmed Warsame Maxamed Gudoomiye = Mareexaan/ Celi
b)Col: Barre Aaden shire( Hiraale) Gudoomiye ku xigeenka 1aad Mareexaan/ Reer Diini/koshin
c)Bille Cabdulle Cabdi, Gudoomiye Ku xigeenka 2aad= Mareexaan/ Reer Xasan
d)Col: Aaden Maxamed wacays( Koronto)- Gudoomiyaha Guddiga Difaaca= Mareexaan/ wagardhac/Cumardheer.
e)Yaasiin Nuur Gaas( indhoraadeer)-Gudoomoyaha Guddiga dhaqaalaha= Mareexaan/ Reer Diini/ Reer Dalal.
f)Xareed Cali durdur Gudoomiyaha guddiga Siyaasada= Mareexaan/ Reer Xasan
g)Deeq Caabi Xasan xoghayaha guud ee Golaha Hogaaminta= Mareexaan/erer Diini/Reer dalal


3.Taliska Ciidamada isbahaysiga dooxada jubba

Taliska Ciidamada isbahaysiga dooxada jubba waxaa uu soo maray isbadaloo kala duwan oo waafaqsan isbadalada habka jabhadeed ee isbahaysiga dooxada jubba Maanta saraakiisha taliska ama ragga ugu sareeya waa sidatan

a)Maxamed Rooble Jimcaale( goobaale) taliyaha Ciidamada= Cayr/ cabsiiye/ Xasan leey
b) C/laahi sheikh ismaacil( fartaag) Abaanduulaha Ciidamada= Mareexaan/ Reer Diini/ Reer Ugas sharmarke.
c)Col: Ismaaciil Khaliif shire Taliyaha Ciidamada Badda= Mareexaan/ Reer Diini/ Reer Siyaad.
d)C/laahi M Maxamed-Aar( Fanax) Taliyaha Ciidamada Ammaanka= Mareexaan/Reer Diini/Reer siyaad.
e)Cabaas Ibraahim Gureey Taliyaha Ciidanka garoonka= Mareexaan Talxe
f)Maxamed Cadow Cali( sanka) afhayenka Ciidamada= Mareexaan/ Reer Diini/ Reer Ugas Sharmarke
Taliska Ciidamada waxaa kale oo uu leeyahay taliyeyaasha Guutooyinka iyo kuwa talisyada.





This was filmed in Jubbada Hoose outside Kismaayo, includes interviews with many MR personalities. How many times is 'SNF' mentioned?

As for Cayr they may be some big bogeyman to You but not to me. Marexaan Mudug have lived next to them for centuries so it makes sense some the marexaans of mudug will parlay with them if there is a mutal benefit. Marexaans made a lot of money in suuq bakaaro in the '2000s and made bases there to the point they became a group in the city. If Yall were so mighty why cower and tremble because of ONE subclan of HG and kick Sade and Cayr's ass? The US ambassador to Kenya being schooled on How shit worked in Somalia and the reality of the Marehan/Cayr relationship:



DAS Yamamoto sought and
obtained President Guelleh's agreement to approach the Ayr
clan in Somalia with a view toward tamping down the
violence there and facilitating the reconciliation
process.Guelleh cautioned, however, that the Ayr had very
little real influence in Somalia, and derived much of its
authority from its affiliation with the Marehan. Guelleh
described Somalia as both complicated and simple, and the
warlords as "dangerous." He also said the warlords will
never accept a central government.




Guelleh responded that in his view, the Ayr do not
have much influence. They originate
from the poorest and most desolate region of Somalia and
derive much of their authority from their affiliation with
the Marehan. When Said Barre's regime collapsed, he
continued, the Ayr were targeted by the Hawiye and kept a
low profile. After Abdiqasim came to power, the Ayr
re-emerged and many became businessmen. Guelleh stated
that some Ayr are Islamists, such as Dahir Aweys, the head
of Al-Ittihad. Yet without the Marehan, the Ayr are
nothing and remain close to them. Still, Guelleh said, he
would be willing "to send some messages to them."


http://cables.mrkva.eu/cable.php?id=59691

In hindsight I can see why it is hard for You guys to admit facts, no matter whats brought to the table. Hence why I don't debate on snet anymore. Believe what You wanna believe

War waxaan waa dugaag, yuu is moodey, "we ruled the city for a few months in 07".

This isnt about ruling anything in the past. Look at islam it ruled the world once and look where we are today. rome once ruled the world but it no longer does. If you think a few months of power you held with the help of hawiye will give control of the city then you are gravely mistaken. Wait and see what happens is all i can say to you. I hope ghaandi is thinking of conquering beyond the boarders of kismaayo. gedo should also be on the list. Total ilkoyar enslavement.

First time I've been threatened by a homeless fella

These qaxooti's never cease to amaze me. When you read all these, "We will capture so and so city", "We will control & remove everyone else from such and such city", "We we we" all that comes to mind is, are these kids on the ground & taking part in the wars?

No wonder we're failures and our land taken over by foreigners. NacalatuLaah calal Jahl!

Twist wrote:These qaxooti's never cease to amaze me. When you read all these, "We will capture so and so city", "We will control & remove everyone else from such and such city", "We we we" all that comes to mind is, are these kids on the ground & taking part in the wars?

No wonder we're failures and our land taken over by foreigners. NacalatuLaah calal Jahl!

Why cant the city be shared by different sub clans peacefully?

CismanMaxamud1 wrote:

Twist wrote:These qaxooti's never cease to amaze me. When you read all these, "We will capture so and so city", "We will control & remove everyone else from such and such city", "We we we" all that comes to mind is, are these kids on the ground & taking part in the wars?

No wonder we're failures and our land taken over by foreigners. NacalatuLaah calal Jahl!

Why cant the city be shared by different sub clans peacefully?

The back stabbing sons of Qaxootis were tested in the past when they were incorporated in to (MOD). They ended up biting the hand that fed them, so why seek an alliance when you know their tendencies? Who in their right mind would ally themselves with backstabbing knifing bunch who will bend over to their foes? They did it to their son (sayidka) may he rest in peace and to the entire tribe they hail from during the civil war.

I call upon the people of Absame to stop discussing with delusional kids on this board, let them insult us as much as they want or make up fictional hollywood scenarios but the truth is we know who's in Afmadow and who's stuck in Gedo.

Ilaahey ka yaabo waxan eega

I wasn in that area few years ago, and I remember I walked past a cemetary ( kind of cememtary) in the middle of the houses. I was told that all those buried there were young men of both sides ( I think Marehan and MJs). They were just buried just the place they were fallen. I counted 14 graves.

Walahi, everyday one the phone rung in early morning my heart beats. waxan is idhaa tolow maxaa laguu sheegi doonaa. Just as I lost cousins in Afmadow and Kismayo not lond ago. The worse thing for me would be I have to worry the casualty of both sides.

Allow yaa meel ku wada xidha GP and Meta both are bad as each other.

Zingi you sound confused. what did you want cumar jees to do when the rest of darood conspired to kick out ogaden out of the newly captured city of kismaayo. This is what happened let me school you so that you dont, like an aimless archee, throw around stories you know very little about. in 1991 hawiye captured kismaayo from darood. Darood were chased out on the lower jubba. Mainly in afmadoow and dhoobleey. all the leaders including jees, morgan, gabyoow and many othera met up and dhoobleey. They planned and regrouped there under the leadership of morgan and gabyoow. After four months they came back and attacked kismaayo. Having successfully chased out the usc the new worry amongst the mjs ogs and mrs who would take control of the city. mjs and mrs met in the background and conspired to chase ogadens out. Thats when omar jees switched allies. It was a political move and a great one at that. are you still eith me? Lets recap.... The troops met in dhoobleey which is ogaden city. Most of the fighters were ogaden. We captured the city and then you silly fishes tried to get rid of us. So really did you want omar jees to defend daroodnimo when the rest of darood has kicked his clan members to the curb? ironic how when jees sided with aydiid he was stabbing the rest of darood in the back yet when you along with other daroods conspired to kick out the same men who provided the place of the invasion planning, who died for the city is not stabbing darood in the back? Shut the fuck you hypocrite bunches. point number general gabyoow was responsible for more than half of the victories that darood acquired. Who was he? Was he ilkoyar? Ogaden did more somalia and kismayo than you boons ever will. You have come to the picture with siyaad and after his demise you have been reduced to the slave status insignificant boon you were before him. Consider yourself educated and next time you utter bullshit maybe you should think of it.