Re: Cruel Saudi gov at it again!Shocking video of detention
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:03 pm
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Shirib wrote:No they aren't.*Nobleman* wrote:Shirib wrote:oh and btw, Saudi government are a bunch of assholes. May the House of Saud fall. Aamiin dhaha waryaada
Bro i'd rather take the current Saudi monarchy then anything on offer in Somalia. I mean sure they are far from perfect, laakin at least they are good for their population.
The house of Saud must go, we're not gonna see a real revolution, till the House of Saud collapses.
comparing a 3rd world country like Somalia to a country that has the largest reserve of the most traded commodity on earth is not only unfair it's heading towards lunacy.
You never cease to amaze me loool. Your basically using the supposed plight of others to further your anti arab agenda. Get a grip, Saudi Arabia is far from a perfect state, yes they make mistakes, yes they are human. Why don't you post a thread about the human rights abuses committed by Somalis on Somalis? let me guess this doesnt fit your anti arab agendaEnlightened~Sista wrote:*Nobleman* wrote:Walahi I just seenEnlightened~Sista wrote:I'm in contact with the guys in the video, one of them is very sick. InshaAllah u so duceeya., shoddy journalism at best. Laakin this comment you made above is a classic
, in all honesty saxib, get a life, this cuqdad is just ridiculous now
You saw...and all you could afford your fellow Muslim suffering brothers is a few laughs?? laughing at their plight? Xitaa ducadda waad ka bakheelinaysaa subhanallah. I hope you find yourself one of these days in a situation WORSE than the one they're currently in ameen ya rabb!
Just in case you did not realise this is a public forum, where public opinions are expressed. If you don't like my comments you have one of three options:Enlightened~Sista wrote:Shirib please delete Nobleman and Grandpakhaleef's posts in this thread. All of it, my replies to them, yours ..anybodys. They are not interested in contributing to the topic at hand..just settling some old scores. I don't want these two and Advo replying to any topic of mine from now on.
Cause it's a terrible monarchy, that has not only held back progress of the people in Saudi Arabia but the Muslim world as a whole. The House of Saud must fall, they're lackey's for western interest, and fuel the US war machine.*Nobleman* wrote:Why should the House of Saud go? I'm pretty sure the overwhelming majority of their population love and appreciate them. Why should me or you say how a country should be governed? Somalia is a 3rd world country because of incompetent leaders and a population even worse.
Saudi Arabia have been able to manage these resources through good governance.
Countries with a larger population and less resources are more prosperous than Somalia, proving that natural resources do not make a country prosperous. Its easy to blame others for your shortfalls, but Somalia inability to govern itself is mainly down to its people.Shirib wrote:Cause it's a terrible monarchy, that has not only held back progress of the people in Saudi Arabia but the Muslim world as a whole. The House of Saud must fall, they're lackey's for western interest, and fuel the US war machine.*Nobleman* wrote:Why should the House of Saud go? I'm pretty sure the overwhelming majority of their population love and appreciate them. Why should me or you say how a country should be governed? Somalia is a 3rd world country because of incompetent leaders and a population even worse.
Saudi Arabia have been able to manage these resources through good governance.
Somalia being a 3rd world country isn't because of leadership, if Somalia had the resources Saudi Arabia had it would be a very prosperous country. Somalia is a 3rd world country because of a lack of natural resources, there isn't a single proven quantifiable natural resource in Somalia. There's only food, fishing, and livestock.
Saudi Arabia is able to manage those resources through American oil companies, and the US petro dollar. There is no good governance, the whole country is run by a single family. The country is all a government bureaucracy. Their laws oppress people if they aren't a Saudi and treat them as if they were animals rather than humans.
You are fcking kidding, right? Right...?Shirib wrote:Cause it's a terrible monarchy, that has not only held back progress of the people in Saudi Arabia but the Muslim world as a whole. The House of Saud must fall, they're lackey's for western interest, and fuel the US war machine.*Nobleman* wrote:Why should the House of Saud go? I'm pretty sure the overwhelming majority of their population love and appreciate them. Why should me or you say how a country should be governed? Somalia is a 3rd world country because of incompetent leaders and a population even worse.
Saudi Arabia have been able to manage these resources through good governance.
Somalia being a 3rd world country isn't because of leadership, if Somalia had the resources Saudi Arabia had it would be a very prosperous country. Somalia is a 3rd world country because of a lack of natural resources, there isn't a single proven quantifiable natural resource in Somalia. There's only food, fishing, and livestock.
Saudi Arabia is able to manage those resources through American oil companies, and the US petro dollar. There is no good governance, the whole country is run by a single family. The country is all a government bureaucracy. Their laws oppress people if they aren't a Saudi and treat them as if they were animals rather than humans.
My key argument is that they are not "objectively reacting to cruelty", considering all these apparent cruelty videos happen to be linked to Arabs, ironic when Somalis commit more cruelty then most other people.SahanGalbeed wrote:This is discussion isn't going anywhere .
The topic here is NOT Somalia .
Telling people to refrain from OBJECTIVELY reacting to the CRUELTY displayed here because they come from this or that country is equally IRRELEVANT if not plain DUMB!!!!
That is exactly what I am saying , your argument is DUMB .*Nobleman* wrote:My key argument is that they are not "objectively reacting to cruelty", considering all these apparent cruelty videos happen to be linked to Arabs, ironic when Somalis commit more cruelty then most other people.SahanGalbeed wrote:This is discussion isn't going anywhere .
The topic here is NOT Somalia .
Telling people to refrain from OBJECTIVELY reacting to the CRUELTY displayed here because they come from this or that country is equally IRRELEVANT if not plain DUMB!!!!
Are you gonna accuse ES of putting this thing up ?Having actual existence or reality
*Nobleman* wrote:My key argument is that they are not "objectively reacting to cruelty", considering all these apparent cruelty videos happen to be linked to Arabs, ironic when Somalis commit more cruelty then most other people.SahanGalbeed wrote:This is discussion isn't going anywhere .
The topic here is NOT Somalia .
Telling people to refrain from OBJECTIVELY reacting to the CRUELTY displayed here because they come from this or that country is equally IRRELEVANT if not plain DUMB!!!!
Name a single country? A country is made prosperous by their natural resources, or the natural resources that they can take from other countries. This is the basis of economics. Natural resources are scarce in Somalia. You can't name a single quantifiable natural resource in Somalia that isn't food, fishing or livestock. If you can, I'm all ears, please do tell.*Nobleman* wrote: Countries with a larger population and less resources are more prosperous than Somalia, proving that natural resources do not make a country prosperous. Its easy to blame others for your shortfalls, but Somalia inability to govern itself is mainly down to its people.
That's not the thing in question, favoring your citizens is one thing. Treating people who are not citizens as if they were slaves with absolutely no rights is a totally different thing. If a white guy in America mistreats an illegal alien, he is subject to the laws and would be prosecuted. In Saudi Arabia, if you're not a Saudi, it's as if you are not human, and the Arabs treat you like a dog, and the government does nothing to protect these people, nor does it give them any rights.*Nobleman* wrote: Tell me one country in the world that does not favour their citizens ahead of foreign nationals.
*Nobleman* wrote:Yes the Saudis are far from perfect, but without a doubt Somalis carry out more human rights abuses against their own people, where as America carries out more human rights abuses on foreign soil then Saudi Arabia ever will. Therefore shouldnt you be calling for the downfall of your home and adopted nation first?