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Re: Reer Maxamed Walaaleeye
Ma kii yara la gumaysan jiray ee Aaden Hagar oo ina-gumeed kan bah-idrays badhida u ruxi jiray baa? Your "halyey's" ancestor Cabdalle Cumar was clothed by Ibraahim Fiqi Yusuf early 19th century after he was captured looking like a gala slave oo bilaa nigis ah for fuck sakes.
Re: Reer Maxamed Walaaleeye
And why should the first Somali terrorist movement and the fat Mullah be remembered , the coward killed women and childern and an armed men and died in a funk hole like Sadam Hussein and 99% of the people his movement butchred were the poor effeminate Harti specially his Dhulbahnate flunkies when they existed the movemnet in droves in 1903. From 1903 till 1919 all he killed amputated raped and pilleged were Dhulbahnate and his Ogaadeen. No decent healthy brain should compare the movement of the people called SNM with the wolves that the Dervish were.Coldoon wrote:Rightwing wrote:UDUN
Abti this thread was aimed to be fishing net that made from fibers woven in a grid to catch big fishes the likes of Cilmiile and Mataan-ciideed. However, it cought Nibiri UDUN. Alaa yarxamak![]()
Udun, waalee wa halyeey. Ninku, marbuu soo gala oo kala dhantala qashinkaa iis urursaday e ku heshiiyey burburinta tarikhda Somaliyeed in order to brainwash the younger generations.
Kow iyo labatan sanadood aayeey ku hayeen "Xuska SNM" and not a single day did they made a "Xuska Darwiish".Now, they thought about, "Aar nimanyahow, let's say Darwiish was a Eydoor movement", because dee wax ictiraaf ah oo no soo socda baba iskayar e, let's at least change tarikhdii raggii iina gumaysaan jiray e loo yaqanay Faqashta.
Udun,
I think you should be concerned with the collection of the bones of your grandfather and grandmothers from the null in front of sultan Nuur's tomb instead of posting a poem you just copied from Doolllo.com. You are a novice little qurjiile rascal i suggest you shouldn't embaress yourself claiming a knowledge when it comes to the Dervish. I have seen few of your replies to Emporer regarding Dervish and not you are only ignorant to that period you are a desprado who changes the lines of few poems inserting Isaaq where it was Daarood , for insance the poem of your Mullah regerading the Warsangali .
Last but not least the poem you posted care to tell us why did the Mullah composed that last poem and from where and due to what?
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ii dhegayso langaabyaho langaabku dhalay, you guys are obsessed with anything that has to do with Daarod, to the point you know every laf-laf e Daarod. Bal ma mantaad Reer Hagar sii kala sartay oo hadana Naalaye Ahmed sii kala sartay. You don't see Dhulbahante kala sarsariya Eydoorka or Habar Jeclodda ama kuwina kale. Qudhanjadda miya lakala sarsaraa? Wa mayaa. A qudhanjo is a qudhanjo. Habar Jeclo wa iska Habar Jeclo. Nothing special about it's sub-clans.CaynabaX wrote:Ma kii yara la gumaysan jiray ee Aaden Hagar oo ina-gumeed kan bah-idrays badhida u ruxi jiray baa? Your "halyey's" ancestor Cabdalle Cumar was clothed by Ibraahim Fiqi Yusuf early 19th century after he was captured looking like a gala slave oo bilaa nigis ah for fuck sakes.

From Raas Kambooni/Kismaayo to Zeylac, qabiilooyinka Dhulbahante ama Daarod siidee u kala baxan waa layaqana. Every Daarod laf has positively contributed in tarikhda Somaliyeed. Laakinse, Eydoor, no body knows anything after Isaaq. The only people that know Habar Yonis ama Habar Jeclo and Habar Awal wa Ogadeenka, Dhulbahantaha iyo Warsangelika, and they too don't even go deep in separating Habaraha into sub-clans, because wa iska wada qudhanjooyin.

X.Playa, sxb, I can destroy your entire argument with one line. You ready? The difference between SNM and Darwiish is, for Darwiish, Somali oo dhan ayaa ku fanta magaaca Darwiish, while SNM is in the dust pin and recognized as Qabyaalad-Driven Movement.
Re: Reer Maxamed Walaaleeye
.X.Playa, sxb, I can destroy your entire argument with one line. You ready? The difference between SNM and Darwiish is, for Darwiish, Somali oo dhan ayaa ku fanta magaaca Darwiish, while SNM is in the dust pin and recognized as Qabyaalad-Driven Movement
Most somalis don't even give a shit about the Dervish, No Raxanweyn no Digil, no Gedabursi, no Ciise, no Isaaq, and no Hawiye and those are 85% of somalis. Only Daarood and not because they care much about their deeds (for no one who knows the deeds of the Dervish can like them) no because of the Mullah been a Daarood, thats it, simple as that. so try again boy
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Come'on man, you're spewing bullshit and you know it. Not a single Hawiye, Raxanweyn, or Samaroon belittles or insults the Darwiish movement. They all respect the Darwiish and recognize it's struggle as both Nationalistic and as true Mujahidin (Not the Qabyaaladin aka SNM).X.Playa wrote:
Most somalis don't even give a shit about the Dervish, No Raxanweyn no Digil, no Gedabursi, no Ciise, no Isaaq, and no Hawiye and those are 85% of somalis. Only Daarood and not because they care much about their deeds (for no one who knows the deeds of the Dervish can like them) no because of the Mullah been a Daarood, thats it, simple as that. so try again boy
I ask you this, why do Isaaq hate Darwiish so bad? Earlier you said, the Sayiid died in a "funk hole" like Saddam Hussein. Seems like you're the kind that believe Col. Corfield is in Heaven and was a Muhajid? Right?

Re: Reer Maxamed Walaaleeye
Well first of all boy you need alot of education whhen it comes to Dervish history, your Dhulbahnate always repeat the name of Corfield ommiting the fact that Corfield's camel corps was formed for 3 things:Coldoon wrote:Come'on man, you're spewing bullshit and you know it. Not a single Hawiye, Raxanweyn, or Samaroon belittles or insults the Darwiish movement. They all respect the Darwiish and recognize it's struggle as both Nationalistic and as true Mujahidin (Not the Qabyaaladin aka SNM).X.Playa wrote:
Most somalis don't even give a shit about the Dervish, No Raxanweyn no Digil, no Gedabursi, no Ciise, no Isaaq, and no Hawiye and those are 85% of somalis. Only Daarood and not because they care much about their deeds (for no one who knows the deeds of the Dervish can like them) no because of the Mullah been a Daarood, thats it, simple as that. so try again boy
I ask you this, why do Isaaq hate Darwiish so bad? Earlier you said, the Sayiid died in a "funk hole" like Saddam Hussein. Seems like you're the kind that believe Col. Corfield is in Heaven and was a Muhajid? Right?
1- To cursh the H.Y and H.J who were waging war on all clans and among themselves.
2- To save the Dhulbahnate who were dubbed "the Ismaaciiliya" of Africa , for their poor states fron the Dervish.
3- To encourge the Dhulbahnate to free their land from the Dervish onslaught.
And finally Richard died trying to svae the Dhulbahnate women and childern and their livelyhood which was their camles, he got kileld in 1913 in a raid rescuing Dhulbahnate not H.Y or H.J. if you need more drilling i could dirll few more facts, it could do you alot saving you from the school of Saado Cali that teaches otherwise.
Having said that about the funk hole, yes he lived in a funk hole in Iimeey having run away from Xaaji Waraabe raid. He died alone and mad in a fox hole wailing about his Daarood, thats a fact most of your imposters such as Dajaal Aw Jaamac and Dajaal Idaajaa forget to tell you.
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Funny how you used his first name Richard as if you knew him, despite the fact all Somali historical texts tend to use his last name, Corfield. Talk about rewriting history. What's next? You're going to sing the song "For He's a Jolly Good Fellow"?X.Playa wrote: Well first of all boy you need alot of education whhen it comes to Dervish history, your Dhulbahnate always repeat the name of Corfield ommiting the fact that Corfield's camel corps was formed for 3 things:
1- To cursh the H.Y and H.J who were waging war on all clans and among themselves.
2- To save the Dhulbahnate who were dubbed "the Ismaaciiliya" of Africa , for their poor states fron the Dervish.
3- To encourge the Dhulbahnate to free their land from the Dervish onslaught.
And finally Richard died trying to svae the Dhulbahnate women and childern and their livelyhood which was their camles, he got kileld in 1913 in a raid rescuing Dhulbahnate not H.Y or H.J. if you need more drilling i could dirll few more facts, it could do you alot saving you from the school of Saado Cali that teaches otherwise.
Having said that about the funk hole, yes he lived in a funk hole in Iimeey having run away from Xaaji Waraabe raid. He died alone and mad in a fox hole wailing about his Daarood, thats a fact most of your imposters such as Dajaal Aw Jaamac and Dajaal Idaajaa forget to tell you.

I only quoted your rubbish for future reference.

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1- One Year before Corfeild's Camel Corps was founded :
Notice there was no Dhulbahnate Devrish at least since 1909, also notice the Dhulbahnate fleeing their land driven bu the Dervish out of most of Nugaal vally.
2- The State of the clans in 1911-1912 , H.Y , H.J , Dhulos and H.Awal:.
Now the British decided to punish the offending tribes , in particular the Habar Yoonis who raided from west Bulaxaar to the east , followed by the Habar Jeclo in crimes, the poor dhulos are not even in the picture , they were the one the British were trying to safe.
Now Godobdon puppy what have you learned from those who know better ??? Now who should celebrate Corefiled? the H.Y/H,J? or the Dhulbahnate?>
The Mad Mullah Of Somaliland by Douglas Jardine.From July to December, 1912, the Dervishes had remained concentrated in the Gerrowei district; and the Ain Valley was left deserted not only by the Mullah's forces, but also by the lawful occupants, most of whom were afraid to return to this danger zone. Amir, the Mullah's uncle and emissary in the Ogaden country, spent this period of quiescence in obtaining supplies of food, clothing, and ammunition from Abyssinian sources. No reply to the Commissioner's suggestion for an armistice had been received, and there was no doubt that the Mullah was temporising to see whether the formation of the Camel Constabulary was a prelude to a Government expedition, as was generally rumoured. In December, however, he established a small party of 150 Dervishes at Ainabo, with instructions to win over the Dolbahanta to his cause. The various sections of the tribe were offered the return of all stock captured during the past three years if they would but join him ; and a reward of 100 camels would be made to any individual rifleman or horseman deserting to the haroun. The Mullah pointed out to the Dolbahanta that they had been severely punished for their allegiance to an infidel Government which afforded them no real protection ; and they were advised to throw in their lot with their own kith and kin. If they declined these terms, they must step aside entirely and afford the Dervishes a free passage through the valley. One month he allowed for deliberation and upon their decision depended their future safety or destruction.
Notice there was no Dhulbahnate Devrish at least since 1909, also notice the Dhulbahnate fleeing their land driven bu the Dervish out of most of Nugaal vally.
2- The State of the clans in 1911-1912 , H.Y , H.J , Dhulos and H.Awal:.
Notice the poor state of the Dhulbahnate been raided by the Mullah and also kicked in the face by H.Y and H.J., the Habar Awal unarmed clan back then also suffered alot contarary to the Daarood fantasy that only Isaaq was armed, in fact the Dhulbahnate , Warsangali and Majeerteen were armed and not the Habar Awal in the west and coast."The various sections of the Habr Toljaala were continually at each other's throats. Similarly, the Aidegalla split into two main sections and carried on a desultory warfare with one another. The eastern Habr Yunis came into frequent collision with the western sections of the tribe ; and the tribe as a whole attempted to recuperate its strength by a large and successful raid upon the Ogaden, which culminated in an enquiry by a British officer in Abyssinian territory, as the result of which the Habr Yunis were called upon to return a balance of no less than 1,330 camels to the Ogden “
As might be expected, the coastal Habr Awal were an easy prey to the more virile tribes of the interior ,until, emboldened by adversity, they retaliated by waylaying and looting traders' caravans as they passed to and from the coast .In this holocaust, in which it is estimated that not less than one-third of the male population of Somaliland perished, there was no tribe that did not suffer either from internal schisms or from attacks by their neighbours. But the most pitiful lot of all fell to certain sections of the Dolbahanta. Ousted from their ancestral grazing grounds by the Mullah's advance and bereft of all their stock, the remnants wandered like veritable Ishmaelites in the Ishaak country, deprived of asylum and almost of access to the coast, owing to the inveterate hatred which the Ishaak harbour for the Darod.” In the following month, Bohotle was occupied as a Dervish post. Thus were the Mullah's forces re-established in British territory. Their success had been gained by striking sudden and unexpected blows when the Dolbahanta were scattered, and had been attended by the artistic mutilation of the vanquished and many unspeakable atrocities.
Now the British decided to punish the offending tribes , in particular the Habar Yoonis who raided from west Bulaxaar to the east , followed by the Habar Jeclo in crimes, the poor dhulos are not even in the picture , they were the one the British were trying to safe.
Corfiled party raided both the H.Y and Habar Jeclo, not Dervish not the Poor Dhulos. Now having punished the H.Y and H.J , Corefild began trying the help the poor Dhulbahnate from the Dervish, and when they were raided as usual this what happened:In January, 1913, the Camel Constabulary moved across from Mandera to Burao to effect settlements between the eastern tribes. Mr. Corfield's success in this work exceeded the most sanguine expectations ; and even the hitherto intractable Habr Yunis vied with each other in rapid compliance with his orders. By mid-March, all serious matters of dispute had been dealt with in this district, and in one instance only had there been any reluctance to carry out the Commandant's instructions. One section of the Habr Toljaala failed to comply with an order to pay over stock within a fixed time, and Mr. Corfield, with the Commissioner's approval, made a rapid descent upon them and drove off more than the amount of stock required to meet their liabilities and to pay the additional fine to Government .
Now thats the official account of the founding of the Camel Corps and the death of Richard Corfeild, but the school of the Daarood junta use to teach that Corfeild killed the Dhulos and the Daarood and that he was finally killed by their Sayid in vengence. No mention at all of why was the camel coprs was founded, who they fought , who they hellped and what clan was accompying Corefild during his last batter.“The force marched south-east towards Ber, and, on the road, retreating tribesmen reported that the Dervishes in large numbers, under the command of Ow Yussuf bin Abdulla Hassan, the Mullah's brother, having raided and pillaged in all directions, were withdrawing the looted stock in the direction of Idoweina, thirty miles southeast of Burao, which they had made their rendezvous.the force was halted eleven miles northeast of Idoweina; and here fifteen men of the Constabulary, mounted on ponies, who had been sent on ahead, confirmed the news which had been received on the road. They had exchanged shots with the Dervishes whose strength they estimated at over 2,000 footmen all armed with rifles and 150 horsemen. At 8 p.m. the Constabulary moved slowly on again, and at 9 p.m. they halted for the night within four miles of Idoweina. A zariba was made, and the Constabulary were formed up in column of sections, with the Maxim gun mounted and ready for action on the left front and the camels in the centre. All military precautions were taken to guard against a night attack. From the enemy camp occasional shots were heard throughout the night, and the African sky, radiant with a myriad stars, was also aglow with the reflection of the Dervish camp-fires. The Constabulary were joined by some 300 Dolbahanta who were anxious to recover their lost stock from the Dervishes; and some ammunition from the precious reserve was distributed to them. The immediate object was to prevent the Dervishes from driving off the stock they had looted from the Dolbahanta, and the ultimate object was to restore our damaged prestige. In both these objects we failed lamentably.
For the Dervishes got away with the stock*,Estimated at 5,000-6,000 camels and 20,000-30,000 sheep. The numbers were so large that the Dervishes had to send to the haroun for assistance to drive in their loot.”
Now Godobdon puppy what have you learned from those who know better ??? Now who should celebrate Corefiled? the H.Y/H,J? or the Dhulbahnate?>
Re: Reer Maxamed Walaaleeye
X.Playa, don't waste your time. You're fighting a battle you've lost even before it begun. Enjoy your cousin exposing your "gaalo raac" tendencies. Ninyahow waxan ku weydiyey, is it true your Suldan Waraabe's sister was married to Corfield?

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Gordon,
Edab ma kuu yeelay ?? anshaxu aabahaa ahaa ma kuu eekaysiiyay?? beentii iyo xaaraantii ay ku sheegeen Aw Jaamaca iyo Idaajaa ma ku ceebowday?? hadaba naso wiilyow afka cas, habarta Udun na mar dhow baan gawrici doonaa , bal ha soo laabto waan sugayaaye. Korfield Koorfiled bay baratay, Koorfiled siilka naagihiina ayuu Daraawiish ka ilaalin jiray , anaku hadaanu nahay H.Y iyo H.J ba col baanu ahayn oo 10 jeer baanu dagaalanay, si kuwii futadooda laga dhicinayay Daraawiish iyo geeloogda ee u dhintay Koorfeil waa reerka Saado Cali , not us. Don't further embaress yourself and never mention Corfiled again , you hear boy?
Edab ma kuu yeelay ?? anshaxu aabahaa ahaa ma kuu eekaysiiyay?? beentii iyo xaaraantii ay ku sheegeen Aw Jaamaca iyo Idaajaa ma ku ceebowday?? hadaba naso wiilyow afka cas, habarta Udun na mar dhow baan gawrici doonaa , bal ha soo laabto waan sugayaaye. Korfield Koorfiled bay baratay, Koorfiled siilka naagihiina ayuu Daraawiish ka ilaalin jiray , anaku hadaanu nahay H.Y iyo H.J ba col baanu ahayn oo 10 jeer baanu dagaalanay, si kuwii futadooda laga dhicinayay Daraawiish iyo geeloogda ee u dhintay Koorfeil waa reerka Saado Cali , not us. Don't further embaress yourself and never mention Corfiled again , you hear boy?
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Re: Reer Maxamed Walaaleeye
caay ma lagu daalo miyaa




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Re: Reer Maxamed Walaaleeye
Coldoon,
I guess you are trying to dodge that nice piece of history. We know the Qurjile and their history. I was astonished how can you describe someone as a "halyey" against the Isaaq if his ancestors were polishing the shoes of the same Isaaqs. If you are aware of the Qurjile history, you'd know Cabdalle Cumar Cali Naaleeye your "halyeys" ancestor was captured by Ibraahim Fiqi Yusuf in the early 19th century after he was captured naked like the gala slaves, "Kite" didn't kill him showed him mercy and clothed your buddie's greatgrandfather. How do you explain that his daughter Buney Cabdalle sister of Salaax's bride Af-Xakaame mothered Ibraahim Fiqi Yuusuf's nephew Cismaan Abokor Fiqi Yuusuf? The same Cismaan Abokor Fiqi Yuusuf who lead the well known raid in "ILKACAD" against the Dervish.
Nimankii Daraawiish gaday, ee geliyey Maadhiinka
Gobo'Gobo iyo Dheelliya raggii, kaga gariirsiiyey
Nimankii Ilkacad geyllamay, ee Gobannimuu eexday.
Islaantii Buney was a gift after your buddies greatgrandfather Cabdalle life was spared. Know your history kid, Qurjile "Oodeed" history is even more ridiculous their finest grazing lands was conquered like stealing a lollipop from a 3 year old.

I guess you are trying to dodge that nice piece of history. We know the Qurjile and their history. I was astonished how can you describe someone as a "halyey" against the Isaaq if his ancestors were polishing the shoes of the same Isaaqs. If you are aware of the Qurjile history, you'd know Cabdalle Cumar Cali Naaleeye your "halyeys" ancestor was captured by Ibraahim Fiqi Yusuf in the early 19th century after he was captured naked like the gala slaves, "Kite" didn't kill him showed him mercy and clothed your buddie's greatgrandfather. How do you explain that his daughter Buney Cabdalle sister of Salaax's bride Af-Xakaame mothered Ibraahim Fiqi Yuusuf's nephew Cismaan Abokor Fiqi Yuusuf? The same Cismaan Abokor Fiqi Yuusuf who lead the well known raid in "ILKACAD" against the Dervish.
Nimankii Daraawiish gaday, ee geliyey Maadhiinka
Gobo'Gobo iyo Dheelliya raggii, kaga gariirsiiyey
Nimankii Ilkacad geyllamay, ee Gobannimuu eexday.
Islaantii Buney was a gift after your buddies greatgrandfather Cabdalle life was spared. Know your history kid, Qurjile "Oodeed" history is even more ridiculous their finest grazing lands was conquered like stealing a lollipop from a 3 year old.

Re: Reer Maxamed Walaaleeye
X.Playa
Aar waxee iilatahay waad yara sarkhansantahay o waxaad isku heesataba iinaad gebigaddaba aad tahay nin Daarod Ismacail ah.
Aw Jamaac Cumar Ciise iyo Idaajaa bee kaga dhegtay. Wax problem ah o sameeyen labadas nin ma jirto. Ma ayeega kugu yidhi gaalkii Engriis iyo Ethiopia la shaqee o tunka saar? Ma Siyaad Barre ku yidhi Xaaji Waraabahaad shegaysiid Corfield waalasha sii?
Riyaadad ku jirtiid ka kac sxb. Somali waxaad ka tahay Dir, Dirna waxaad ka sii tahay Isaaq, Isaaqna waxaad ka sii tahay Habar Yonis. Qodhin iyo xeeradiin bal eega. Darwiish gadhimaysiid, xidigaha waliga miyaad gaadhi, waa mayaa.
Aar waxee iilatahay waad yara sarkhansantahay o waxaad isku heesataba iinaad gebigaddaba aad tahay nin Daarod Ismacail ah.

Aw Jamaac Cumar Ciise iyo Idaajaa bee kaga dhegtay. Wax problem ah o sameeyen labadas nin ma jirto. Ma ayeega kugu yidhi gaalkii Engriis iyo Ethiopia la shaqee o tunka saar? Ma Siyaad Barre ku yidhi Xaaji Waraabahaad shegaysiid Corfield waalasha sii?
Riyaadad ku jirtiid ka kac sxb. Somali waxaad ka tahay Dir, Dirna waxaad ka sii tahay Isaaq, Isaaqna waxaad ka sii tahay Habar Yonis. Qodhin iyo xeeradiin bal eega. Darwiish gadhimaysiid, xidigaha waliga miyaad gaadhi, waa mayaa.
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Re: Reer Maxamed Walaaleeye
Coldoon Dhegtaa dhiiga loo daray
Waxaan ku gartay video-ga uu soo geshay in desperation.
In fact, for the past 30 years some were attempting in vain to rewrite history, but, if you dig a little bit deeper I think you'd be surprised WAXA CAWSE LA MUUSEEYEY
CHEERS
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In fact, for the past 30 years some were attempting in vain to rewrite history, but, if you dig a little bit deeper I think you'd be surprised WAXA CAWSE LA MUUSEEYEY

CHEERS
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Re: Reer Maxamed Walaaleeye
Rightwing, waalee iyo biilee been baad ku hadashay. Ta labad, the video is a prove that contradicts X.Playa and his rubbish. 

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