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"Shaykh Ibn `Uthaymin reinforces his anthropomorphism by saying (Sharh p. 42):

"It is established that Allah Most High has feet (al-qadam thâbit lillâhi ta`âlâ), and Ahl al-Sunna have explained the leg and foot (al-rijl wa al-qadam) as being literal according to what befits Allah (haqîqatan `alâ al-wajhi al-lâ'iq billâh); whereas the "People of Figurative Interpretation"

If you go ahead and agree what this man has said, go and worship your sky god, anyone who holds firm to such beliefs cannot be called a muslim, NO!

AgentOfChaos, because in this time and age, Islam is not a happy religion, Islam has seen many injustices, like the abolishment of the khilafa, made into reality by 3 parties, Mustafa Kemal, The brits, and no other then the Saudis, and it is thanks to this abolishment, they set up schools and have recieved the money to take the Islamic world by a storm with their up most incorrect interpretations of Islam. The corruption the prophet warned about emerging from Riyadh has come, and anyone who is convinced can never return to Islam.

AbuukarSubeer wrote:"Shaykh Ibn `Uthaymin reinforces his anthropomorphism by saying (Sharh p. 42):

"It is established that Allah Most High has feet (al-qadam thâbit lillâhi ta`âlâ), and Ahl al-Sunna have explained the leg and foot (al-rijl wa al-qadam) as being literal according to what befits Allah (haqîqatan `alâ al-wajhi al-lâ'iq billâh); whereas the "People of Figurative Interpretation"

If you go ahead and agree what this man has said, go and worship your sky god, anyone who holds firm to such beliefs cannot be called a muslim, NO!

AgentOfChaos, because in this time and age, Islam is not a happy religion, Islam has seen many injustices, like the abolishment of the khilafa, made into reality by 3 parties, Mustafa Kemal, The brits, and no other then the Saudis, and it is thanks to this abolishment, they set up schools and have recieved the money to take the Islamic world by a storm with their up most incorrect interpretations of Islam. The corruption the prophet warned about emerging from Riyadh has come, and anyone who is convinced can never return to Islam.

Sufi baba hajji abuukar....guess what?





































You're a Sufi!

“Muhammad the Messenger of Allah (s) will be seated
by His Lord on the Throne next to Him.”
(Ibn Taymiyya)
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“Whoever imagines that our Lord sits on the Throne and leaves space at His side for His Prophet to sit, has followed the Christians who hold that ‘Isa was raised to heaven and sat next to his Father – Allah (swt) is clear of the partnership they ascribe to Him!”
(Al-Kawthari)

Go ahead and put your picture up of a man sitting on the chair with hands and eyes and feet, this is your idol, go and worship it, because you cannot have the courage to detest what these men have wrote indeed shows your true colours.

Yes i am a sufi, which means i follow Tassawuf which then means i follow Al-Ihsan, as said to be part of Islam in the hadith of bukhari where Malik-Al Jibriil A.S asks the prophet questions.

I practice Al-Ihsan, the knowledge of spirituality.

AbuukarSubeer wrote:"Shaykh Ibn `Uthaymin reinforces his anthropomorphism by saying (Sharh p. 42):

"It is established that Allah Most High has feet (al-qadam thâbit lillâhi ta`âlâ), and Ahl al-Sunna have explained the leg and foot (al-rijl wa al-qadam) as being literal according to what befits Allah (haqîqatan `alâ al-wajhi al-lâ'iq billâh); whereas the "People of Figurative Interpretation"

If you go ahead and agree what this man has said, go and worship your sky god, anyone who holds firm to such beliefs cannot be called a muslim, NO!

AgentOfChaos, because in this time and age, Islam is not a happy religion, Islam has seen many injustices, like the abolishment of the khilafa, made into reality by 3 parties, Mustafa Kemal, The brits, and no other then the Saudis, and it is thanks to this abolishment, they set up schools and have recieved the money to take the Islamic world by a storm with their up most incorrect interpretations of Islam. The corruption the prophet warned about emerging from Riyadh has come, and anyone who is convinced can never return to Islam.

Take it easy, it's not like I insulted Berbera or anything. All I'm saying is why not pray and follow the teaching of Islam to the best of your ability instead of pointing finger at other sects of Islam and saying they are following the wrong path because that is dangerous. Never be hasty in declaring tafkir on this individual or certain sects of Islam.

I am not declaring takfir, but when i see wrong i detest it, the Ummah is one body remember that.

AbuukarSubeer wrote:I am not declaring takfir, but when i see wrong i detest it, the Ummah is one body remember that.

Fair enough, but if you want to wear your religion on your sleeve, and start talk about the Ummah you better be one hell of a Muhmin and not just an ordinary Muslim like the rest of us, because that would be hypocritical. Everything starts with self.

hyperactive wrote:من العلم الذي لا ينفع ولا يضر الجهل به



that what we call in majilis al3il what you guys arguing about!

Some stories are better left untold,, thats why i never bother to as about the dispute and fitna that occurred back then.

Seems like Baaba Zubeer has been karbashed by Imam HutuKing and Ustadh Abakar

AgentOfChaos wrote:

AbuukarSubeer wrote:I am not declaring takfir, but when i see wrong i detest it, the Ummah is one body remember that.

Fair enough, but if you want to wear your religion on your sleeve, and start talk about the Ummah you better be one hell of a Muhmin and not just an ordinary Muslim like the rest of us, because that would be hypocritical. Everything starts with self.

Of course, i reflect myself on my statements, improving myself is the key goal, but i cannot sit down quietly as i see bullshitters parade with the religion with by far incorrect interpretations.


There is a cancer in the deen today, and it needs to be eradicated.

grandpakhalif wrote:Seems like Baaba Zubeer has been karbashed by Imam HutuKing and Ustadh Abakar

They simply pasted youtube videos with " " whilst i brought clear proofs of your anthropomorphism beliefs, however if you believe they karbashed me, to your stupidity i leave you be ya jahil.

AbuukarSubeer wrote:

AgentOfChaos wrote:

AbuukarSubeer wrote:I am not declaring takfir, but when i see wrong i detest it, the Ummah is one body remember that.

Fair enough, but if you want to wear your religion on your sleeve, and start talk about the Ummah you better be one hell of a Muhmin and not just an ordinary Muslim like the rest of us, because that would be hypocritical. Everything starts with self.

Of course, i reflect myself on my statements, improving myself is the key goal, but i cannot sit down quietly as i see bullshitters parade with the religion with by far incorrect interpretations.


There is a cancer in the deen today, and it needs to be eradicated.

Who or what is this cancer, and what do you have in mind in terms of eradication?

That i leave to Allah, all i can do now is detest this cancer with my mouth, because what action can you take? After all, the prophet did say a man from his family will revive the religion to its purest form, he still is yet to come.

You haven't answered my question.

AgentOfChaos wrote:You haven't answered my question.

The cancer is the rise of the sect that orginated in the desert valleys of Yamamah with a man named Muhammad bin Abdul wahab, what he did is he divided Islam even more then ever, him along with his close associate, Muhammad bin Saud, 100 years later, his great grandson, Abdal-Aziz bin Saud made a pact with the British, this in its own, is a violation of Allah's law's according to the Qur'an, however he was bribed with 5,000 sterling pounds, to rebel against the Khilafah, and he did. With the abolishment of the Khilafah, Islam is left like a Tiger without teeth, and you can only blame ourselves, but in the end the fault lies with those who betrayed muslims, the forces of najd, a valley whom the prophet cursed and refused to pray for, he said that conflicts, corruption and the side of satan will rise from there, pointing east of Medina, where Riyadh lies , the capital of Saudi Arabia. They usurped all of the muslim lands and claimed it under their own name, they desecrated the holy cities by scattering Mc Donalds and KFC's, turning the prophets home into a toilet, etc... and it is this sect, the Wahabi sect, that falsley claims that they are following the Salafus-Saaliheen, it is this very sect, that the prophet warned us of, they brought no benifit to Islam, all they did is brought more suffering and more despair.

“...THE PROPHET (SALLAL LAAHU ALAIHI WASALLAM) REMARKED: "LEAVE HIM, AS HIS SLAYING WILL SERVE NO GOOD PURPOSE, AS HE IS NOT THE ONLY INDIVIDUAL BUT THERE ARE A HOST OF OTHERS LIKE HIM AND IF YOU COMPARE THEIR PRAYERS AND FASTING TO THAT OF YOURS, YOU YOURSELF WILL FEEL ASHAMED.THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO WILL RECITE THE QURAN BUT IT WILL NOT GO BEYOND THEIR THROATS, WITH ALL THESE APPARENT VIRTUES THEY WILL LEAVE THE FOLD OF DEEN JUST LIKE THE ARROW LEAVES THE BOW." [MISKHAT SHAREEF, PP. 535 ] - [SAHEEH AL-BUKHARI, VOL:4, H558,807,808 & VOL:6, H577,578 & VOL:9, H527]

Do you know what he means when he said their prayers and fasting will make you feel ashamed of yourself? he means they will preserve their salah and sawm better then you, and this is what they do today, you will find them pointing fingers that if you miss a salah you are a kafir, yet the prophet says "HESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO WILL RECITE THE QURAN BUT IT WILL NOT GO BEYOND THEIR THROATS, WITH ALL THESE APPARENT VIRTUES THEY WILL LEAVE THE FOLD OF DEEN JUST LIKE THE ARROW LEAVES THE BOW"

I don't know about you, but when i read this, i can see perfectly who the prophet is describing, Allahu A3lam.