Are Somalis PROUD Arabs??

[ZubeirAwal]

Rasulalah did say anyone who speaks arabic is an arab.

And Somalis historicaly during the islam period of 1400 years have been tied to the arab world more than the bantu world ,the cities of berbera and zaylac were important deen centers and trading ports, zaylac was ruled by an arab up until the 19th century when a isaaq sacked the city, the point is arabs dont look at us at disgust, they would if you went crawling into their countries in refugee camps.

And the arabic language to somalis is lingua franc , a language used in system, billboards, advertisements, government buildings etc... it's the 2nd language to somali, we are arab , and we are somalis

[Kabriid]

Sudanese people are actually Arabs maybe a little bit darker than other Arabs in Egypt and in saudi arabia but they are Arabs like every one else.

The Jacaliyin tribes Basharayn tribes are all descendants of Arabs in sudan the ingessana tribe speak Arabic but also another native tongue they also have ahli bait people descendants of Both Imam Hussein and Imam Hassan , Mujahid Muhammad Al Mahdi was a sharif

Nothing wrong with our Arab brothers wa dad islaam ah

Nothing wrong? So I guess markey dumarka Somaliyeed e tahriibeya kufsaneyaan waa ok, ileen waa dad Islaam ah? am I right?

Do all the 300 million arabs do that . what about Somalida iyagu is kufsanayaa is xoogaya is dilaya is aasayaa , generalization generalization generalization

Walee maantaan qoslay. Ninkii Khalid Ali oo ereyga generalization isticmaaley.

Micnihiisa soo baro first. You generalize everything and everyone.

Carabtu waxay dumarka Somaliyed u kufsadaan inay muujiyaan that the individual in question being black and a woman have no value as a human being and therefore the only intrinsic value that the person have, waxa weeye in la isticmaalo for one's own pleasure.

Ninka Somaliga ee waxaa sameyneya wuu u badheedhay but there is no motive behind it unless it's clan related laakin qof cunsuri nimo daraadeed qof kale kufsaneya waa sheekada Carabta.

In historic times, in the Americas it was the slave owners who did that to African slaves.

[Tanker]

Claiming to be Arabs made Somalia rich in the 70s and 80s baby The Arabs gave us billions of dollars and in 1982 in the Somali-Ethiopian border war Kuwait gave the arab republic of Somalia 40 tanks in the name of Arabnimo.

[Based]

OK based then tell me what classifies an arab, because it sure ain't that 300+ million people are related.

They aren't related at all. It's a meta-ethnicity much like Chinese or Indian in that there are a number of diverse origins and peoples, but have developed a common culture and lingua franca over time. Berbers, Nubians, Phoenicians, Syrians, Lebanese, Egyptians, and others have been subject to Arabization since the advent of Islam and have adopted Arabic as a first language relatively recently. It's a pretty clear cut case of cultural imperialism, much like Latin America adopting the Spanish language and culture.

I dunno where Somalis come into the equation, seeing as we're not actually descended from Arab tribes, don't speak Arabic, and haven't adopted Arabic culture.

[Khalid Ali]

Kufsi is Kufsi saaxib wa wasmo xoog la qasbay adigu ninka kufsanaya ma dakhtarka dadka sheekeyaad u geysey ma waxad weydisay wuxu u kufsaday wa naag madow crazy folks

Arabs wax lugu naco anigu ma arkin ofcourse their rulers are useless laakin shacabku dad xun maha oo dhan shakhsiyaad xun xun ba ku jira umad kasta

[Khalid Ali]

OK based then tell me what classifies an arab, because it sure ain't that 300+ million people are related.

They aren't related at all. It's a meta-ethnicity much like Chinese or Indian in that there are a number of diverse origins and peoples, but have developed a common culture and lingua franca over time. Berbers, Nubians, Phoenicians, Syrians, Lebanese, Egyptians, and others have been subject to Arabization since the advent of Islam and have adopted Arabic as a first language relatively recently. It's a pretty clear cut case of cultural imperialism, much like Latin America adopting the Spanish language and culture.

I dunno where Somalis come into the equation, seeing we're not actually descended from Arab tribes, don't speak Arabic, and haven't adopted Arabic culture.

Basds Somalis speak Somali as their native tongue but Arabic is spoken awell , in Djibouti french and Arabic are the official languages its a Somali country Arab culture was ofcourse also spread in north Africa and the Horn aswel, Since Islam is revealed in the Arabic language so people learned Arabic , but Somalis have adopted some Arab tradition and Arab culture and they do wear arab clothing they same way as macawiis is not really from the horn., Somali is a mix of everything and we should be proud of that a mixed identity perhaps Arab and Somali can go hand in hand.

[ZubeirAwal]

Based, arabic is lingua franca in somali lands, and our vocabulary consists of many american words

and somalis do speak arabic, a few of them but they live inside in hargeisa or wherever



two somali politicians debating on al jazeera ARABIC


Need i say more

arabic is lingua franca for us, and we are arab, systematically

[Cumar-Labasuul]

OK based then tell me what classifies an arab, because it sure ain't that 300+ million people are related.

They aren't related at all. It's a meta-ethnicity much like Chinese or Indian in that there are a number of diverse origins and peoples, but have developed a common culture and lingua franca over time. Berbers, Nubians, Phoenicians, Syrians, Lebanese, Egyptians, and others have been subject to Arabization since the advent of Islam and have adopted Arabic as a first language relatively recently. It's a pretty clear cut case of cultural imperialism, much like Latin America adopting the Spanish language and culture.

I agree on this part about assimilation, they were originally nubians/berbers/copt/assyrians and many yemeni, omani and gulf tribes

I dunno where Somalis come into the equation, seeing as we're not actually descended from Arab tribes, don't speak Arabic, and haven't adopted Arabic culture.

descended - we cannot prove/disprove this
speak - majority of somalis do even the nomads as they used to write in arabic for centuries before the somali script was adopted
culture - we share many cultural similarities such as dress, food and the majority of arabs are muslim like ourselves so that is the main thing which unites us.

[Gantaal05]

Claiming to be Arabs made Somalia rich in the 70s and 80s baby The Arabs gave us billions of dollars and in 1982 in the Somali-Ethiopian border war Kuwait gave the arab republic of Somalia 40 tanks in the name of Arabnimo.

oh look another Hutu stuck in the 80's

Somali people had a decent name and were respected through out the Arab world in those years.
Majeerteniya was trading with the Arabs ,Persian before the 18th century

till you Hutus and your idoor irir fellows together with your Somali-Bantu cousins destroyed the government and started influx migration after the civil wat going to Yemen and the Middle-east and tarnished our name with your dawarsi

[Based]

@Khalid correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you find out you belonged to the E1b1b1b subclade when you took your genetic test?
Here are your relatives:

[ZubeirAwal]

Gantaal, mad sakhraan ayad tahay?, the destruction of the somalis can be only blamed at the dictatorship, and your tribe took part in it, actually your clan was the first to start the rebel groups, SSDF was formed before the SNM and the USC, so who the fock you blaming?, and its no secret that you dhabayacos kill the masakiin who are fleeing to yemen, you make them pay loads, and then you drown them on their way to yemen.


Ha iska dhigin dad fiyacan, ileen waxad tihiin qowmul dhabayac

[ZubeirAwal]

@Khalid correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you find out you belonged to the E1b1b1b subclade when you took your genetic test?
Here are your relatives:

It goes through masr, and they are arabs, which makes us related to arab.

[Kabriid]

Kufsi is Kufsi saaxib wa wasmo xoog la qasbay adigu ninka kufsanaya ma dakhtarka dadka sheekeyaad u geysey ma waxad weydisay wuxu u kufsaday wa naag madow crazy folks

Arabs wax lugu naco anigu ma arkin ofcourse their rulers are useless laakin shacabku dad xun maha oo dhan shakhsiyaad xun xun ba ku jira umad kasta

Kufsigu wuu noocya badanyahay. You're jus trying to dismiss crucial facts.


But as I said, carabtu waxay dumarka Somaliyed u kufsadaan inay muujiyaan that the individual in question being black and a woman have no value as a human being and therefore the only intrinsic value that the person have, waxa weeye in la isticmaalo for one's own pleasure.

There's no other reason. For instance in Yemen, you have a group of people called the Al-Muhamashiin. Waa dad madmadow and they're discriminated. One of the myths about these people is that naagohoodu waa licentious.

This is not a coincidence. Waa arin jirta. Even during Arab slavery, one of the reasons ay naagaha madow u iibsan jireen waxay aheyd to use them sexually and have them as concubines.

[ZubeirAwal]

InaXaydar are you saying arabs are racist, nigga how you gonna generalize 300 million people, the prophet was an ARAB and he was the one to break the code of racism

any people will be discriminated aslong as you are poor, no matter if your somali, or bengali, thats the way aduunka works.

If a somali was rich the nigga will be bitch-slappin arabs all the day, but aslong as you are poor you'll be descriminated

[Kabriid]

@Khalid correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you find out you belonged to the E1b1b1b subclade when you took your genetic test?
Here are your relatives:

It goes through masr, and they are arabs, which makes us related to arab.

Egyptians are mixed but since the paternal marker doesn't change, some Egyptians still have the Ancient E-haplogroup (E1b1b) ay ka dhaxleen Faraciinti dhulkaa ku nooleyd. Somalis on the other hand are E-haplogroup (E1b1b) because that's where it originated.

I guess Fircoon was not wrong after all. The man said Land of Punt is my ancestral homeland.