Somalia is not wholly homogeneous

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Re: Somalia is not wholly homogeneous

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Siciid85 wrote: The white man established modern day America the man from West Africa had no say and just worked on the farms much like the Somali Bantus.
And a Man whose father is from Kenya is the "President of the United States of America" :whew:
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Re: Somalia is not wholly homogeneous

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Siciid85 wrote:I did not agree you assume too much. You properly think Isaaq = All Somalis.
No walaal I haven't said that, in fact that would never cross my mind, that's just sad and wrong.

Siciid85 wrote:What have the Bantus in ex Italian Somalia done to be considered worthy to be adopted into the Somali ethnic group?
The same can be said about any qabiil, and let's face it almost ALL the qabiils of Somalia ( including my qabiil) are responsible for the destruction of Somalia which led to civil war, I hardly call that "worthy." If anything Bantus are one of the few people who did not have hand in the downfall of Somalia.

Siciid85 wrote: Like I said ethnic groups are not defined by late comers. It is like saying why can't African Americans be white Americans.
But White Americans came from Europe, only Native Americans are ethnic to the land.
Siciid85 wrote:The white man established modern day America the man from West Africa had no say and just worked on the farms much like the Somali Bantus.
This white man you speak of who established modern day America was oppressed pilgrim who ran away from Europe. But in the eyes of Native Americans all white people are illegal aliens. So walaaal what I'm getting at is that we all came from somewhere, so can we live together peacefully instead of pointlessly arguing who came first and who came last?


(P.s It's been good talking to you, we will continue this tomorrow, I have to go now I got long day ahead of me tomorrow)
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Re: Somalia is not wholly homogeneous

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this iidoor cannot conceal his hatred for Somalia/Somalis.
Nigga...you have nowhere else to go...the British/Americans have thrown your dreams of secession under the bus.
Learn to love your country :som:
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Re: Somalia is not wholly homogeneous

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agent of chaos is darood and here is how I figured it out lol :blessed:

hatred of somali ethnic definition, 'only ethnic somalis! that's not fair! what about,x,y,z they aint somalis'
if u aint irir gtfo, simple as that

it hurts jebertis cos they still see themselves as immigrants an non somalis,
so their 'what about us' rants they use it to defend bantus and other foreigners so they can use it against irirs, ( is darood a sab confederation though? will look into that later)

and the whole 'all clans destroyed somalia thing'

only darood says that
:mindblown: not all clans caused it wtf, stop shifting blame onto something you started

hawiye fixed the country, and we are running it

just beware of darood behavior like, 'why only irir....'
'it was all clans' all that BULLSHIT

other samaales are somali too, but irir makes up most of the somalis today, the other ones are known as some hawiye and dir subclans and sab clans, depends if u think irir is the son of hill, and father of hawiye and dir and sab clans are the brothers

or if they are all on the same level, with the other samaales, instead of them being his kids! either way. i don't see how that shows bantu migrants as somalis :mindblown:
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Re: Somalia is not wholly homogeneous

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original dervish wrote:this iidoor cannot conceal his hatred for Somalia/Somalis.
Nigga...you have nowhere else to go...the British/Americans have thrown your dreams of secession under the bus.
Learn to love your country :som:

Jeberti aint do shit for somalia except destroy it, so don't claim 'somalia' when you are trying to make puntland and 'jubaland' countries, fake btich

:whew: idoors actually built an irir state, cuntlanders been jealous ever since because they can't destroy it
they will be the first to be kicked back to 'yemen' :D :up: :stylin:


irir unity.
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Re: Somalia is not wholly homogeneous

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Bantus have contributed to the somali civil war by occupying land they do not own,trying to take over Irir land

and by killing and raping somali women and children,
joining al shabaab so they can rape women etc.. and many other atrocities.

if you see these foreigners as 'somalis' then you are probably not even a somali yourself :whew:

they are going to go back to Tanzania so I am not worried.
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Re: Somalia is not wholly homogeneous

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Nigga! finish your breakfast or you`ll be late for junior high. :D
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Re: Somalia is not wholly homogeneous

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metamorphosis wrote:How do you account for the isaqs in south somalia, the daroods and the hawiyes in somaliland? I dont think you have the slightest clue of what the word means. Give it a rest dude because with each new thread you are exposing your stupidity. How can one person be so stupid? :mindblown:
Southern Somalia is far from homogenius. Every time i see videos from southern somalia especially rural areas, i see bantu people, no somali people.
Northern Somalia is more homogenius although there are some arab influences.
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Re: Somalia is not wholly homogeneous

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Funny thread.. :|
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Re: Somalia is not wholly homogeneous

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Agent I am not referring to the 90s but way back, nobody said Somali tribes are saints but give credit where it is due it is their ancestors
that pacified much of the land today Somalis live in and proudly claim "they are one of the ethnic groups with the largest lands in Africa" although
some areas are occupied(NFD,Somali region). Again I am not from ex Italian Somalia I am not denying you the right to live peacefully with your
countrymen (Jareerweyne Bantu ethnic group), in fact I do think regardless of the different ethnic groups in the south you should all get along for
the future of ex Italian Somalia. Yes white Americans are originally from Europe as recent as 300 years ago were's the Somalis were in the
land for 700 years, thousands for some groups. It was rather the past relation between white Americans and African Americans that I was getting to
that is similar to the past relation between the Somalis and the Somali Bantus(how they came to land) as slaves not whether they are early natives.

ElfRuler wrote:
Siciid85 wrote: The white man established modern day America the man from West Africa had no say and just worked on the farms much like the Somali Bantus.
And a Man whose father is from Kenya is the "President of the United States of America" :whew:

That is right.If Somalis from south play their card rights one day they can have a Bantu as a president in ex Italian Somalia afterall they are 22.24% of the population. :blessed:



Bwt Obama's father is actually from the nilotic ethnic group Luo Bantu maha
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Re: Somalia is not wholly homogeneous

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kkkkk Doing/Saying everything for ictiraaf huh?
I wouldnt be surprised if converting to christianity is seen as option :Heh:
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Re: Somalia is not wholly homogeneous

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Never that, Islam in Somali inhabited areas started in the north, some groups in the south were pagans as late as the 19th century. It is actually
Southerners who are converting to Christianity in Dadaab refugee camps.



End result: Pure Somalilanders/Muslim Vs Ethnically mixed Southerners/Muslim/minority Christian. So any clash between the two can have ethnic and
religious dimension in the future. The solution is departing from each other fully much like Pakistan and India. The only difference is ex Italian Somalia
population is not that larger than Somaliland population compared to the huge population difference between Pakistan-India, when ex Italian Somalia becomes
20 million, Somaliland will be about 17 million. So you guys face more threat.
:whew:
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Re: Somalia is not wholly homogeneous

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Siciid85 wrote: End result: Pure Somalilanders/Muslim Vs Ethnically mixed Southerners/Muslim/minority Christian.
Is Michael Mariano considered "pure Somalilander"? And what exactly was his religion?
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Re: Somalia is not wholly homogeneous

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AgentOfChaos wrote:
Siciid85 wrote: End result: Pure Somalilanders/Muslim Vs Ethnically mixed Southerners/Muslim/minority Christian.
Is Michael Mariano considered "pure Somalilander" and what exactly was his religion?
that nigga was a kenyan who settled into somaliland thanks to the british who tried to de-islamize the former territory but failed and mr mariano was gone post 1960
that answers ur question
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Re: Somalia is not wholly homogeneous

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I have never seen someone as stupid like Siciid85.

Do they not have schools in Hargeisa? Does he even know what homogeneous means.

And get rid of the bantu filth. :up:
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