Putland will not attend the London Conference

[Magnusomalius]

We will make Somalia work from right here , no worries .
Do not doubt people's intelligence nor mistake silence for indifference .
I am gonna crush you all , figuratively of course , Allah Akbar !

[GIJaamac]

Have Dir and D&M suddenly become Hawiye?

Kulli waa walaalo, hakala saariin.
I have a dream ! A daarood free Somalia ! We dont need your gaajo and your deserts, we have enough beautiful fertile land for ourselves !

[Magnusomalius]

Well I am not going to speak for the daarods because actually every time they say something they shoot themselves in the mouth , but my point is , we're not gonna leave anyone behind , doesn't mean we have to love each and every one , we got to do it out of sense of duty .
Chores are a necessary task for the common good , not always pleasant

[Khalid Ali]

Original dervish who are we fooling Somalis cannot share a country they have all deep untold secrets we have private groups online, we wish to annihilate each other. The daarood dont want to submit to Hawiye we have seen it with Jubbbaland daaroods from dhagaxbuur from rivers of Kenya are calling for Jubbaland. The Hawiyes became very sharp and they are united for the first time in 22 years they have their religious groups damul jadiid and islaax and all the other religious groups are united today they have their lobby groups intact hawiye action group. For the first time i see every Hawiye facing Mogadishu and showing real dedication to rebuild Mogadishu and they are leaving the rest behind. No houses will be returned or properties that used to belong to daaroods. No farms of jareer weyne will be returned. The Puntlanders have their Puntland their own country flag constitution ports own institutions own navy they are basically an independent nation but cooperating with the SFG they are an inch away to declare independence. All of these people are fake there are no Somali nationalists even sahan galbeed is not serious, he curses daarood yet talks about union. deep inside he wants to destroy them he cannot be taken serious. The Hawiyes want to eat the fertile land for their own fine but they should allow the rest to dissolve this cancer union, the daaroods refused to submit to hassan sheikh the vast majority of the daarood if you read their websites , they are insulting him. day in day out they call them the hawiye preisdent not Somali president. So why are why lying to each other Isaaq are the most honest they say this doesnt work lets all go our separate ways. I was listening to professor samatar the most die hard unionist , he said the other day the walanweyns told me , i cannot run for president of Somalia because i am from the north, lets be honest we are clanish to the bones. original dervish is not a patriot. He does not love Hawiye or Puntland his khatumo is confused as hell , they want Somalia but the hawiyes are telling them to fock off because they support a daarood enttity in Kismayo. War meesha inugu kala kexeeyaa there is nothing that unites us if we could not unite the past 22 years what makes you think we can in the future aynu isi samaxno kala tagno

[original dervish]

magnus......... Says the guy whose people have been blowing their f***ing heads off for 20+ years.

[quark]

War meesha inigu kala kexeeyaa there is nothing that unites us if we could not unite the past 22 years what makes you think we can in the future aynu isi samaxno kala tagno

[original dervish]

Khalid.....honesty and politics is a bad match.

The southerners hold the deeds to the country north/south.
In the next few years they`re gonna make a lot of money signing contracts.
There is no way in hell they will reduce their cut by allowing s/l to secede.
The country is about to be sold at the London conference....including s/l.

[SecretAgent]

Original dervish who are we fooling Somalis cannot share a country they have all deep untold secrets we have private groups online, we wish to annihilate each other. The daarood dont want to submit to Hawiye we have seen it with Jubbbaland daaroods from dhagaxbuur from rivers of Kenya are calling for Jubbaland. The Hawiyes became very sharp and they are united for the first time in 22 years they have their religious groups damul jadiid and islaax and all the other religious groups are united today they have their lobby groups intact hawiye action group. For the first time i see every Hawiye facing Mogadishu and showing real dedication to rebuild Mogadishu and they are leaving the rest behind. No houses will be returned or properties that used to belong to daaroods. No farms of jareer weyne will be returned. The Puntlanders have their Puntland their own country flag constitution ports own institutions own navy they are basically an independent nation but cooperating with the SFG they are an inch away to declare independence. All of these people are fake there are no Somali nationalists even sahan galbeed is not serious, he curses daarood yet talks about union. deep inside he wants to destroy them he cannot be taken serious. The Hawiyes want to eat the fertile land for their own fine but they should allow the rest to dissolve this cancer union, the daaroods refused to submit to hassan sheikh the vast majority of the daarood if you read their websites , they are insulting him. day in day out they call them the hawiye preisdent not Somali president. So why are why lying to each other Isaaq are the most honest they say this doesnt work lets all go our separate ways. I was listening to professor samatar the most die hard unionist , he said the other day the walanweyns told me , i cannot run for president of Somalia because i am from the north, lets be honest we are clanish to the bones. original dervish is not a patriot. He does not love Hawiye or Puntland his khatumo is confused as hell , they want Somalia but the hawiyes are telling them to fock off because they support a daarood enttity in Kismayo. War meesha inugu kala kexeeyaa there is nothing that unites us if we could not unite the past 22 years what makes you think we can in the future aynu isi samaxno kala tagno

good analysis dude

[Zizzz]

Khalid I sincerely feel for the Somaliland cause and wish you nothing but the best. But please stop with your divisive analogy of our current affairs. This is the first time we have a true government in 22 years. Do you honestly expect them to wave their magic wands and make everything perfect? It's a slow process suldaan. Caano geel iska cab naceeybkana iska kala yaree.

[Khalid Ali]

original dervish u read to much into formalities a bunch of african union protected Hawiyes cannot sell anything they cannot even take a shit with out the AU general approving it they are not even allowed to protect their own people they cannot enforce their laws , they can sign as much as they want but as long as they dont have boots on the ground they have little to show for. original i thought u were smarter than that the airspace tax is still controlled by the UN 3 ways Somaliland and Puntland and the SFG. i am sure a modern Somali state will never exist as we knew it the sfg does not control Puntland it does not control Galmudug , if faroole tomorow says he wants independence who is stopping him, the SL issue will be solved this year either the talks will fail , and we derail this longer but the IC will come between us and the hawiyes and we are forced to sign a deal. But not just SL , the rest of Somalia is messy distrust between every tribe. Faroole not going to the london confernce the darood carving their own land in Kismayo. i am asking my self why are we wasting our precious time , we cannot fully develop if we dont let each other go the longer we stay together forced the more we hate each other. Dad israaci laha heshin laha is neceb iska so horjeeda ciidamo shiisheeye isku dalbaday hadana leh qasab baan u wada joogayna wa hala isku madho.

[SecretAgent]

original dervish u read to much into formalities a bunch of african union protected Hawiyes cannot sell anything they cannot even take a shit with out the AU general approving it they are not even allowed to protect their own people they cannot enforce their laws , they can sign as much as they want but as long as they dont have boots on the ground they have little to show for. original i thought u were smarter than that the airspace tax is still controlled by the UN 3 ways Somaliland and Puntland and the SFG. i am sure a modern Somali state will never exist as we knew it the sfg does not control Puntland it does not control Galmudug , if faroole tomorow says he wants independence who is stopping him, the SL issue will be solved this year either the talks will fail , and we derail this longer but the IC will come between us and the hawiyes and we are forced to sign a deal. But not just SL , the rest of Somalia is messy distrust between every tribe. Faroole not going to the london confernce the darood carving their own land in Kismayo. i am asking my self why are we wasting our precious time , we cannot fully develop if we dont let each other go the longer we stay together forced the more we hate each other. Dad israaci laha heshin laha is neceb iska so horjeeda ciidamo shiisheeye isku dalbaday hadana leh qasab baan u wada joogayna wa hala isku madho.

how about 18 regions self rule, wit central govt in Xamar that has Issaq president , MJ PM , eley speaker , top 5 minister positions goes to Hawiyes

[Khalid Ali]

If isaaq said yes , the hawiyes would turn into warlords religious zealots and fight another 22 years for independence and reject isaaq/daarood rule. its infeasible Hawiye lands have been in civil war the past 21 years they have finally peace and stability and they have something that resembles government , do you think they allow isaaq to rule over them or daarood to rule over them.. Some hawiye believe isaaq brought them Godane the terrorist of the century , and daarood got them cabdilahi Yusuf and xabashi , hawiye want to rule Somalia with xamar as the capital nothing wrong with that i can understand that. Only the union cannot exist thats all.

[original dervish]

Khalid.....Somalia has a exclusive economic maritime zone.....this is where most of the oil/gas is.
The European navies have secured Somalia`s continental shelf. All that remains is to sign on the dotted land.

There are no moryaan, secessionists, regional states out at sea.
The Govt ( on behalf of the people), are the legal owners.

This is bigger than the AU...s/l and p/l combined. Everything is in place.
Nobody gives a f**k about s/l or any of the regional states.
Somalia was given a Govt for one reason....and one reason alone....to sign away its offshore riches.
That's why the southerners will never let you go.

[Faranacab]

War hadaanu nahay beelaha dega Waqooyi Galbeed ictiraaf la sugo ma jiree meesha inigu kala kexeeyaa. There is nothing to recognize. Moreover, there is nothing that unites us. If we could not get recognition or unite for the past 22 years, what makes you think we could achieve unity and recognition in the future? Somaali maxammadeey aynu isi samaxno oon kala tagno.

Fixed!

[Rabshoole]

Yeah lets Divide Somalia, for sure Hawiye will not complain !

Ma dhulkaanu ayaad Isaaq iyo hawiye u kala qabisay, families don't share properities.